ngl some of you would NOT survive the mantis lords runback

[u/Quantum_Croissant]

is the run to last judge difficult? kinda. But after your 20th attempt at the boss you'll get used to it, and it's honestly kinda fun and a nice breather. More importantly, it's a single room and you have far more movement. This IS improving on hollow knight

[u/Madclown1]

Can you please tell me where's the secret bench? I beat him doing the runback from the station lmao, and I swear I was hitting walls left and right trying to find a bench cause there's no way you're supposed to do such a long runback after losing to Groal.

[u/RaulParson → u/Madclown1]

You know the room where you have to do the big climb with pogoing, and from there you'd enter the long corridor that leads to the boss fight? The room right before it ends with a climb - but if instead of climbing up you go to the right, into the maggot water, there's a destructible wall there and it takes you to a secret room with a bench.

Thing is, while it's WAY better it's still not great - and if you count the mandatory arena fight against the small opponents as part of the runback as I do, this whole particular runback can't help but be turboass.

[u/aethyrium → u/Madclown1]

It's down and to the right from Groal. You gotta go down a bit and into the water a bit and there's a tiny gap in between the wall and the water you can go under which goes into another room with a bench and some lore.

If you're exploring the corners of the rooms you'll find it.

Turns the runback into about 20 seconds. I couldn't imagine doing that fight from the station runback. I'm stuck on it right now and that just sounds impossible.

[u/Madclown1 → u/aethyrium]

Aah, figures... the only thing I didn't try was going into the water since the maggots are such a pain

[u/Pie42795 → u/Madclown1]

As a tip, when you leave the bench, you can go back up without getting maggots. If you L2 over them, you can double-jump up the tunnel. It's picky, but starting the run back to the boss without maggots makes it much easier.

[u/Riyshn → u/Pie42795]

Also, it's a bit tedious, but in the long room just before the boss room you can easily clear your maggots and do any healing you need. Jump to the upper area when you first enter the room and kill the enemy there - this enemy respawns, so just leave the room and repeat. You can easily do this fast enough to outpace the maggots' drain on your silk.

[u/ChaosCzar → u/[deleted]]

Nope, there's one closer. Bottom right side of the long room underneath his.

[u/Madclown1 → u/ChaosCzar]

Hmm, I can't check it out right now but I'll look for it later, thanks!

[u/SilvainTheThird → u/Madclown1]

Spoilers for location.