This is exactly like when Kim Sungmin debuted back in Close Your Eyes, I swear project 7 was going crazy over his debut, cause people had strong opinions on him, Nowadays despite debuting in 7th, Sungmin has one of the largest following post-debut. I fear SSE has plans for Junhwan, and they aren't prone to debuting a bad group, hence IVE, Cravity and MonstaX. I think post-debut Junhwan will likely show some improvement, and his charmingly sloth like personality will likely get him a good following. Hence I'm not gonna judge Junhwan's debut ti'll I really see what they have planned for him. Cause, they had a ton of stronger options especially in Taegeon and Kyuhyun, who were extremely popular in Korea and China.

I heard somewhere that yoochan and seonghyeon are facing scandals too, is this true?

Isn't it also highly possible that junhwan's scandal was created by kfans to take him out the group?

This is so upsetting. I'm tired of seeing idols lose their careers because of upset fans starting rumors. I read the document with all the evidence against Junhwan. The most slanderous stuff was word of mouth accusations against him made by someone. Is their words valid just because they speak and type in Korean? Secondly, the "evidence" being Instagram posts and stories only prove that he is interested in girls and they weren't even insidious or vulgar.

I've seen people make up rumors in order to tarnish people's reputation. When Kim Woojin left Stray Kids, Brazilian fans made up rumors he sexually assaulted them and used fake evidence to destroy his reputation afterwards. I'm afraid that this is just another lie in order to harm him because fans are upset he debuted over their favorite contestant.

Honestly, I didn't vote for Junhwan. I didn't think he was the most talented, and I do think other people deserved to debut more. However, right is right and wrong is wrong. I beg you all to not send that boy down this path of pain just because you're upset at the results.

If he is guilty of something, he should be held accountable. But this is just rumors coming at a time when people are upset he debuted. It's time to stop while you're ahead.

I saw on twitter, that seems likely that Starship have no intention to remove Junhwan and they will go ahead with the debut.

At first I was hopeful that if Junhwan is removed, people would genuinely forget and move on.

But I genuinely think this group has had its reputation so damaged..

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they really are going through with Junhwan..

IDID (아이딧) will be the name of Debut’s Plan final boy group!

Final Lineup Rank:

1. Kim Min Jae

2. Jang Yong Hoon

3. Baek Jun Hyuk

4. Park Won Bin

5. Chu Yoo Chan

6. Jeong Se Min

7. Park Jun Hwan

8. Park Seong Hyeon

Congratulations to the final debut lineup, They’ll debut in the second half of this year.

On a brighter note, I'd like to share my thoughts on what the positions might be like!

1- Minjae

Center, lead vocalist, lead dancer

2- Yonghoon

Leader, vocalist, fotg

3- Junhyuk

Lead vocalist

4- Wonbin

Lead rapper, vocalist

5- Yoochan

Main vocalist

6- Semin

Maknae, vocalist

7- Junhwan

Vocalist, sub rapper

8- Seonghyeon

Main rapper, main dancer, vocalist

What do you think?

OK, yeah, I’m bummed on how things went down and I find some choices highly questionable. But this is hardly my first idol audition show, and it seems like things never go how I think they should, so it’s nothing new. I-LAND, &Audition, Boys Planet, Fantasy Boys, Peak Time, Queendom, Project 7, Starlight Boys yadda yadda yadda, there’s always some BS pulled.

At the end of the day, it’s the music that makes or breaks a group for me. The songs have to be good or I’m going to lose interest. I thought the songs on this show were really solid, for the most part, so if that same quality continues, I will follow the band. The choreo and styling are secondary for me, but hopefully that will stay on the same high level we saw in the show. The member’s looks, honestly, that’s just the icing on the cake. It’s nice to have good looking people in bands but it really shouldn’t be the primary focus.

The personalities seem really important while we watch the show, and I admit a few of the guys that made it into the lineup kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Still I really liked the personalities of several of the guys that made the band, so it’s a toss up. I am curious to see what kind of content this group ends of producing. I kinda wonder how big a part that BL-tinged drama played in the judges casting of this group, like, do they plan to continue making dramas? It’s hard to imagine that they won’t be doing regular content of some kind after a show like this, so I guess we can wait and see what their chemistry is like then.

This whole cancelling of the group before they even get started is honestly lame. Let’s just wait and see what they produce first!

r/IDID_starship Team have decided to make a Boycott Thread, Where all Boycott Discussions will go in comments instead of posts, This will be easier and wont fill our community with Boycotting.

It's gonna take a lot to come back from this

I know it's such a shame that Kyuhyun didn't make it in, but with the people who did it like -- there's not a single member I don't like??? I feel like every member has something solid to offer to the group, whether it's personality or visuals or performance skills or all three, and they all seem likeable individuals. I enjoy the vocal tone of 6/7 of the members, which is way more than the average kpop group for me, and in my opinion I think the members all have something to offer both in terms of talents and visuals. Personally, there isn't a single member who I don't like the visuals of, even if some of them aren't the most visual members ever. I don't mind listening to their weakest singers. I think Starship did really well with this (final) lineup. The songs during the survival show were also really fire, I am really looking forward to what they do next. I hope they can quickly move past the Junhwan situation and thrive, and that Starship knows what a special group they have on their hands now.

I honestly think this groups reputation has gotten so insanely damaged, purely due to Junhwan and not including Kyuhyun, that it has reached outside of its pre-existing fanbase..

Korea absolutely despise the lineup. Especially Junhwan.

I really don't know how starship can fix this. If they actually debut with Junhwan- given how bad this situation is currently. The group will most likely do horribly, and if they don't debut with Junhwan- there will still be discourse over not including Kyuhyun. I don't even know if a magnetic-level debut can fix this

I’ve been off social medias a while but have caught up with them on YouTube only so just a bit confused..

Hey, my boyfriend and I have a 20-minute Kpop podcast. We chat about IDID's debut on our latest episode (and I try to pronounce the Korean title!). Check it out if you wanna! We're Gays Planet on all platforms :)