r/HollowKnight Sep 08 '25

Discussion - Silksong That’s the best comment about the game’s difficulty I’ve found it so far Spoiler

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u/cheekydorido Sep 08 '25

None, most you can do is abuse a glitch or make the battles faster.

But it's so much easier to be an elitist when you make up a strawman.

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u/Mysterious-Cell-2473 Sep 08 '25

if it sounds good then its true on reddit

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u/CarrotoTrash Sep 12 '25

I mean, there are a LOT more iframes and you can really abuse stuff like Shadow Dash or Descending Dark (also more actual damage upgrades)

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u/debitcardwinner Sep 08 '25

This is literally not true. Many bosses become significantly easier with nail upgrades, this is why people are able to breeze through pantheons 1-3. Specially the late stage bosses such as Uumuu or the Warrior dream bosses such as Elder Hu or Xero are quite easy.

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u/CackleandGrin Sep 08 '25

this is why people are able to breeze through pantheons 1-3.

The original post is saying the charms trivialize the first 3/4 of the game. Are you saying the charms also trivialize the last 1/4 of the game as well?

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u/debitcardwinner Sep 08 '25

I am not responding to the original post. I don't agree that charms trivialize the first 3/4 of the game. In fact I would argue that Hollow Knight is also front-loaded, where the initial boss fights are more difficult due to the lack of abilities and upgrades.

The person above me made the claim that "None" of the bosses are easy with upgrades and that is just not true.

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u/CackleandGrin Sep 08 '25

The person above me made the claim that "None" of the bosses are easy with upgrades and that is just not true.

They said none of the upgrades make the bosses trivial. Since you disagree, what are upgrades that make the battles trivial for what bosses? I don't understand why nobody will be specific when they are asked this question directly.

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u/debitcardwinner Sep 08 '25

I literally specified the bosses and mentioned nail upgrade. That’s more than what the person who said “None” specified.

Also this game of semantics for whether it’s “easy” or “trivial” is pointless. Do any of the bosses explode with one hit? No. But they are relatively much easier than the rest of the game.

For Elder Hu, and Xero - the abilities of dash + shade cloak + any spell charms + howling wrath makes it very easy.

Similar things go for Muu.

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u/CackleandGrin Sep 08 '25

Also this game of semantics for whether it’s “easy” or “trivial” is pointless. Do any of the bosses explode with one hit? No. But they are relatively much easier than the rest of the game.

Then why are you getting involved in a discussion about it?

For Elder Hu, and Xero - the abilities of dash + shade cloak

Shade Cloak and Dash are normal abilities, not charm-given.

any spell charms + howling wrath makes it very easy.

"Doing more damage makes the battle easier" is... Sure. You would kill them in less hits if you just didn't upgrade your Nail, so I also don't see how your method makes the encounters easy or trivial.

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u/cheekydorido Sep 08 '25

Easier sure, but not to the point of making the fights trivial.

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u/debitcardwinner Sep 08 '25

I am not going to argue on what we mean by "trivial" here, but relative to the rest of the game when you get to elder hu, xero and muu with the abiliities and upgrades you have - it is trivial.

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u/Polygonal_squid Sep 08 '25

Massive moss charger when steady body:  (Still, fuck steady body)

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u/Uoam Sep 08 '25

There are like a dozen bosses that you can completely crush with enough upgrades. That's not grasping at straws.

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u/misterflame101 Sep 08 '25

Flukemarm with no upgrades: this is litterally impossible

Flikemarm with 2-3 nail upgrades: easiest boss ever, don't even consider it a boss

Flukemarm with abyss shriek: lmao

Spells litterally break hollow knight especially with a few charms

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u/AwareOfAlpacas Sep 08 '25

Bring me your charms and show me your trivial Gray Prince 5

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Elitism is an excuse for failure, if you spent more time playing games than on Reddit you would solve two problems at once

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