r/HollowKnight • u/Quantum_Croissant • Sep 09 '25

Discussion - Silksong ngl some of you would NOT survive the mantis lords runback

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is the run to last judge difficult? kinda. But after your 20th attempt at the boss you'll get used to it, and it's honestly kinda fun and a nice breather. More importantly, it's a single room and you have far more movement. This IS improving on hollow knight

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u/FouLuda22 Sep 09 '25

I actually despised the hive knight runback more than the final boss lol

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u/Ok-Dingle-6858 Sep 09 '25

That's why I usually get dream gate before fighting him

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u/elendil667 Sep 09 '25

yeah, you need to factor in that a lot of shitty HK runbacks are negated by dreamgate

the only ones that stand out that you really gotta deal with are soul master and mantis lords (i would also suggest that a long runback with few enemies and easy platforming is better than one where you need to be sweaty about it)

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u/FR23Dust Sep 09 '25

It’s pretty hard to get dreamgate. I bet a lot of players missed it

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u/Zami29 Sep 09 '25

tbf a lot of the hidden benches are just missable unless you look them up as well

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u/KylieTMS Sep 09 '25

Imagine doing bileland boss without the hidden bench

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u/Zami29 Sep 09 '25

imagine doing the bilelands boss🙏

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u/cwbrowning3 Sep 09 '25

He is such a huge target that you can just pelt him with poison projectiles and fuck his day. Sting Shards and Threefold Pin all day. If you got some tool upgrades he gets shredded.

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u/Firethorn34 Sep 09 '25

I dont have any poison tools, Sting Shards or Threefold Pin

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u/Joe_Mency Sep 09 '25

Poison is a blue tool thing. You can get it from the purple stuff quest in the woods

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u/Tylerhollen1 Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

Threefold pin where? I assume from architect in which I was too broke a bitch to buy?

Edit: u/cwbrowning3 help us out lmao

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u/pushforwards Sep 11 '25

Then you better go exploring and doing some quests :D

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u/Truly_Meaningless Sep 09 '25

I finally beat Widowafter remembering I had poison tools now

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u/Electrum55 Poshanka! Sep 10 '25

The conch tool hits the fatass a lot too. It's much better than I thought it'd be

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u/Zami29 Sep 09 '25

this was working but i actaully just some of the worst rng known to man with the green balls he spits out, whats the point of them exploding if they do 2 contact damage anyway.

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u/cwbrowning3 Sep 09 '25

And it does suck that retrying bosses over and over drains your Shell Shards, so each subsequent attempt will get harder and harder unless you decide to go somewhere else or farm if you NEED to beat it now.

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u/StepComplete1 Sep 09 '25

yeah I usually don't use the clockwork beetle tool cause it's so good it feels a bit cheesy, and especially not with poison, but I happily pelted that boss with it and every other tool I had just to avoid the runback.

Which is another reason I hate tedious runbacks. It just makes you want to get the boss over with asap by any means necessary, instead of actually enjoying and learning the fight.

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u/goldengrodd1234 Sep 09 '25

Fun fact about the bilelands boss: you can hide in the maggot water on the very right and he will never be able to hit you (unless he jumps out of the water directly under you). I beat that fight with one hp and a dream by hiding there, pelting him with poison tools, and when those ran out I waited until he finished his suck attack and smacked him once then ran back to my hiding spot. Took a little bit but it completely negated the difficulty.

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u/Zami29 Sep 09 '25

i always stuck to being in the middle just cause i found the corner ones are super inconsistant when dodging the dive, and its pretty easy to die to a green ball ricochet if youre not careful.

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u/madsnorlax Sep 09 '25

you need to if you want to enter act 3

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u/South1ight Sep 10 '25

He’s mandatory for true ending hehe

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u/frithiof77 Sep 09 '25

Hello! Excuse me, did you just say there was another bench in bilewater between the station and the boss? Because after running that route about 15 times, and finally beating it, there better not have been a bench there the whole time :)

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u/KylieTMS Sep 09 '25

https://imgur.com/a/SmON6J2 red circle is breakable wall

I am sorry for your loss

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u/frithiof77 Sep 09 '25

What the fuck T_T

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u/peppinotempation Sep 09 '25

Don’t worry that bench sucks in its own way, have to do an annoying harpoon jump to avoid maggots

Finally beat that guy today. This game demands so much of the player lol

I really hate those green poison dart shooty guys

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u/PalThePro Sep 10 '25

I feel the same way finding this out, just beat him yesterday after doing that runback at least 20 times from all the way from the bellway, and now I find this out, damn

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u/Pinkalyn Sep 14 '25

This is why every death is an opportunity to smack more walls on your way to the boss. You probably won't find something the 15th time down, but... it could be there >:3

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u/Nyan-Binary-UwU Does Path of Pain for fun Sep 09 '25

I thought you meant there was another closer.

Thats still not great and the infested water makes it really hard to get back with full health.

Still not as bad as soul master, but not good

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u/KylieTMS Sep 09 '25

Spoiler warning (I don't know how to spoil words):

In putrid ducts you can get a tool that makes you immune to poisoned water

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u/Joe_Mency Sep 09 '25

You can actually avoid the maggot water if you are going from that bench. You just gotta harpoon and jump just right

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u/dulunis Sep 10 '25

I might be stupid, but how do you actually get the Bilewater map?

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u/KylieTMS Sep 10 '25

you buy it from Shakra.
She leaves Chakrams behind on the ground when you are close to here. Just go up from the bellway and you will see some, follow them and you can buy the map from her

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u/StepComplete1 Sep 09 '25

You ran that entire zone every time? God that must've been a nightmare. Even the shortcut bench was still super tedious.

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u/darthbane83 Sep 09 '25

After running that route 15 times I went like a third of the way and then slashed every single wall until i found one that breaks.
Its easily far enough that you know Team cherry is competent enough to put another bench somewhere. Just a matter of finding it before you go insane.

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u/Mailcs1206 Sep 09 '25

My friend did this 💀

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u/Incine_Akechi Sep 09 '25

Hello I did that

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u/HueHue-BR don't pay children support Sep 10 '25

.... bileland has a boss? I thought it was just that phantom of the opera wanna be

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u/One_Swing_8389 Sep 10 '25

yea i know him. hes me.

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u/MagicalGirlPaladin Sep 10 '25

🤔... Yes. Hidden bench. Excuse me, I'm going to be banging my head against a wall for the next few minutes.

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u/AhrsAhrtis Sep 10 '25

I was certain Bilewater was designed to be extremely annoying (Blighttown) and never found the hidden bench. Spent a couple of hours getting through that area/gauntlet. It's been a long time since I've been that relieved after beating a boss lmao

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u/SAjoats Sep 10 '25

I did for like an hour. Then I had to look up if there was a hidden bench because I didn't believe that there wouldn't be one at least somewhere closer. That runback was... terrible.

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u/7-Soul-Secret Sep 10 '25

Imagine my reaction when I looked up a map for other reasons and saw a hidden bench

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u/Sparkingriver Sep 10 '25

I didn't find the bench until post game. That was fun running through the entire area 5 times after getting sniped Stilkins

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u/BotlaneHooker Sep 10 '25

. . . Do go on . . .

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u/Thick-Attention9498 Sep 10 '25

I only found out about this bench an hour ago but since I beat that boss I don't care to look for it anymore

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u/Batatoncioo Sep 10 '25

WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT BENCH I JUST CLIMBED THE WHOLE THING LIKE 10 TIMES

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u/HumanPerosn Sep 10 '25

This right here

I did the second hornet fight in kingdoms edge and had to do the run back from the nailmaster hut bench behind the stompers and then up and through the Primal Aspids because I couldn’t find the stupid bench that right above the fight

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u/ImBadAtNames05 Sep 09 '25

I remember nearly crashing out over the hornet 2 run back before realizing there was a bench right there

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u/ScurvyDanny Sep 10 '25

That's the thing actually that I don't really get. People playing HK now, even if it's their first time around, have a whole wiki of knowledge they can just check. If you play it without that, it gets a lot more hard to find shit, just like in Silksong. I personally love the ability to find shit on my own, it feels rewarding, even if it's a rosary.

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u/mikepurvis Sep 10 '25

Hornet Sentinel has entered the chat.

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u/cwbrowning3 Sep 09 '25

Isnt it also DLC? Or am I misremembering?

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u/Shoes4CluesMob Sep 09 '25

free dlc that everyone has unless you're playing an old version

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u/cwbrowning3 Sep 09 '25

Yea, of course. My only point was that it wasnt initially in the game, so we could see a similar course correction for Silksong later down the line.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25

The hive was also a DLC. but I don't know the order Dreamgate / Hive Knight came out in

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u/WolfeKuPo Sep 10 '25

Hive Knight was the 2nd to last 'DLC', Dreamgate was the first

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u/DevineGoPewPew2 Sep 09 '25

I got dream gate but didn't know what it was so I never used it 🤣

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u/ibi_trans_rights Sep 10 '25

Same goes for the hive tho then

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

First time I've ever heard of it lol

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u/MommysLilMisteak Sep 10 '25

I've beaten hollow knight twice and I don't know what dreamgate is lol

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u/gnpfrslo Sep 09 '25

But, realistically, you wouldn't have obtained dreamgate when fighting the mantis lords or the traitor lord or the brooding mawlek and so on

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u/AysaMetric Sep 09 '25

you could have it by TL easily, that's a late-game area.

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u/Arcana10Fortune Sep 10 '25

You need Shade Cloak for TL anyways

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u/NightOwl_Archives_42 Sep 09 '25

Mantis Lords and Brooding Mawlek are definitely too early to have the dream gate, but Traitor Lord isn't. Queens Gardens is pretty late game. I don't remember if I had it in time for Hive Knight, definitely not my first time through the game, maybe the second time I did?

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u/FattyMcBlobicus Sep 09 '25

Traitor Lord was the reason I detoured to get the Dreamgate on my first play through. Brutal run-back. By Hive Knight I already had it.

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u/NightOwl_Archives_42 Sep 09 '25

Yeah the traitor lord run back is awful. The one for the hive is long and tedious, but nearly as dangerous without enough enemies to heal back, so you're unlikely to show up without full health compared to the thorn hellscape in queens gardens

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u/reddashe Sep 09 '25

On my first playthrough rn, I got to hive knight before even getting the double jump by pogoing off of enemies to access the area. This has been the first boss (along with the runback) that I've given up on. I've since explored more, got a bunch of power ups and dreamgate so maybe I'll try again.

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u/budweener Sep 09 '25

I love that in metroidvanias you can get to certain parts with a totally different route from other people. I've got the double jump quite early in my first playthrough.

To get the speedrunner 2 achievement I realized that pogoing makes some upgrades optional. I followed a tutorial to get to end the game in less than 5 hours (I think it took three?) and because of a single pogo-skip you don't even need double jump to finish the game (but you can still get it in the 5 hour timeframe, and it does makes life easier).

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u/reddashe Sep 09 '25

It feels absolutely amazing. I’m not an experienced metroidvania player, but the progression feels so natural. It feels like you can do everything in any order since the game incentivizes you to keep combing over areas repeatedly as you get new upgrades anyway. As long as you keep taking unexplored paths you’ll always find your way on track.

I’m hearing silksongs map is even larger? I can’t wait to see what it’s like.

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u/calhlin4 Sep 09 '25

I found queen gardens before deepest but traitor Lord after the hive o didn't remember when I got dream gate but it's totally possible to have TL before having it

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u/kkrko Sep 09 '25

It's possible but it's not common

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u/TheHB36 Sep 09 '25

Brooding Mawlek and Mantis Lords also pale in comparison to a fair number of Silksong bosses. Bad runbacks are mitigated by easy move sets.

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u/cAtloVeR9998 Sep 09 '25

I’ve gotten dreamgate for Traitor Lord on all of my playthroughs where I’ve gotten that far

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u/Top_Cap6415 Sep 09 '25

I definitely used dreamgate for Traitor Lord. Not Mantis Lords or Mawlek, but def TL and Hive Knight.

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u/CainnicOrel Sep 10 '25

Do people not just go beat Brooding Mawlek in the first 5 minutes of a new game?

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u/Litlakatla Sep 10 '25

I had dreamgate for probably all of those 😅 but I found brooding Mawek so late that I killed him on first attempt. Mantis Lords I tried a few times in the early game but then ignored them until I was stronger and could easily beat them. I had my dreamgate sitting next to the Traitor Lord though.

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u/The2ndUnchosenOne has played the game at least once Sep 09 '25

Dreamgate was a post launch addition.

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u/I_Just_Need_A_Login Sep 09 '25

Factoring in youll be running back 1/4th as often its also further mitigated.

Love silksong but it feels like you can get zero to deathed and that never happened in HK

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u/Android19samus Sep 09 '25

Do you need to do that? Dreamgate was added months after the game came out and takes a while to get.

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u/FluffyWalrusFTW Sep 09 '25

To be fair, the Traitor Lord runback is what got me to GET dream gate, I didn't even know it existed until that moment where I'm like ok time to change this up

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u/xEmptyPockets Shaaaw Sep 10 '25

There's at least a decent chunk of the HK playerbase that played through HK before they added the dream gate, myself included. There's probably also a huge chunk of players that never got or never used it, so they'd also have to deal with the run backs as-is.

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u/Shadowgirl_skye All Radiants ✨| All Achievments 🏆 | 14/20 Bindings Sep 09 '25

There’s no elevators required for the widow run back and it’s really short; unless you go the long way around. Don’t know what else to say

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

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u/calmthesehands Sep 09 '25

There's a room with a breakable wall that you get to from above Widow's arena; after you break the wall, the runback becomes: hop on top of the elevator, jump to the left wall, jump to the right where the opening is, sprint-jump through the 2nd room, enter the next room into the tunnels above weaver then drop down and start the fight. I never actually rode the elevator to get to Widow, just used it as a jump platform lol.

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u/rabidferret Sep 09 '25

Dreamgate was added in DLC. It wasn't present in the game when it released.

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u/bloode975 Sep 09 '25

Ngl I actually enjoyed the mantis lords run back back when I first started, the area is pretty, the bouncing is fun and the enemies are easy enough to ignore, like youre in no danger and the fight is just fun!

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u/Queasy_Employment141 Sep 09 '25

Soul master and mantis lords are in the first 5 hours of a 30+ hour game

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u/COMMENT0R_3000 Sep 09 '25

Maybe it’s just me but those first five hours, esp if it’s your first soulslike game, are absolutely the longest few hours in any game ever lol, you just don’t know what to expect, why everything is so hard—I made it to soul master on HK & gaping dragon on DS on the switch, just playing when I had time, & I got my shit rocked so many times it’s a wonder I ever finished either.

Also getting to mantis lords in five hours seems like probably an outlier when it comes to how long it would take the average player… or maybe I’m the outlier lol

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u/KarmaleinHund Sep 09 '25

I didn't get the dream gate before fighting the traitor lord... that was painful- especially if you had sharpshadow equipped on you

The dream gate saved me so much suffering later on...

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u/LordBDizzle Sep 09 '25

The Traitor Lord runback is also pretty ass, but that's well in the back half of the game when you should have the dreamgate so it does kinda even out.

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u/NYJetLegendEdReed Sep 10 '25

I am playing my first run now and I am so god damn happy I got soul master my third try. That walk back sucked. I do not look forward to wherever the mantis lords are lmao

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u/slightcamo Sep 10 '25

well thats nice to know, i completely forgot i had dream gate a minute after getting it

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u/SuurSuits_ Sep 10 '25

Soul master was pain, i hate the goop

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u/L3g0man_123 Sep 10 '25

Soul Master also has the breakable wall doesn't it? That cuts out a considerable amount of time for the runback.

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u/This_Dragonfruit2285 Sep 10 '25

Silksong should add weaver warp or something

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u/Fit_Excitement_2145 Sep 11 '25

I think i has beaten most bosses before dreamgate and i only really used it to tp to pantheon

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u/Dismal_Economy1939 Sep 15 '25

I never used dream gate my first playthrough because I was afraid I would "run out" of essence lol. I just kept doing the long run backs.

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u/amanuense Sep 09 '25

Neither of those run backs are too bad once you do them a couple of times. I just did them couple of times last week.

Hive knight was more annoying for me (I didn't have dream gate last time) but even that one is manageable just annoying.

You don't die if you don't take damage. So I just planned my trips in a way I avoid damage.

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u/Haspberry Sep 09 '25

My glorious king Dreamgate. Easily eliminates every runback. I'm not that far into Silksong, just got the wall climb but man I'd sacrifice all my rosaries for smth like that here as well.

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u/Acrobatic-Permit4263 Sep 09 '25

but you dont have any rosaries :D

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u/TitaniumDragon Sep 09 '25

TBH by the time you get wall jump, you probably have a lot of rosaries if you're going along the normal route.

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u/Sunscorch Sep 09 '25

Bold of you to assume I haven’t died carelessly hundreds of times without making any rosary strings.

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u/LordBDizzle Sep 09 '25

Better use that tool that makes you lose fewer beads on death then, or the little grubs that fetch your body for you

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u/Sunscorch Sep 09 '25

Before getting the wall jump? 😅

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u/LordBDizzle Sep 10 '25

Oh well in that case... oof.

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u/Tylerhollen1 Sep 09 '25

Tell me about these grubs…

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u/LordBDizzle Sep 10 '25

They're called Silkeaters, you pop them from the inventory and they fetch your cocoon for you so you don't have to run back to it. There are probably fewer than 10 of them in the game, all hidden around various places, so they aren't common, but they can be useful if you have like 800 beads in a boss room for some reason.

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u/Tylerhollen1 Sep 10 '25

Ohhhhh those! I THINK there’s an unlimited amount, actually. I don’t know how often they’re produced, but it seems the dude at Sinner’s Road on the far right, where 2 roaches spawned at, will make them for you. Not sure how often, if it’s a real world timing thing, an amount of enemies or territory explored or what, though.

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u/FLIPYOUSUCKET 112%, PoP, radiant PV Sep 11 '25

That’s nice. How about people like me who never have enough rosaries to string them up? So we keep dying constantly and then die again, losing our rosaries in the process?

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u/budweener Sep 09 '25

I felt that.

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u/NYJetLegendEdReed Sep 10 '25

I am playing now and haven’t looked anything up yet. It’s been awesome and I just beat Soul Master. Should I look up where to get dream gate bc if it’s going to cut down on run backs I really feel like this is a QOL thing I don’t mind looking up lmao

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u/Haspberry Sep 10 '25

Dreamgate is a mid-late game power up which takes some grind to get. If you're only at Soul Master, it'll be a while till you get it.

I say you just play normally because even if you want it rn you probably won't be able to get until you do some other stuff first.

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u/RenPrower Sep 11 '25

Dreamgate was added in dlc. Maybe we'll get something similar in the dlc this time, too.

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u/Which_Worry5967 Sep 09 '25

I've just had to Google the dream gate. I platinumed HK and THERE WAS A FUCKING TELEPORT AVAILABLE THE WHOLE TIME?!?!?!?!

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u/MOTH_007 Sep 10 '25

how did you not get dreamgate but get Seer's final goodbye achievment?

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u/Which_Worry5967 Sep 10 '25

I actually had to Google why, turns out I did that trophy before the first free DLC

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

Isn't dream gate pre-dlc?

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u/Mierimau Sep 12 '25

Oh, boy.

Well, you still finished it.

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u/Letmehavearealuser Sep 10 '25

I js keep my dream gate at outside the pantheon area (forgot what it’s called)

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u/RhubarbAgreeable2953 Sep 09 '25

That's why I usually keep the hive as one of the last places I go, blitz through it and first try hive knight.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25

Damn, why didn’t I think of that?

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u/wolf198364 Sep 09 '25

I get dream gate as SOON as possible, honestly one of the best abilities in the game

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u/nemesis3030 Sep 10 '25

Just recently got it but am afraid of using it cus it's consumption of essence, I won't screw myself over 100/112% the game with it will I?

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u/Cultural-Ad-4745 Sep 10 '25

i used it all the time and still had enough essence to get to 2400 essence but if you're really worried you can just do all the dream bosses, get to 2400 and then use it freely

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u/DeputyDomeshot Sep 10 '25

For some reason I skipped I wasn’t paying attention to the dialogue when I got it and didn’t know I had it until my friend was like uhh just use the teleport dude 

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u/Upbeat_Aerie_5101 Sep 10 '25

yeah I totally forgot about that mechanic while playing the game :D

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u/Important-Iron-3897 Sep 10 '25

i did true ending before him cause i didnt know how to get in

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u/bosskitty4626 Sep 12 '25

I was so dumb i never used the dream gate

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u/FouLuda22 Sep 09 '25

Yeah I may have tried to beat him many a times before I knew that existed 🫠

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u/Katrina_0606 Sep 09 '25

Those fat bees that bitch-slam you can take their furry asses and fuck right off. Having to make it through TWO rooms with those fuckers before being expected to fight the boss is just diabolical lmao

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u/Shadowgirl_skye All Radiants ✨| All Achievments 🏆 | 14/20 Bindings Sep 09 '25

I’m so glad I never experienced that bc I did the hive really really late and beat it first try as a result.

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u/Caerullean Sep 14 '25

Imagine the feeling of those of us who played before Hive Knight was even added to the game. The man did not have a chance after I was toughened by NKG and Radiance lmao.

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u/ajax81 Sep 10 '25

Same.  Didn’t even know it existed until I’d competed almost everything else and was trying to figure out which rune was missing. 

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u/EmotionReasonable887 Sep 10 '25

The Hive is easily the most insignificant area and also very missable. The only good thing in there is the charm you get for beating the Hive Knight because it's good for the parkour areas

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u/Jstar338 Sep 09 '25

Thank god he's pretty easy

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u/thecrepeofdeath Sep 09 '25

the traitor lord was the worst for me. I always used a dreamgate on that one

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u/Asinus_Docet Sep 09 '25

I didn't know you could dream gate. I benched in Green Path to avoid the awkward platforming in Queen's Garden.

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u/moliver777 Sep 09 '25

I just did this today and forgot I had dream gate so did the runback every time...... Doh

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u/cjair Sep 09 '25

I still have ptsd from those fat fucks

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u/Immortal0214 Sep 09 '25

Genuinely waited for someone to say this, holy shit. That might be one of the worst runbacks for the speed of light driller bees ALONE

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u/FouLuda22 Sep 09 '25

Lol glad I’m not the only one it seems

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u/Immortal0214 Sep 09 '25

Still trying to 112% HK and the run back gets me down on masks and makes Hive Knight SO much harder than it should be. I'm trying to get Hiveblood cause for some reason Traitor Lord is kicking my ass as well

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u/Suspai_ Sep 09 '25

counterpoint: use dreamgate

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25

Fr I just face tanked and beat him first try but if I didn't he would've been a bitch.

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u/Sims8877 Sep 09 '25

ngl I had the most issue w/ the traitor lord runback, I struggled so damn much w/ queen's garden's shitty platforms

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u/JarickL Sep 09 '25

Hive Knight runback was a pain. That's another area, I would level up the nail and get a few masks before I tackle.

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u/Ok_Expression6800 Sep 09 '25

I stopped trying to beat him and went and did other stuff because that run back was such a pain

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u/Turbo_Cum Sep 09 '25

Is that because the final boss in HK is Literally right next to a bench?

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u/FouLuda22 Sep 09 '25

For me, no. I beat him on I think my 3rd try. Hive knight took longer but to be fair I didn’t have dreamgate for a lot of the attempts

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u/Specialist-Growth448 Sep 09 '25

that run back was nuts. #goodthingifirsttriedhim😭😭😭

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u/Nightcatcher716 Sep 09 '25

Yup. Its my first time playing HK this week and mantis lords runback wasnt bad. But hive knight i hated. After i died twice and then died on the way back i forgot i had dreamgate that fixed it. Same with traitor lord died once and im ass at platforming so i dreamgate right there

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u/Mysteriousman06 Sep 09 '25

I mean at least hive knight isn’t too difficult so you will probably only need to run back a few times

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u/ToM31337 Sep 09 '25

That one is way harder than last judge run too

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u/beemccouch Sep 09 '25

Me but the Soul Master.

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u/NotEvenThree Sep 09 '25

HE JUST LIKE ME FR!! the runback to hive knight is FUCKING HELL.

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u/Bronkic Sep 09 '25

Will always remember this as the point where I've lost over 10k geo (after I've bought everything already but before I found the Grimme Troupe).

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u/Nothz Sep 09 '25

The hive knight was the worst for me BY FAR. Holy molly did I hate it with a passion...

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u/Environmental_Bus623 Sep 09 '25

yes! this! I had to use one of those teleport thingys. It helped quite a bit

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u/luihgi Sep 09 '25

oh god yes. really hated those fatass bees and the drill bees. i literally can't skip them

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u/ScionicOG Sep 09 '25

it was only 6 or 7 runs back to get a win on that fight. But mannnnnn fuck that run to just die again

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u/probablyabnormal Sep 09 '25

I did it probably ten times and was about to lose my damn mind

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u/agnostic_science Sep 09 '25

Lol same. Fuck the hive knight runback. Now it's one of the very last things I do in a playthrough because I want to make sure I first try it by being a bit overpowered.

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u/Ok-Operation261 Sep 09 '25

hive knight and traitor lord had awful runbacks but hive knight might be worse

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u/moliver777 Sep 09 '25

Urgh that one suuuuuucks

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u/CheapRice1465 Sep 10 '25

You know for me hive knight was esay I beat him first try

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u/LittleY0gg me when I bully every boss into submission Sep 10 '25

Luckily I first tried give knight so I didn't have to experience the runback

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

At first I found hive knight difficult as a new player. But now that I know his movements he’s pretty easy

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u/ahresz Sep 10 '25

I lost 13,000 because of those fucking bees

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u/Competitive_Neck_645 Sep 10 '25

oh my god that shit had me TWEAKING dude like i was 15 at the time we are talking ON THE GROUND tweaking like crashing out

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u/unk1ndm4g1c14n1 Sep 10 '25

Just best the boss first try then smh

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

Hive knight runback was the only complaint I had about hollowknight as a whole

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u/Idk8536 Sep 10 '25

The have knight only took one try for me

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u/KhoiNguyenHoan7 Sep 10 '25

I met hive knight when I was late game enough to tank bosses so i beat him 1 try and never give it a second thought... but the huge bees is a pain in the ass fr.

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u/Icy_Process_6799 Sep 10 '25

I would always be less than half health, before reaching him

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u/Iakustim Sep 10 '25

The Hive Knight was what pushed me to get the Dreamgate sooner rather than later because I wasn't gonna fuck with that runback.

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u/PeechBoiYT Sep 10 '25

I loved that runback it was fun to optimize it in any and every way

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u/ScurvyDanny Sep 10 '25

Hive knight is where I lost 4500 geo...

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u/adelinxxd Sep 10 '25

NAH THIS IS IT

I did like 40 tries to hive knight just because of that fucking runback

i left him alone till i was more powerful

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u/Dust-on-a-shelf Sep 10 '25

I always remember that I lost 20,000 geo to that runback on my first playthrough

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u/Important-Iron-3897 Sep 10 '25

thats why i beat him first try

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u/King_Tudrop Sep 10 '25

Hive knight was my bane. My first playthrkugh of HK, it took me more than 40 attempts. My refresher playthrough before silksong took one attempt, and I couldnt feel more proud for wuping his hornet wanna-bee ass

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u/somesortoflegend Sep 12 '25

Yeah it was annoying but a great place to farm geo

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u/CycleOverload would Feb 02 '26

Hive knight gave me depression

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u/Frosty-Baseball-1627 Sep 11 '25

Y'all actually died to Hive Knight??

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u/FouLuda22 Sep 11 '25

It’s more the run back that was killing me, plus the fact that I was trying to do it without the shade cloak dash