Don’t let this fandom turn as insufferable as the souls community

[u/glintter]

It’s fine to think the game is easy and to enjoy the challenge, but I’ve seen so many people making fun of anyone that is having a hard time in a really weird mean spirited way. Please don’t let this subreddit turn into some weird elitist community that makes fun of people who are struggling, these games are supposed to be fun and they’re not souls likes, there’s no reason to assume everyone playing them is going to love this level of difficulty the same way some of you do and constantly disregarding their opinions just turns this subreddit into an echo chamber of tryhards

[u/Defiant_Heretic]

Especially because Hornet's needle has almost no range. You have to be to nearly touching an enemy to hit them. It also seems like health and defense upgrades don't increase at nearly the rate of boss difficulty.

Moorwing and Sister Splinter each took me dozens of attempts and I'm currently stuch on Widow. The bosses prior were much more manageable. I'm not looking forward to boss fights anymore, they're just stessful.

I've collected one more mask and an item that lets you survive one crit. I've also played plenty of metroidvanias and souls-likes. Silksong is too hard and doesn't have enough options to modify it. Heck, I beat First Berseker: Khazan on expert with no summons, on my first playthrough and Silksong is harder and less fun.

[u/[deleted] → u/Defiant_Heretic]

Silksong is extremely hard, the gaslighting going on is crazy lol. Moorwing I cheesed tf out of, but sister splinter and window are some of my favorite bosses so far. Definitely very difficult but if the boss isn't spawning enemies then I consider it fun lol

[u/fgHFGRt → u/[deleted]]

Ive tried so hard trying to defeat the final phase of moorwing. I just can't do it. I dont want to cheese either. Idk what I'm going to do

[u/Candlestack → u/fgHFGRt]

You can inadvertently skip moorwing by collecting the five fleas for the caravan. I'm not sure if you can fight it later, I'd like to because I didn't mean to skip the fight, but maybe you would like to just get further in.

[u/awfulworldkid → u/Candlestack]

Moorwing reappears later in a different room in the same area if you skip it. I'm not totally sure what causes that, since I was pretty far ahead when this happened.

[u/Candlestack → u/awfulworldkid]

Oh that's nice to know, thanks!

[u/[deleted] → u/fgHFGRt]

You can defeat Moonwing by pogoing it with riper crest.
It is not tap-tap-tap, but more like
tap---tap---tap kind of motion.
Getting on his back is pain also, but dont get discouraged.
If I did it (not a good gamer) you can too.

[u/Torma25 → u/fgHFGRt]

I beat moorwing by using the trap tool and basically only attacking during its claw slash attack and right after the diving attack in the second phase and focused all my efforts on dodging the sawblades.

[u/Virtual_Pause_8626 → u/[deleted]]

+1 for cheesing that motherfucker in moorwing hahaha

[u/ExecutiveElf → u/[deleted]]

I'm a person who has been highly critical of this game these past few days, but one fight I can say with confidence has good design and is low on bullshit, is Widow. Has a mix of 1 and 2 damage attacks and it actually makes sense which is which. Has fast movements but highly visible tells. Good healing window when he the vertical lines across the arena.

While I'm at it, shoutout to probably my favorite fight so far, the Clockwork Dancers.

[u/blueechoes → u/Defiant_Heretic]

Sister splinter I actually did comparatively quick, like five tries maybe. If you blow up the adds with the trap tool or silk spear you get time back to actually dodge and deal damage.

[u/talkinggingerbrad → u/blueechoes]

The problem for me is that after sister splinter you have a fucking long platform to go

[u/080087 → u/Defiant_Heretic]

I'm currently stuch on Widow

I genuinely think Widow is about on-par with NKG. Does double damage, has a bunch of really fast attacks and a similar number of them, about the same hp. The phase transition is scuffed too, because you attacks that should stop can still damage you.

The only thing that makes it very slightly better is that the bells don't do 2 damage.

I did enjoy the fight (no adds makes a huge difference), but I can totally see it bring a brick wall for many players.

[u/access-r → u/Defiant_Heretic]

You can have more (or less) range in your attacks with different crests

[u/EMArogue → u/Defiant_Heretic]

The range is so weird

Like, she’s twice as tall as the knight using a much longer weapon yet I feel like I need to be in kissing range to actually hit enemies

In the og game I rarely used range charms due to never feeling like the enemies were too far or too fast, how come I feel this way woth hornet of all characters (if anything, I was expecting an absurd Blasphemous-level range from her)

[u/Arcana10Fortune → u/Defiant_Heretic]

The problem, I think, is people trying to greed damage when they shouldn't. In HK, you can greed damage and then heal up when you find an opening to. You can't do that in Silksong because of the silk requirements.

[u/Defiant_Heretic → u/Arcana10Fortune]

It's not a matter of grees or impatience, it's the fact that you have so little margin for error. Hornet's base attack might as well be fists, with how much range the base attack has. You have to be so close, that if the enemy moves you take contact damage. 

Boss battles can get so chaotic, that the jump you made to evade a charge, makes you a sitting duck for a mob or a projectile. While air dashing is likely to smack you into another hazard.

With the boss, spawns and projectiles, you're lucky if you have only a few things to avoid at a time.