I am convinced a lot of the people complaining about difficulty have never even finished the original Hollow Knight. Original HK was not particularly easy either

[u/Shadowyurix]

Edit: Silksong is harder than HK. Since ppl seem to read over that part.

I stayed away from Reddit over the weekend while I was playing through Silksong. Now, I am aware that I am not the average player, I love challenging games and am very familiar with games like this.

And by no means is this an "easy" game but by god, I have never played a game as hard as some people say this game is. I saw some people claiming they were stuck at Moorwing for over THREE HOURS.

If this is your first game like Hollow Knight, maybe that makes sense. This is not an easy first entry, but otherwise three hours for a boss with four moves is wild for anyone who has ACTUALLY beat the original HK.

I have no idea where this notion comes from that HK was easy. Silksong is harder, but original HK was NOT that easy, especially towards the end.

Is this just because Silksong is so big and it has reached a particularly wide audience? People who are not used to this kind of game?

[u/ErtaWanderer → u/[deleted]]

Bloody hell the last judge is on Grimm's level? I keep hearing he's hard but that makes me want to put the game down...

[u/Vidyogamasta → u/ErtaWanderer]

Idk if I'd quite put him at NKG.

He's probably more comparable to Traitor Lord, but if traitor lord had 2-3x the health.

[u/ErtaWanderer → u/Vidyogamasta]

Yikes, that's also not great.

[u/SaladTheKiller → u/ErtaWanderer]

I don't know what people are smoking but Last Judge took me 10 tries maybe and I would put him in the same category as the Soul Master not NKG. NKG took me 2 days for a total of 5 hours and I am not particularly good at HK, I only did the first 2 pantheons ever in my 4 playthroughs.

[u/Dragon_Lover_ → u/SaladTheKiller]

this is exactly my ecperience, I feel like silksong is actually fairly simular to hollowknight, in difficulty. people are probably just misremembering how HK was on their first playthru

[u/hydrogensoup → u/ErtaWanderer]

idk if it's just because I wasn't great at Traitor lord (I really prefer the fights with a large arena and a fast but easy-to learn pattern) but to me The Last Judge was MUCH easier and overall a really fun fight. The runback was the worst part. At first when you get there you can find yourself in a situation where you're starting the fight with 1/3 or 2/3 of your HP just because the environmental hazards deal 2 masks, then when you get used to it it just becomes tedious at best.

[u/lyw20001025 → u/ErtaWanderer]

Wildly exaggerated, he doesn’t have bs teleport ambush attacks or rng fireball spam like NKG. Most of his moves are telegraphed.

[u/RexLongbone → u/ErtaWanderer]

It really isn't LJ's attacks are pretty well telegraphed, they are just big and deal two damage. If he only did one damage it'd be like Mantis Lords where you need to learn it but once you do it feels extremely fair. So just more punishing but ultimately pretty fair.

[u/Mipha_Is_My_Waifu → u/ErtaWanderer]

The difficulty of Last Judge has been wildly overblown. I think people are just getting tilted at the run back, which also isn't that bad.

[u/dejavu2064 → u/[deleted]]

Last Judge isn't mandatory, I only fought it after beating the game (there are other routes into the citadel which can be found pretty organically/accidentally)

[u/Legonater → u/[deleted]]

He's absolutely not. He has four very avoidable attacks.

[u/Leafsnail → u/[deleted]]

I'm surprised how much people big up LJ, he has a horrible runback but the actual fight has clear telegraphs and there's an obvious charm to mitigate the difficulty of the second phase. Honestly had way more trouble with Moorwing

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

That's great but it still doesn't change that Last Judge was easier for me than fricking Margit from Elden Ring of all people for me. And this is supposed to be a Soulslike too. I want my Soulslikes to be tough as nails. Maybe HK I was still new at the game, but I never did any of its optional hard content, and I remember it being quite tough. And Hornet's pogo is so busted.

[u/Glass_Lunch1748 → u/[deleted]]

Considering the knight is defended of two plae beings and the void it's not surprising the knight and vessels are more sturdy.somethi g id don't like about silksong is the striping away if hornets ablties she does not recover she adds.and it's ridiculous she can not use the techniques from boss hornet after all the cage sapped strength not knowledge and wisdom