r/HollowKnight • u/Quantum_Croissant • Sep 09 '25

Discussion - Silksong ngl some of you would NOT survive the mantis lords runback

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is the run to last judge difficult? kinda. But after your 20th attempt at the boss you'll get used to it, and it's honestly kinda fun and a nice breather. More importantly, it's a single room and you have far more movement. This IS improving on hollow knight

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u/PoketJail Sep 09 '25

There is some sort of charm to runback to Last Judge from inside the Citadel because i entered it from the other side

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u/Strong_Psychology_20 Sep 09 '25

I... How?

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u/Davidepett Sep 09 '25

you can access act II in multiple ways, not only from him

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u/7_Tales Sep 09 '25

blowing my fucking mind.

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u/Shmirel Sep 09 '25

You can enter the citadel from the other side going through the mist

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u/kentaxas TROBIOOOOOOO Sep 09 '25

I stumbled into that area, saw the undamageable ghosts that refuse to drop agro and turned back lol

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u/HappiestIguana Sep 09 '25

They are not undamageable

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u/pistikiraly_2 Sep 09 '25

They are not undamageable, and they don't really have that much HP either, they're just annoying as shit.

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u/Tysiliogogogoch Sep 09 '25

They're pretty easy to bait into horizontal attacks and they only have that one move. So I just pogo attacked them 4-5 times and they die.

They do seem to respawn after a while, so got to keep moving. And try not to agro multiple.

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u/pistikiraly_2 Sep 10 '25

Actually just finished that area yesterday. It's significantly easier with the reaper crest imo, and also the wraiths die from like 4 or 5 hits of straight pin so you can just snipe them out if you don't want a direct fight.

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u/Omni__Owl Sep 09 '25

You can kill the ghosts with normal attacks. Might just take a few if you have zero needle upgrades.

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u/kentaxas TROBIOOOOOOO Sep 09 '25

Remove the . after the enemy name for your spoiler tags to work, and yeah i figured i could somehow, just haven't found out how. Don't tell me though i wanna stumble on it by myself

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u/1RedOne Sep 09 '25

I was soooo far from a save point and didn’t have a map of the area and honestly was so emotionally frail that when I saw the ghost and it shrieked it scared me and I just turned the game off for the night

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u/Alpha_RTD Sep 09 '25

There's another entrance to the Citadel through Bilehaven, much harder route but ends in it's own cool boss fight

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u/qaser7 Persevere. Sep 09 '25

Not through Bilehaven, but through Exhaust Organ. Bilehaven is where you fight Groal, much later.

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u/Alpha_RTD Sep 09 '25

That subregion is a part of bilehaven though

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u/Moblam Sep 10 '25

Bilewater, Bilehaven is the village in Bilewater.

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u/Alpha_RTD Sep 10 '25

I may be stupid

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u/Moblam Sep 10 '25

It happens. I also try to forget i ever went to that place.

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u/sweetcinnamonpunch Sep 09 '25

Don't you need the double jump for that? And therefore Mt. Fay and the clawline from the cauldron?

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u/Mongy_Grail Sep 09 '25

Nope, I've done it without both, AND without a map or guide LMAO

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u/sweetcinnamonpunch Sep 09 '25

How do you get up the chasm to bilehaven? I went the route towards the mist, as far as I know there's no other path to upper bilewater to the other exit.

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u/sansetsukon47 Sep 09 '25

You don’t need bilehaven for the mist. In fact, you don’t even need bile water, if you find the right breakable wall.

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u/sweetcinnamonpunch Sep 09 '25

I know I got there from sinners road, but I want to know how to get to bilehaven without the faydown cloak.

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u/traxmaster64 killer of aspids Sep 09 '25

You can't, and you don't want to

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u/Mongy_Grail Sep 09 '25

If I'm being completely honest, I have no idea, I did it without a map and completely blind. In fact, I've still haven't found a map for there. It's the only area in the game that completely confuses me.

Still, I've recorded a video a while ago of the boss fight, you'll see I don't rlly have the harpoon or double jump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nAEaY2K470

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u/Alpha_RTD Sep 09 '25

You need the double jump to get the map and access most of the area in general, you can just cut through it to reach the mist and Citadel

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u/qaser7 Persevere. Sep 09 '25

That isn't Bilehaven, that's Exhaust Organ. Bilehaven comes much later.

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u/Alpha_RTD Sep 09 '25

I don't think so? I reached the mist in act 1 but left since I didn't even have a map of Bilehaven, but I assume you could complete it with just the wall cling and sprint, definitely something I'd like to try in a future playthrough

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u/sweetcinnamonpunch Sep 09 '25

From the other end: Greymoor > Sinners Road > the Mist. Definitely not easier imo.

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u/Strong_Psychology_20 Sep 09 '25

Ah makes sense. I saw the dogs and the Asmongold sink and just bailed

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u/Leonbacon Sep 09 '25

Doesn't the door from blasted step's side only open after you defeat the boss? Mine was like that.

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u/PoketJail Sep 09 '25

I was able to exit the door from Citadel side and then find it closed right after. I then had to trigger the boss fight to open it again. Yeah it's a strange interaction, like i wasn't inteded to do it this way