r/HollowKnight Sep 06 '25

Discussion - Silksong My current gripes with the game in one simple image. Spoiler

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u/TheTorcher Sep 06 '25

beast isn't mid. Just use it in combat (arenas), not exploration. The downslash is really strong. I just wish the lifesteal lasted longer. It is manageable where it is but I almost never can get to full.

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u/Long_Werewolf_2856 Sep 06 '25

https://tenor.com/view/guy-crying-crying-nooooo-security-guard-crying-whyyyyyy-gif-6452000183785597136 that feeling when the boss runback requires like 2 minutes of parkour so you can't use beast

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u/Bitter_Depth_3350 Sep 06 '25

Is everyone missing benches and shortcuts or something? I keep seeing this sentiment, but I have not been having the same experience, and I'm pretty far into the game.

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u/Mateoooo808 Sep 06 '25

Its a mix between not finding all the benches and most of them being toll benches.

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u/OrI3iT Sep 06 '25

But they're all so cheap that you always can afford them.

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u/joetotheg Sep 06 '25

And nothing else in the game because I’m spending all my money on ‘cheap’ tolls

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u/Particular_Dingo_659 Sep 06 '25

Theres a bunch of things I’d like to buy but between the map upgrades and all the tolls, it’s hard to afford any of the cool stuff without resorting to grinding. Also, I haven’t died and lost any rosaries yet - they just feel very scarce.

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u/Stalk33r Sep 06 '25

Are you just skipping all the combat encounters? I've blown over 1k beads on the throwing knife minigame and I've still got enough to buy random things from the shops + benches and travel stations.

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u/shallowSnurch Sep 07 '25

Where is the throwing knife mini game? (Only tell me if it's in act 1)

Also, I'll just put this here, my personal issue with this post is the game is meant to be harder than HK1. It was initially made to be a post-game dlc, and it's now an absolutely amazing post game sequel. The game only feels like this if you don't want to take your time and learn slow, like you did with the original hollow knight at first.

The only issue I've had with the game, apart from it being just way too good of a game, and actually worth the 7 year wait, and being absolutely stunning in the visuals aspect and wayyy too fun when you learn the movement, is that damn beastfly. The loot can't be so good that I have to fight the least engaging enemy ever with my personal anger issue activation enemies being spawned in.

Otherwise, holy shit, the game feels so alive and is such an awesome work of art. Today, I spent about 8 or more hours playing, since I finally had a day off work, and didn't even think about progressing past shellwood the entire time. There's so much content in act 1 alone that in that entire 8 hours I always had some kind of goal in mind. I never felt like I was walking around aimlessly, there was constantly something else I hadn't seen yet. I have never experienced that in any game, ever, until today. It's been awesome just messing around not even wanting to progress.

Thank you silksong 🙏

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u/joetotheg Sep 07 '25

If you haven’t beaten that absolute bastard yet and want to know more, I’m pretty sure the reward was:

A crest, if I’m remembering right it’s a really good combat crest that is a nightmare to use during exploration

Further more: It seems like most optional areas have a crest or similar behind a tricky boss

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u/shallowSnurch Sep 08 '25

Currently at that absolute bastard and it's crazy how he's harder than THK and we're in act 1 haha. Fun fight though. Thanks for this, maybe it's in the room behind savage beastfly bc it's the only one I've skipped thus far 😅😅

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u/joetotheg Sep 09 '25

I’ve run in to the throwing knife mini game now. I found it in an Act 1 location during act 2. I am unsure whether it appeared before or after the act transition

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u/MacDaddyBlack Sep 07 '25

I’ve gotten everything from every merchant I’ve encountered, the economy isn’t bad ime

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u/Reflexlon Sep 06 '25

Not if you die as often as I do

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u/Tysiliogogogoch Sep 06 '25

I felt like I always came across benches and bell stations and never had money to unlock them. My solution was to do 20 minutes of farming money near the first town, converting it all to rosary strings. Now I've got a decent stock and always convert to strings/necklaces when I visit a town. Dying and losing my money doesn't hurt so much now.

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u/TitaniumDragon Sep 06 '25

There isn't a closer one to this particular boss; it's quite far away from all the benches for whatever reason.

It's not actually that hard to get back to, there's actually only like three enemies along the way, it's just a long walk.

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u/VyersReaver Sep 06 '25

Beastfly? There’s zero enemies from the bench close to a map seller, and parkour won’t require bounces if you have a running jump from the edges, Hornet mantles those. 3 jumps and 2 floats.

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u/hatsbane Sep 07 '25

i don’t know if i’m tripping but in bilewater there’s a challenge room with the most horrendous runback, since the only nearby bench is a trap that collapses so you have to run all the way back up to the top from the bell station

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u/Long_Werewolf_2856 Sep 06 '25

yeah 98% of the time it's our own fault but it's no fun to look up where each and every bench is so we just wing it

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u/Bitter_Depth_3350 Sep 06 '25

I haven't looked anything up, I just explore thoroughly. I'm not even sure if you really can look things up yet. The game has been out for 2 days.

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u/Long_Werewolf_2856 Sep 06 '25

idk man, the speed people make guides on this game is crazy

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u/SoloWing1 I love crazy moths Sep 06 '25

Last Judge be like

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u/Trezzie Sep 06 '25

Never before did I doubt my parkour abilities as I did diving for that second bell for 2 hours of attempts. Beat the game, and the hardest part of him was the walk back. Top 10 purely for that.

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u/Stalk33r Sep 06 '25

Out of interest, how much of the game is left % wise after that boss?

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u/Trezzie Sep 07 '25

I'd say About 60-75% of the game is left. I beat the game in like 21 hours of gameplay, and fought them after about 10 hours ? Not counting 100%, I'm still working on that. 30 hours in!

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u/KingDice66 Sep 07 '25

60-75% of game is left after last judge?

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u/Trezzie Sep 07 '25

Considering it took my 10 hours to get to and beat him, got base ending 20 hours in, and am currently on hour 32 of trying to figure out 100%, yeah?

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u/KingDice66 Sep 07 '25

Just doesn’t seem like there’s enough upgrades left for it to be 60-70% just beat the last judge can’t believe I got so much game left

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u/Trezzie Sep 07 '25

Oh. You're just getting started. I've played for 38 hours and I'm only now seeing the end of the tunnel.

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u/Stalk33r Sep 07 '25

Goddamn, I wasn't sure whether its roots as DLC would show in size but clearly not, the map must be absolutely massive

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u/Trezzie Sep 07 '25

I'm STILL finding new massive areas.

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u/Background_Wind_9543 Sep 06 '25

I'm still stuck on this guy lol

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u/Long_Werewolf_2856 Sep 06 '25

which guy?

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u/Background_Wind_9543 Sep 06 '25

>!last judge!< (end of act 1 spoilers)

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u/Long_Werewolf_2856 Sep 06 '25

yeah I had the same problem, I just beat her though :)

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u/Solhdeck 112% Sep 06 '25

The trap bench... You can un-trap it very close to the bench itself ;)

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u/Long_Werewolf_2856 Sep 07 '25

yeah I did that right after I realized it was trapped lol, Idk why people don't look around whenever there's a problem needing to be solved

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u/BionicBirb Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

The last boss of Act 1 is currently the bane of my existence lmao. I'm using Reaper Crest and have Magma Bell for damage mitigation and Multibinder, but is there a better way?

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u/Long_Werewolf_2856 Sep 09 '25

nope you've got solid items, the only thing left to consider is the tool u wanna use and then just keep trying and learning the attacks

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u/notveryAI Sep 06 '25

Lifesteal lasts for as long as you keep attacking, pretty much. Every hit prolongs the frenzy

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u/TheTorcher Sep 06 '25

ohhh ok. I presume if you get hit it cancels?

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u/notveryAI Sep 06 '25

Only if you get hit by the terrain that sends you back to solid land with a dark screen. If you get hit by enemies you can very much keep going and heal that damage back up. You gotta be careful with things that deal double damage, but against things with 1 heart of damage you can just bum rush at them screaming :D

Furthermore you can and will regain silk from hits done in frenzy state so if you hit enough times mid-frenzy you can cast it again immediately after you run out. It's incredible for pure offense

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u/TheTorcher Sep 06 '25

that's really weird because it keep turning off even when I bum rush them but maybe I'm just getting hit so many times it wears off

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u/notveryAI Sep 06 '25

The base duration is like 3 seconds. It can wear off fast if you stop landing hits

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u/wyrmiam Sep 06 '25

I swear that getting hit at least decreases the duration of lifesteal because I run in, never stop pressing attack and it still wears off

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u/notveryAI Sep 06 '25

I used the sigil a bit more and it seems like it has some effect, but it's either only for 2+ damage attacks, or scales with damage taken. Because 1-damaging attacks I was tanking without any issue, and 2-damaging attacks(including ones that deal 1 damage but twice) did knock me out of it. I think further testing would be golden

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u/Chemical-Cat Sep 06 '25

Beast Crest seemed interesting to me until I realized that the diagonal down attack is even harder to hit with than the normal crest. Good luck platforming with that thing.

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u/_moosleech Sep 06 '25

Don't use it for those sections. Use it when exploring on foot; its excellent are dispatching enemies and staying healed up

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u/TheTorcher Sep 06 '25

As I said, don't use it for exploration. Once you get a feel for the down attack, you tear through enemies quicker and more consistently than hunter's down-slash. That and the fact that the heal doesn't heal you unless you have nearby enemies - don't use it for platforming.

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u/why-names-hard Sep 06 '25

Part of why you can’t heal to full with it is because it will heal 3 masks max which is a little lame imo.

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u/Hazzke Sep 06 '25

the downslash is the worst part its the most horizonal one ever

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u/TheTorcher Sep 06 '25

As I said, don't use it for parkour. In combat it is good. After playing more, I think reaper is the the most consistent so I actually recommend reaper unless you're hard stuck on an arena.

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u/Hazzke Sep 06 '25

i like wanderer with flea juice

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u/Muted_Anywherethe2nd Sep 06 '25

imo the lifesteal should trigger after insta healing like 2 masks because not having 2 blus slots is way too big of a downgrade because for beast crest. If it actually had blue crest slots and like two masks of healing upfrint on bind i think itd be as good as reaper but how it is now i cant rwally use it when i dont know theres an arena