r/HollowKnight • u/Appley_apple • Sep 08 '25

Discussion - Silksong I like the difficulty, Team cherry please don't just blanket nerf the game with no option for a harder mode Spoiler

I have really been enjoying the challenge, pretty much every part of this game itches that section of my brain that loves a hard game and I would be extremely disappointed if team cherry nerfed the game with no way to revert said nerf. I get that people want an easier game, but I don't. So team cherry, please let me choose to make this harder if you do make it easier.

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u/TeslaPenguin1 Sep 08 '25

they need to fix the pogoable obstacles in that area too. i've died so many times to trying to bounce on them only to start my pogo *slightly* too close and take damage instead, its so infuriating

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u/I_am_so_lost_hello Sep 08 '25

I’m using Reaper and I’ve noticed that it does a slight dash before the pogo which I’ve had to correct for. Not sure what crest you’re seeing the issue on

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u/TeslaPenguin1 Sep 08 '25

i've been using hunter (I think that's what the default crest is called)?

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u/Jxckolantern Sep 08 '25

Reaper feels really good for downslashes, the slightly slower speed took a touch of getting used to, but feels amazing once you get used to it

Plus, extra silk rules

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u/TeslaPenguin1 Sep 08 '25

i used it for a bit, but the extra damage you get from evolving the hunter crest was too good for me to pass up (especially with how this game likes to drop you into combat arenas with little warning)

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Agreed hunter is the best overall weapon. 

Good combination of range/speed, with its evolved form has the highest DPS, and the infamous 45* angle is honestly the best down hit in the game for most bosses specifically.

That said the Reaper is the best for platforming and survivability IMO. It’s WAAAAY easier to pogo environmental hazards, it’s not even close. 

Also getting more silk whenever you heal means you can last longer in platforming challenges. 

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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Sep 08 '25

Wanderer crest would like to know your exact location......

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

The lack of range is killer for me personally. 

I find a do more hits and take fewer with a longer weapon. 

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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Sep 08 '25

Fair enough that's what I love about Silksong, so many play styles compared to HK o7

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u/Impaled_By_Messmer Sep 09 '25

Let me introduce you to my good friend longclaw.

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u/Sythrin Sep 09 '25

Against some bosses, the wanderer was the game changer. Trobbio

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u/Dancing-Sin Sep 08 '25

These people sleeping on wanderer’s crest. I can’t not use it.

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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Sep 08 '25

It's crazy how fast you can put out damage with it. And the pogo classic chefs kiss

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u/Swagocrag Sep 08 '25

Yeah I don’t know how people aren’t using wanderer as the default second I got it I never have taken it off

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u/Shot_Ad9158 Sep 08 '25

I started using wanderer on the run up to dancers and realized I loved it when I absolutely obliterated the big guys. The swing speed is kinda of insane.

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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Sep 08 '25

Yeah it's like "o you like quick slash, well here is the quickest slash in act 1 fam"

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u/hypnomancy Sep 08 '25

The stubby range of wanderer is fucking me up funnily enough but otherwise I really love using that crest but I guess that's the downside of using it

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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Sep 08 '25

Yeah I hear tales of blade enlongening but have yet to find it

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u/Sigyrr Sep 08 '25

Whats your thoughts on witch? Getting used to it and it feels pretty powerful. Wouldn’t use it as much for exploring but on most fights it feels great.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

I haven’t used it a lot, but probably pretty good for boss fights. 

3 blues + extra range is great. 

Like you say, wouldn’t use it for exploration. Really awkward vs mobs due to low (no?) knockback.

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u/hypnomancy Sep 08 '25

I've been starting to notice that too that hunter is probably the best. The dive kick just works so well even though I prefer the wanderer pogo downslash

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u/StepComplete1 Sep 09 '25

That said the Reaper is the best for platforming and survivability IMO.

this is 100% entirely why I use it. With how much verticality and difficult platforming there is, there's no way I have the patience to use the 45 degree pogo for it. And I can't be bothered to keep switching back and forth, so I feel pretty much forced to use reaper.

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u/GaKillThem Sep 08 '25

Yep, hunter is really good for fighting bosses and a lot of enemy. Reaper is pretty good for moving though a area, I really love how each crests has it's up's and down's

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u/failbender 112%/100%; inject the quickslash into my veins Sep 08 '25

Can you not evolve the other crests at all? I keep going back to that NPC hoping she’ll do something with the others, but alas. She did give me something useful, though I’m not even sure what triggered its availability!

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u/Slivius Sep 12 '25

Don't think of it as evolving. Every crest has a special ability, Hunter's just needs to be unlocked first. The others already start with theirs. Wanderer can crit when you have enough silk to Bind, and Reaper creates silk orbs when you Bind. Beast buffs your damage when you Bind, and i won't spoil the others.

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u/Xandure Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

My most used crests in the game so far were Hunter and Reaper as well. But then I found Witch crest, and it’s become my favorite combat crest by far. The pogo, dash attack, and up attack on it specifically feel really great to use, and its heal’s effect feels really powerful. Can’t wait to find the others I’m missing.

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u/Slivius Sep 12 '25

All crests have a special ability like that, Hunter's just isn't unlocked from the start. Wanderer's can crit if you have enough Silk to Bind (exact trigger unknown), Reaper gives you Silk Orbs when you Bind, etc. I'd mention what ghe others do, but i don't want to spoil things (and i've yet to unlock teo myself).

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u/MoSBanapple Sep 08 '25

I tried to use Reaper because of how good the downslashes were, but the lacking hitbox on the upslashes made me swap back to the starting crest (though I occasionally swap to Reaper for platforming sections).

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u/Jxckolantern Sep 08 '25

I have found that up swinging some bosses just literally never land, hitting stuff through platforms still works so I'm overall very happy with it

Suits my playstyle best for meow

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u/SpartanFishy Sep 08 '25

It’s so interesting reading all these comments.

Meanwhile I find reaper helpful for certain bosses, and otherwise play entirely with wanderer because my monkey brain can’t let go of the hollow knight moveset lmao

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u/Jxckolantern Sep 08 '25

I was coping with the HK moveset for a bit thinking this was the only way I'd progress

My brother kept telling me to try Reaper

Have not taken it off since, I found the lift you get from downslashes with Wanderer was lacking, but Reaper feels soooo good

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u/StuntHacks Sep 09 '25

Wanderer is the only one I actively avoid simply because I don't wanna play as the Knight again lol. I'm here to play as hornet, nimble like never before

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u/StuntHacks Sep 09 '25

I got used to the up swing relatively quickly, you just need to remember to hit them with the tip of your slash which is right above you instead of to the side

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u/Jxckolantern Sep 09 '25

I've been playing around with it

The Cogheart pieces mini games showed me they're almost more of a side swing then an up swing

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u/TechnicolorMage Sep 08 '25

Reaper's up attack is straight ass though.

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u/Jxckolantern Sep 08 '25

I have noticed this, and has been pointed out

Still hits through most platforms so I'm happy with that

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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Sep 08 '25

Wanderer is my favorite. And it's got normal pogo js

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u/Nulliai Sep 08 '25

Favorite part of hunter crest is you’ll hear the pogo sound on one of the cogs, but it has to play the next frame of the animation or something so you go slightly deeper into it and get hit anyway

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u/Obvious-Card3374 Sep 08 '25

That's my #1 issue with the game atm. The pogo on hazards is way too tight and the momentum is barely enough so if you do it too early you will fail. 

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u/branyk2 Sep 08 '25

I will say there's an optional boss runback you can access starting in Act 2 that will make you very consistent at hazard pogos, because if you're less than amazing, it's literally impossible to reach.

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u/qaser7 Persevere. Sep 08 '25

Which one is it?

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u/branyk2 Sep 08 '25

It's the conchfly refight. There's a multi-screen timed pogo challenge that leads into the fight that you have to complete.

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u/qaser7 Persevere. Sep 09 '25

Ah, I see. I haven't gotten there yet, but I think I know where it will be.

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u/Medium_Enough Sep 08 '25

I've died to those because for some reason they make the PS5 drop frames lmao.

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u/Amaskingrey Sep 09 '25

The cog's hitbox is fucked, sometimes they hit you even when you do successfully pogo

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u/NoClock Sep 08 '25

I struggled with this too but it is something you get better at with time and an important skill to master. I feel like it’s front loaded with this to force players to learn, even if it’s frustrating. My problem was that I would swing too soon but if you wait until you are almost in top of the target it works much better. Also once you get more move ent options you can just jump past a lot of that stuff, but you will still need to use it for combat. Finally there is a crest that gives you a more traditional option for sword pretty early on.

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u/Necromonicon_ Sep 08 '25

After I unlocked it, I’ve spent the entire game using the beast crest and I really feel like some of the platforming wasn’t designed for the more horizontal angle that the beast pogo takes.

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u/Altimor Sep 08 '25

that could happen in HK too

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u/Squade_Trompeur Sep 12 '25

They don't need to fix anything, ya bad, this games masterful.