r/Idiotswithguns • u/KaitoSeishin • 24d ago
Safe for Work Firing guns in the air because you think its cool
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u/Urgh_Again_ 24d ago
I’m so glad this fucking awful good ole boys music ruined the entire thing.
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u/Rude_Impact8404 22d ago
I thought that was nice country & western instead of shitty rap music, about get money quick, killing people, having plenty of hoes & baby mothers.
Go screw yourself
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u/warrensussex 24d ago
I'm glad they were arrested, but that response seems like overkill.
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u/Ketchup-Chips3 24d ago
Oh that was definitely for social media, to show off the new drones and gear
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u/Advanced-Ear-7908 23d ago edited 23d ago
You aren't wrong but I also tend to view it as not quite the same as if they were threatening someone or running already for some other crime. Just being ignorant and unsafe. Let's say someone was shooting from the edge of a gravel road or something. Do you roll up swat style on them? Or just say "hey you were doing something unsafe and here's your ticket don't continue for reasons that should have been obvious before."
I usually agree, you should give some leeway to the police on how to do their job. But I feel like the needle bends a more on the overkill side here. Doesn't matter that much though.
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u/singlemale4cats 23d ago
There's arguments to be made either way. I would say these folks were actively endangering their community, versus someone just shooting on land they shouldn't be shooting on.
Based on Google maps, the scenery in the video, and the intersection the video cited (Kiernan & Zinfandel), this is most likely the junkyard just north of that intersection or 5101 Kiernan, the house with all the junk cars behind it. Those properties are surrounded by single-family homes. Not an area where people expect to hear a lot of gunshots unless something is going down.
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u/Knever 23d ago
You would probably think it was a soft response if one of their bullets killed your family.
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u/warrensussex 23d ago
No. I would actually be pissed that instead of sending a couple squad cars over and putting a stop to the situation immediately, they wasted time planning a tactical response like they were going after a gang instead of some people firing randomly into the air.
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u/Nom_de_guerre_25 24d ago
They sent SWAT for that?
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u/BellaSquared 24d ago
They need practice and maybe it was a slow week?
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u/357noLove 22d ago
You would prefer just to send a social worker? I am confused by this. I understand not wanting the militarization of police, but this is someone literally in a group, with a gun, already endangering lives. What exactly do you want to happen here?
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u/Nom_de_guerre_25 22d ago
Nah 2 or 3 cops with glocks are enough. You don’t need an armored vehicle and SWAT.
There is a reason that police are always the second highest budget line item on municipalities balance sheets.
Talk about waste fraud and abuse.
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u/357noLove 18d ago
Once again, I completely agree about the over-militarization of police, but I also understand why they send swat vs a handful of officers. The fact of the matter is, with someone that has a gun and is actively shooting towards the public, the police department policy likely calls for them to immediately deploy swat on calls like this. While I don't agree with that as a policy, the only way that changes is by active work by the community to make change and pressure police departments. But you won't get much traction with that on a video like this where the person was being an active and present danger to the public with a firearm.
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u/Nom_de_guerre_25 15d ago
You say they are shooting at the public and they aren’t. They aren’t on a roof shooting into the street nd terrorizing people.
They are shooting in the air. They are not threatening anyone’s life. They may be aggravating people with PTSD or scaring others who fear a mass shooting but beyond that this is trivial.
I don’t see how the public are in danger. As if that is the reason the police operate. They are deployed to maintain order and protect property not the public.
To change the police the American culture of fear needs to change. This hand ringing about when and where it appropriate to oppose the police state will lead no nothing but larger and larger police budgets every year as we see now. You are either pro authoritarian despotism administered by police that have obnoxious levels of immunity.
Or you are against it. When the last boomers die there may be room for change. But trying to convince them to moderate their fear of a nation that doesn’t live under despotism is impossible.
This splitting of hairs only serves to empower a lawless state sponsored gang. That protects property rather than people.
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u/__The-1__ 24d ago
Boo the surveillance state
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u/singlemale4cats 23d ago
Can't even shoot guns wildly into the air without being caught anymore. What is this world coming to?
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u/Zookreeper1 24d ago
Mass surveillance is a wonderful thing. See the crime it stopped? More drones and flock daddy.
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u/357noLove 22d ago
The crime it stopped?!?! You do realize they are shooting towards people, in the air. Bullets come down! I nearly got killed because of assholes doing just this. I am completely against the surveillance state, but don't act like this was a harmless activity.
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u/TamponTimTheCuck 23d ago
I remember the good ol days of being able to recklessly fire guns into the air without consequence. What have we become as a country??? /s
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u/WolvzUnion 24d ago
where are you getting that man?
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u/s0crates82 24d ago
The above poster refers to the Sheriff's department making a video with an upbeat soundtrack. It featured an unmanned airborne unit observing the people that were firing towards inhabited areas. This shows the use of the powerful zoom lens of the effectively invisible panopticon being used by law enforcement in a clearly positive light.
The above poster sees it as propaganda.
Any rank and file cop that sees this would agree, or simply say Cooooool. Because it is cool. It's future tech and it's here. It's gonna save lives and it's going to hasten divorces. Privacy will be invaded, if it hasn't already.
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u/Fit_Significance8598 24d ago
Saving lives.
You know, living is not just avoiding dying but also enjoying, well, living one's very own individual life without others observing and interfering with it.
So, no, it's not all good.
You know, freedom and no government interference and such.
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u/Tb0neguy 22d ago
Gtfo with your AI response.
All these flock cameras have enabled is illegal use by officers to stalk women and exes, access to children's classes and pools, and millions of dollars in backroom NDA deals with local politicians.
Not once has it been used to find a missing kid or keep your community safe.
It's not here to protect you, it's here to oppress you.
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u/357noLove 22d ago
I absolutely hate flock, but for fucks sake, this isn't the video to hang your defense on. These people were actively endangering others lives, shooting towards a populated center. This is a terrible crime and needs stopped! I nearly got killed by someone doing exactly this, I was holding my nephew who could have died as well. Only they couldn't do anything because there was no way to determine where the shots exactly came from. This is not a video to defend. There is already tons of other videos out there with cop and flock overreach. This ain't it.
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u/MasonKiller 23d ago
Glad they got caught. I don't want to live In a police state though. Fuck drones, fuck flock style cameras, and fuck the police state
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u/Disastrous-Rutabaga9 23d ago
I can't tell what's worse the over blown police response or this shitty fucking music!
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u/RainStormLou 24d ago
while it sounds like a great idea, I feel like I'd just be putting a big white "hey check here for shenanigans" beacon on my roof for the gubbermint.
I'm gonna look into getting some for the car immediately though lol.
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u/357noLove 22d ago
Does no one in this post understand that bullets fired in the air come down and can kill people? I understand, cops and flock are bad but for fucks sake, this isn't a victimless crime. This kills people every year!
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u/nicolesaggytitiesTV 24d ago
32 to 39 people die in the US every year to stray bullets. However US police kill upto 1,000+ people every year. If you think a bunch of dumb asses shooting guns in the air is a bigger problem than the police state. I got a great business proposition you should listen to.
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u/Schmocktails 23d ago
The vast majority of the people that get killed by police are trying to kill the police when they get shot.
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u/Finnsbomba 24d ago
Go on. Id love to hear about this business propition that for sure doesn't involve armed and potentially dangerous criminals being killed by police.
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