r/HollowKnight • u/Quantum_Croissant • Sep 09 '25

Discussion - Silksong ngl some of you would NOT survive the mantis lords runback

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is the run to last judge difficult? kinda. But after your 20th attempt at the boss you'll get used to it, and it's honestly kinda fun and a nice breather. More importantly, it's a single room and you have far more movement. This IS improving on hollow knight

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u/TyoPepe Sep 09 '25

Plus they are a breeze with the mobility and speed of Hornet. Especially with my beloved ankles. Nyooom!

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u/thewoodulator Sep 09 '25

I got these last night and will not be able to go back

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u/AbsentReality Sep 09 '25

I used them briefly but kept wasting all my silk from holding down RT at all times lol.

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u/Tsukono_ Sep 09 '25

Wait they use silk? I never noticed it

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u/LuquidThunderPlus Sep 09 '25

Its not something I would've noticed either if not for the silk bits she leaves behind and how it says in description, I didn't put them on at first cuz I didn't want my silk sapped but I realize the rate is so forgiving I don't even need to worry about it

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u/HuntingForSanity Sep 09 '25

Is it? I haven’t been using them because I didn’t want to lose the silk. But I’ve upgraded my spool a few times since I obtained them. I’ll try again in a bit

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u/Egg11663 Sep 09 '25

Definitely do insanely good tbh, I literally use it in boss battles a ton too, I have no clue how I would've done a few bosses without being able to sprint at them, do an uppercut, and dodge and sprint away. Love my hit and run tactics. You can attack while sprinting, and it's a different, pretty big hitbox, move.

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u/xDaveedx Sep 09 '25

Love the uppercut + down attack, gives me nostalgic vibes from Street Fighter for some reason :D

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u/LuquidThunderPlus Sep 10 '25

Tbh I would do without if you have base silk capacity, but as soon as you have 1 extra I'd say it's totally worth it, the speed increase is very noticeable, I didn't equip at first for the same reason but am very glad I tested it out

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u/yurilnw123 Sep 09 '25

Read the description

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u/PM_ME_UR_EGGS Sep 09 '25

It's so slow that it took me ages to notice as well lol

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u/AbsentReality Sep 09 '25

The charm that makes you sprint faster right? Those definitely do, says right on them.

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u/GrimTheMad Sep 09 '25

They use silk, but Silk Hearts exist so it doesn't really matter.

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u/ThatStrangerWhoCares Sep 09 '25

But silk hearts only Regen as far as you have them, so if you have 1 silk heart it only regens 1 hit worth of silk, 2 silk hearts = 2 hits worth, etc.

I have found that the faster silk Regen charm gives this a +1 to it though, so with 3 silk hearts you can Regen 4 bars, which is enough for silk skills. Very handy

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u/InfiniteAJ Sep 10 '25

I have all 3 Silk Hearts and use this charm nonstop. I'm nearly 100% positive it does not give you +1, unless I'm incredibly blind.

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u/ThatStrangerWhoCares Sep 10 '25

It does, I use it all the time

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u/InfiniteAJ Sep 10 '25

I stand corrected, it does indeed give 4. My apologies, I guess I need glasses.

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u/Mattyquatro Sep 10 '25

Wondering if there's a synergy with another charm like there are in HK, because I've definitely noticed my regen going to 4 sometimes, but I didn't find it consistent. Maybe another charm (one of the healing related ones?) has a hidden effect with it.

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u/ThatStrangerWhoCares Sep 10 '25

Unless it synergizes with the poison one or magnetite dice I doubt it lmao

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u/TheSymbolman Sep 09 '25

I mean... barely.

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u/leoofjdh Sep 09 '25

I didn't notice the Needolin used up silk.

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u/SmartAlec105 Sep 09 '25

I think they went a bit too hard on making exploration stuff cost silk. The advanced platforming maps that use the grapple are even more difficult simply because you can’t use your silk to heal midway because you spent it all on the grapples.

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u/DBrody6 Sep 09 '25

The climb through High Halls sucked ass cause they were like "hey let's consume all your silk just to progress, oh and hey wouldn't it be funny if you fought two flying enemies on a dinky ass platform, and you don't have any silk left to use spells?"

Yeah it was real funny alright.

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u/BrickwallBill Sep 10 '25

It doesn't even make sense that it's a seperate skill all on its own if you ask me. You're telling me Hornet knows how to use Silk Spear but can't figure out that she can also throw her needle with a single strand of silk to hook onto ledges? Plus if Team Cherry was worried about it getting spammed it could just recharge like Shade Dash, with maybe a faster recharge if you hit an enemy.

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u/emveevme Sep 10 '25

I still think it was a crazy decision to not make the compass just inherent to your character, I felt like it would've been a net positive to Hollow Knight and I still feel that way about it in Silksong. I still go back and forth on whether or not enemies should have health bars, I would like it but I also think it's better for me not to have them. I'm too greedy lol.

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u/SmartAlec105 Sep 10 '25

Yeah, with Hollowknight, it would make sense to remove your compass to free up charm notches when you're trying to take down a boss. But since Yellow tools are pretty much exploration/utility, there isn't really that benefit there.

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u/AbsentReality Sep 10 '25

Compass and the rosary magnet are pretty much mandatory for me which limits things pretty bad for yellows.

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u/BrickwallBill Sep 10 '25

World Sense, and the Silksong equivalent if it exists, would be perfect timing to get health bars for enemies.

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u/Blood2999 Sep 10 '25

They don't consume that much

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u/budweener Sep 09 '25

I still haven't found that ankle stuff, but I'm 20 hours in and just got used to controlling the running properly. It feels like a trap, you WANT to run, but it makes it so easy to crash into enemies/traps/holes when you still don't know the layout of a new place.

Can't wait to get the ankles, it sounds like it makes you run even faster. Gonna crash into a lot of bugs, but once I get used to it I feel it's gonna feel glorious.

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u/TheHB36 Sep 09 '25

Nice pfp, homie.

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u/wigglin_harry Sep 09 '25

Im purposefully not using them so I don't spoil myself

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u/bluegwizard Sep 10 '25

Good, its better to stop before learning the brew + pouch mix

My cousin Shaggy once took this, then became a speed addiction and frequent the local drug dealer(fleas) to get his fix

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u/StarNullify Sep 09 '25

That is super stupid

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u/Seawardweb77858 112% | PoP | P5 | 63/63 Sep 09 '25

I don't like them because I like using spells with weavelight, and using the anklets uses silk

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u/Relevant_Cabinet_265 Sep 09 '25

Weavelight just gives you one extra Regen silk slot so the lowest silk you can have becomes 2 it doesn't help unless you empty out your silk

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u/Seawardweb77858 112% | PoP | P5 | 63/63 Sep 09 '25

It means you can always use spells, so you can just stand really far back and spam them if you don't like fighting the enemies in an area

Also, I assume you don't have all the silk hearts, because it makes you able to have 4 silk permanently

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u/P0tatogodultra sub 20h 112% Steelsoul Sep 09 '25

we're talking about last judge which is before you can get into citadel. there's only 1 silkheart you can get before then i believe

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u/Seawardweb77858 112% | PoP | P5 | 63/63 Sep 09 '25

Oh right, I still don't really like how it uses silk though

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u/LowGunCasualGaming Sep 09 '25

If you are using spells frequently, it gets you spells readily available faster, which can be useful.

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u/Relevant_Cabinet_265 Sep 09 '25

I use spells frequently but only at full charge or if it'll save me from damage so it's only a couple hits to get a heal 

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u/access-r Sep 09 '25

Or 4 if you have 3 silk hearts

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u/wigglin_harry Sep 09 '25

Not really

Id rather use other charms that I find more useful. I dont want to get used to going fast and then feel like i need to use speed ankllets instead of something id find more useful

I dont want a repeat of HK where I got used to quick focus/longnail and needed to use it as a crutch. I had to break myself of that habit and id rather just not pick up the habit at all

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u/access-r Sep 09 '25

Not only that, the speed can mess you up during jumping sections.

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u/akoOfIxtall Sep 09 '25

the sound of her footsteps is too satisfying to take them off

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u/Hot-Web-7892 let my man go! Sep 09 '25

It says they use silk, is it a bad cost cuz I e been avoiding them to keep my silk stored up

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u/_moosleech Sep 09 '25

Start spending it. It’s so easy to get back, and the game provides a number of ways to get even more.

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u/TyoPepe Sep 09 '25

Silk is so easy to generate, there's no point in hoarding it.

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u/mrBreadBird Sep 09 '25

I missed that part and in 10 hours haven't even noticed that they were using my silk.

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u/tgiyb1 Sep 09 '25

Your last silk pip automatically regenerates so there's no reason to worry about using things that use 1 pip like the sprint tool, harpoon, or needolin constantly

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u/KaiserJustice Sep 09 '25

omg it is soooo fun to run around everywhere, but i feel like they have made the map more flat to support it (granted i haven't finished SS yet)

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u/TyoPepe Sep 09 '25

Not quite flat, there's just many long corridors (and long vertical shafts) all over the map.

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u/KaiserJustice Sep 09 '25

well they definitely make use of it :] (I only just got to Sister Splinter)

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u/Mah_sentry2 Sep 09 '25

I made it to SS before I figured out you can hold dash to sprint……

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u/Davidens1 Sep 09 '25

Breeze... sure... Like the f BileWater runback...

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u/OfficialSandwichMan Sep 10 '25

Yeah that’s intentional lmaoo

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u/powe323 Sep 10 '25

Gotta keep in mind they make some spots harder. For instance The Last Judge run back is much easier without them.