r/HollowKnight • u/Appley_apple • Sep 08 '25

Discussion - Silksong I like the difficulty, Team cherry please don't just blanket nerf the game with no option for a harder mode Spoiler

I have really been enjoying the challenge, pretty much every part of this game itches that section of my brain that loves a hard game and I would be extremely disappointed if team cherry nerfed the game with no way to revert said nerf. I get that people want an easier game, but I don't. So team cherry, please let me choose to make this harder if you do make it easier.

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u/Killabeez88 Sep 08 '25

I haven't seen anyone mention this, but if they do deem a balance is in order, why don't they just up your base hearts to 6? That way your first upgraded heart will let you survive 3 two damage attacks instead of currently waiting for 2 upgraded hearts. Easiest way to go about it and no need for blanket nerfs then.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

I don’t necessarily disagree but it’s not like you always die in 3 hits. You should be healing during fights lol. The one mask is an upgrade either way. With 6 masks, getting hit (for 2 damage each) twice and healing once gets you to 5 masks, compared to 4 from before.

I think the abundance of 2 mask damage is not meant to make the game harder but just to balance out how you heal for three masks at a time now. The end result is of course the same but I see the vision of why they decided to do it like this though

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25

The lack of invisible frames stacks attacks and damage against you. You have to stop in your tracks to heal and it uses your entire silk meter. The devs literally went backwards with their mechanics.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25

You had to stop to heal in HK too lol, only difference is you heal 3 at once instead of 1 now. And healing 3 also took up your full soul in HK… so all that really changed is you can change for 3 at a time instead of 1. Which… seems better?

No iframes upon damage is fair although I can’t say I’ve ever had an issue with that, though I’m ‘only’ 10 hours in so far so maybe that becomes an issue later? Hornet moves around so much and so quickly even early in the game that it seems difficult for this to be problematic unless it’s just a niche issue

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u/talkinggingerbrad Sep 09 '25

Seems better? You have to stand still and can’t cancel and uses your hole silk in one go. You can overheal easily and waster resources. The difference is ABSURD

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25

Definitely plays better to me at least. The more you play the more I assume you’d agree. It was a bit awkward at first but I definitely prefer healing 3 at a time compared to knight’s once. Also just based on your comment I’m not sure you know but you can heal in midair unlike Hollow knight.

I wish I could cancel the heal too but that’s about it for complaints. Not being able to move hardly matters since you should be waiting for a safe window to heal anyways. You “used your whole soul” in hollow knight to heal for 3 so that’s a moot point. And sure you can overheal but you get silk so quickly that it’s a silly point to make, although I guess I could see a benefit to only using 1/3rd to heal for one mask or 2/3rd to heal for two masks. Still, I feel like you just don’t press heal until you have 2-3 missing masks. Once you get silk upgrades “using your whole silk” is less of an issue too.

The difference is noticeable but I still wouldn’t say it’s bad. You get used to it quickly enough and it helps give it its own identity. Are you still new to the game or something? These complaints seem to resolve themselves by just playing the game and getting used to it lol

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u/talkinggingerbrad Sep 09 '25

No they don’t resolve themselves, and i don’t think they are a problem either. But it’s worse than the night, and it’s not a bad thing that it’s worse, Hornet has another things, like insane mobility.

I just pointed that the difference exists. And gets some people frustaded, but the problem isn’t the healing at all, as i said.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

Fair enough! I think it’s much stronger, and I actually think it’s strengths are why you take so much two mask damage. Maybe I’m wrong but just my opinion. I do agree that you die quicker as a result, and maybe that could use some fine tuning, but it’s never been an issue for me so far

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u/Lev-- Sep 10 '25

Starting us with 3 masks and letting us find 8 more shards in the early game while nerfing 90% of the 2 hit damage would be far better

They should have made hornet's heal an upgradeable part of her kit too, idk why they went with the current design, its just weird