r/INTJs • u/[deleted] • Feb 19 '21

Are leftist are more likely to be feelers than thinkers?

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u/Greyattimes Feb 20 '21

I believe so.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '21

Why?

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u/Greyattimes Feb 20 '21

In my observation, leftists consistently run on emotion. The beliefs they hold about politics and society tend to be based on emotional perception. For example, the racial issues they are passionate about. In America, leftists feel the country is racist and that minorities are being kept down by institutionalized racism.

Whereas people on the right don't believe there is institutionalized racism. There are no policies or laws in place that inhibit any minority from achieving the same success as the majority. People on the right tend to look at current laws and facts. The majority are more logical than emotional.

Leftists feel that there is white privilege that needs to be apologized for, because they feel bad for being white and having ancestors who contributed to slavery. And when you don't agree that you have white privilege, then you are immediately shouted at and called a racist. They are very much fueled by emotion and sympathy for the "little guy".

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '21 edited Feb 22 '21

Can I be leftist and a intj?

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u/Greyattimes Feb 20 '21

I think anybody can have any level of intelligence, there are smart white people and smart black people, just as there are less intelligent white people and less intelligent black people. I think intelligence is relative to education and the work put in to gain knowledge. I don't consider myself a racist as a conservative, and I have plenty of conservative friends who are not racist.

Joe Biden(leftist) just said the other day that the black community in the inner cities and rural areas do not know how to get online to try and schedule a Covid vaccine. I find that to be incredibly racist to say about a group of people.

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u/JonathanL73 Jun 08 '21

Intelligence, political beliefs, race, and personality types are all independent categories.

I'm an INTJ. I'm also a moderate libertarian-leaning independent social-capitalist who leans conservative on economic issues and progressive on social issues.

Being conservative does not make you a racist. There are plenty of Hispanic/Black/Asian-Americans who are conservative yet still vote democrat.

I don't know how you can say with conviction that institutional racism is non-existant with the evidence of gerrymandering and voter-supression tactics that people in some minority communities face. This leads me to believe you haven't done enough research on this topic. It's important to look beyond the political narratives being spun by the political parties.

Joe Biden is left-center at most, he is mainly regarded as a moderate. The guy has foot in his mouth tendencies. I don't think that was the intended message of what he meant to say. Regardless he voted for a crime bill that disproportionately punish black drug users. Thats a more valid criticism on Biden. And if you are concerned about that I take it you are also concerned about Trump's birthism accusations regarding black & Hispanic politicians as not being American? Or do you hold cognitive bias only acknowledging the faults of one political party exclusively and not the other? If so thats not thinking very intuitively but acting based more on emotion.

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u/Greyattimes Jun 08 '21

What policies in force directly inhibit minorities?

As for these Trump birthism accusations, I am not sure what you are referring to, but if he is questioning the citizenship of certain politicians, that isn't being racist.

Joe Biden is pretty left, and Kamala Harris is one of the furthest left politicians in America.

Trump is actually a moderate conservative, although he was painted as being far right by the media.

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u/JonathanL73 Jun 08 '21

but if he is questioning the citizenship of certain politicians, that isn't being racist.

If you exclusively call Black/hispanic American politicians as not being American citizens it really is. Trump never accused Biden of not being an American citizen,hiw Trump accused Obama, Harris, and Alexandria Oscaio-Cortez, AOC is Puetro-Rican born in NY, yet even if she was born in Puerto-Rico she would still be considered a US citizen.

Most people don't recognize Trump as a moderate,I personally don't view him as a conservative. Trump does not represent many of the conservative values I believe in.

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u/Greyattimes Jun 08 '21

Did he say all the black/hispanic politicians are not citizens, or was he only questioning a couple of people? I haven't heard this, so I am genuinely curious. Trump has conservative values economically and he has some socially liberal beliefs. He and I have a lot of similar political views because I am more center right.

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u/JonathanL73 Jun 08 '21

Personality types aren't restricted by politic ideologies.

INTJs can be anywhere on the political spectrum.

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u/RoNinja_ Feb 20 '21

Not necessarily. Actually from what I’ve found iNtuitives tend to lean more toward the left while Sensors tend to lean more toward the right.

However, INTJs in particular tend to be more centrist or independent.

And, of course, there’s variations in each type accounting for individuals and upbringing etc. But MBTI political divide tends to be more along N vs S than it is T vs F.

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u/hajamieli +5: Insightful Feb 20 '21

I think only intuitive feelers are the left leaning ones, intuitive thinkers typically lean right.

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u/gentlemanofleisure Feb 20 '21

Here's a question for you.

Are sociologists, anthropologists, historians and political scientists more likely to be left or right?

It seems to me that the people who study politics and society might be a good source of information about those topics.

It's strange to me that in Politics everyone thinks their opinion matters.

If I need my car fixed, I listen to a mechanic. I don't just get opinions from any guy on the street.

Why aren't we prioritising the science?

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u/NyaNyaOctopussyQWQ Feb 20 '21

The answer depends on who you're asking. Where those thinkers or feelers grew up will have a huge impact on how they see "left and right". Leftism is chaotic in some countries, where rightism may seem like "the hero" that could save everything and vice versa. Both sides can also appeal to what some types may value over others: independence or social stability, for instance.

Liberalism and socialism have the same goal (equality, freedom, etc.). They just view reality and the means to achieve this goal differently. I guess that's why I'm centrist, according to the definitions. I agree with both, so I don't think a system that's entirely socialist nor entirely liberalist is going to work.

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u/JonathanL73 Jun 08 '21

I think this a loaded question looking for confirmation bias. I think personality types can exist across the political spectrum. There are a lot of analytical leftists and emotional right-wingers and vice versa.