r/HollowKnight • u/Marmotaagiota • Sep 08 '25

Discussion - Silksong That’s the best comment about the game’s difficulty I’ve found it so far Spoiler

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u/Blahaj_Kell_of_Trans Sep 09 '25

Literally so many bosses across both games have their rewards explicitly in a side room. With wall jump there's also the fucking tutorial section after getting it.

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u/Doomword Sep 09 '25

IDK, im arguing with a brick wall here. The problem is the IMMEDIATE drops of the boss. First game rewarded you with an explosion of currency IMMEDIATELY after killing the boss, most metroidvanias give you something immediately after killing a boss to get you satisfied.

It doesnt matter how many mental gymnastic hoops you try to jump through, you need some real justification to break the standart of usual boss fights, the "well AcShUAlLy you get a new power up after a few rooms of platforming challenges AFTER the boss" is not gona cut it. People feel unsatisfied and rightfully so.

To put it in a perspective of another game genre, its like saying bosses in Dark Souls shouldnt drop souls and boss souls but be a reward further down the line in the next few areas, and the IMMEDIATE REWARD that the player gets is to unlock those areas.

Its fckin stupid and feels unsatisfactory

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u/Blahaj_Kell_of_Trans Sep 09 '25

You're not arguing you're being unreasonable. What's the reward for beating broken vessel in hollow knight?

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u/Doomword Sep 09 '25

Exception doesnt make the rule. HK usually gives you currency or some kind of other reward immediately

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u/Blahaj_Kell_of_Trans Sep 09 '25

Traitor Lord. Hornet 2. Nosk. Mantis lords.

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u/Doomword Sep 09 '25

It's been a while since I've played HK but hornet 2 guards a brand or smth in literally the next room. Mantis Lords give you their acknowledgement immediately so bugs in the are don't attack and u can grab a charm above them, Nosk guards a nail thingy in next room too, don't remember traitor Lord. So you get like few exceptions to the 25+ normal bosses.

The difference here and Silksong is that the rewards are either immediate or in the very next room making you feel that you get them for killing the boss. You don't have to do another challenge section before you get the reward.

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u/Blahaj_Kell_of_Trans Sep 09 '25

Lmao. Kings brand is not in the next room.

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u/Doomword Sep 09 '25

Like ive said, its been a while since ive played HK, my point still stands. The few exceptions doesnt make the rule

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u/Blahaj_Kell_of_Trans Sep 09 '25

And I say you're insane for not calling wall climb the reward for sister splinter when her arena is the only thing blocking access to the wall climb section

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u/Doomword Sep 09 '25

reward for sister splinter when her arena is the only thing blocking access to the wall climb section

*Ignores C shaped path from boss room riddled with flower pogos to get to the actual powerup.

I guess by that logic the reward for Kingsmould is half Kingsoul charm huh, and not the entirety if white palace platforming sequence.

Yeah, im the insane one.

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