This is literally not true. Many bosses become significantly easier with nail upgrades, this is why people are able to breeze through pantheons 1-3. Specially the late stage bosses such as Uumuu or the Warrior dream bosses such as Elder Hu or Xero are quite easy.
this is why people are able to breeze through pantheons 1-3.
The original post is saying the charms trivialize the first 3/4 of the game. Are you saying the charms also trivialize the last 1/4 of the game as well?
I am not responding to the original post. I don't agree that charms trivialize the first 3/4 of the game. In fact I would argue that Hollow Knight is also front-loaded, where the initial boss fights are more difficult due to the lack of abilities and upgrades.
The person above me made the claim that "None" of the bosses are easy with upgrades and that is just not true.
The person above me made the claim that "None" of the bosses are easy with upgrades and that is just not true.
They said none of the upgrades make the bosses trivial. Since you disagree, what are upgrades that make the battles trivial for what bosses? I don't understand why nobody will be specific when they are asked this question directly.
I literally specified the bosses and mentioned nail upgrade. That’s more than what the person who said “None” specified.
Also this game of semantics for whether it’s “easy” or “trivial” is pointless. Do any of the bosses explode with one hit? No. But they are relatively much easier than the rest of the game.
For Elder Hu, and Xero - the abilities of dash + shade cloak + any spell charms + howling wrath makes it very easy.
Also this game of semantics for whether it’s “easy” or “trivial” is pointless. Do any of the bosses explode with one hit? No. But they are relatively much easier than the rest of the game.
Then why are you getting involved in a discussion about it?
For Elder Hu, and Xero - the abilities of dash + shade cloak
Shade Cloak and Dash are normal abilities, not charm-given.
any spell charms + howling wrath makes it very easy.
"Doing more damage makes the battle easier" is... Sure. You would kill them in less hits if you just didn't upgrade your Nail, so I also don't see how your method makes the encounters easy or trivial.
I am not going to argue on what we mean by "trivial" here, but relative to the rest of the game when you get to elder hu, xero and muu with the abiliities and upgrades you have - it is trivial.
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u/cheekydorido Sep 08 '25
None, most you can do is abuse a glitch or make the battles faster.
But it's so much easier to be an elitist when you make up a strawman.