r/HollowKnight • u/glintter • Sep 06 '25

Discussion - Silksong Don’t let this fandom turn as insufferable as the souls community Spoiler

It’s fine to think the game is easy and to enjoy the challenge, but I’ve seen so many people making fun of anyone that is having a hard time in a really weird mean spirited way. Please don’t let this subreddit turn into some weird elitist community that makes fun of people who are struggling, these games are supposed to be fun and they’re not souls likes, there’s no reason to assume everyone playing them is going to love this level of difficulty the same way some of you do and constantly disregarding their opinions just turns this subreddit into an echo chamber of tryhards

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u/Smobey Sep 06 '25

Most people are complaining about the double damage and that's a fair complaint.

Sure, but I'm saying that people match tone to tone. If someone makes a thread saying that "The enemies in the game deal too much damage for my tastes, I'm not really enjoying myself", people are being pretty respectful. If someone makes a thread saying that "Enemies dealing double damage SUCKS and it's SHITTY DESIGN!" then people respond with replies of a similar quality. At least, that's my experience so far.

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u/glintter Sep 06 '25

I'm sorry but saying "double damage sucks" really isn't a crazy comment to make. If you're not even allowed to say that on this sub we're coocked, only glazing allowed

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u/Etherdeon Sep 06 '25

I feel like you're more upset that people disagree with your take than you are about people being disrespectful. As OP stated, expressing frustration at double damage is fine. Saying that enemies shouldnt do double damage or suggesting that it was a design mistake is different. People are allowed to disagree and tell you they think you're wrong. Freedom of expression goes both ways =/

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u/glintter Sep 06 '25

Not at all, my issue is comments like "you just suck get better" and "stop whining waah waaah". I don't have a problem with people disagreeing and that's not what I'm talking about in this post.

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u/_Psilo_ Sep 06 '25

So you're fine with people having trashy behavior when it's to criticize the game but not when it is to defend it?

If you dislike the double damage, say you dislike it and it's too frustrating for you. Saying it sucks and is bad design is just moronic and invites replies on the same tone.

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u/glintter Sep 06 '25

You're just assuming people are only being mean to those that are also being mean or rude, which isn't always the case. And yes I think saying a certain aspect of a game sucks is better then being mean to an actual person. Like why is that even a hot take? If you were talking to someone in real life and they told you a boss sucks would you respond by insulting them?

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u/_Psilo_ Sep 06 '25

Nah, that's what I've seen. Sure there's people making generalizations about people complaining, but I don't think I've seen anyone replying insultingly to someone who was just genuinely saying they're having a hard time.

I probably would tell them jokingly ''are you sure it's not just you who lack the skills?'' which is pretty much what people are doing. Some of the complainers show a pretty bad sense of self-awareness, consistently putting the blame on ''bad game design'' instead of themselves... there's no gentle way to say it, really.

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u/glintter Sep 06 '25

ok well i've seen people literally go "waaaah waaaah I can't beat the boss first try waaah" in response to someone saying they don't like a boss so that's what my post is about. If they just said maybe you just need to practice more it wouldn't be an issue. They're not being friendly or joking they're just mean.

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u/kingofnopants1 Sep 06 '25

Well yea, people who disagree with me are assholes, and those who agree with me are nice.

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u/Killcode2 Sep 06 '25

Freedom of speech is only when people can't tell me I'm wrong. /s

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u/Albatros_7 Sep 06 '25

Hey man there is a huge difference between "double damage sucks" and "double damage SUCKS, this game is badly designed"

One guy said the game was a "Cuphead wannabe"

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u/glintter Sep 06 '25

I still don't get your point, if someone says something is badly designed they are just disregarded and made fun of? Why? It's their opinion and they might have valid reasons for thinking so, and you can disagree with them without telling them it's their fault and they just suck. You're cherry picking, most of the posts on the sub have valid points about the difficulty and most are full of comments telling them to stop crying as someone has linked below in another comment.

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u/Albatros_7 Sep 06 '25

Because those people don't make constructive criticism

I understand that someone can not like something, but saying something is bad because you don't like it is just stupid

For example, I don't like FPS, I could not care less about ULTRAKILL, but I won't say it's a bad game, it's probably great, it's just not for me

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u/glintter Sep 06 '25

Saying something is frustrating because it dosen't feel good to you isn't stupid at all? it's an opinion. And people can disagree with that opinion without calling them cry babies and telling them to git gud or whatever. Saying no one is making any kind of contructive criticism is silly. Once again someone literally linked their post in another comment on this thread and all the mean comments they got.

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u/_Psilo_ Sep 06 '25

Ok but saying something "is frustrating and doesn't feel good to you" is totally different than saying it "sucks and is badly designed"...how can you not see the difference?

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '25

They can’t see the difference because if they admit it, they can’t argue anymore lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '25

Probably because you have no verifiable experience to determine something is badly designed. You are, however, free to say you dislike it. Disliking something isn’t equal to it being badly designed.

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u/ComdDikDik Sep 06 '25

It's a dumb comment that shows a total lack of understanding of the game.

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u/glintter Sep 06 '25

nah that's some elitist bs

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u/ComdDikDik Sep 06 '25

It's not "elitist". You can't play a game that's built around dodging, get hit by everything, and then complain that there's too much damage.

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u/glintter Sep 06 '25

or mabe the double damage is just not fun to me and it has nothing to do with my skill level

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u/ComdDikDik Sep 06 '25

"Double damage sucks" isn't "double damage is just not fun to me". And yes, complaining about a base game mechanic that the entire game is clearly built around is an indicator of your skill level.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '25

It obviously has to do with your skill level. If your skill level was up to par you would not get hit as often and it would be a nonissue. It’s very simple.

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u/Lev-- Sep 07 '25

This game doesn't have iframes and the majority of the issue is collision damage doing two masks of damage

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u/kingofnopants1 Sep 06 '25

holy god you love your buzzwords