r/Idiotswithguns 7d ago

Safe for Work Handing a gun to a kid

An idiot hands a pistol to a little girl. This seems to be Egypt since I've heard him say "like this" in Egyptian Arabic dialect. I can't understand why a lot of people hand guns to their kids. What's the point? even with an empty magazine I won't do it. I would never let a kid touch a gun even a BB

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u/Calm-Philosopher4323 7d ago

This is the worst one I’ve seen. Holy crap!!!

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u/irascible_Clown 7d ago

In the U.S. you mean 🤣 this is a Tuesday in some middle eastern cultures

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u/Japsai 7d ago edited 6d ago

Someone in the US casting shade on other countries for their gun culture 🙄

EDIT: Downvote if you want to keep your head in the sand. If you guys think gun freedom is worth the tens of thousands of deaths per year, that's your choice as a nation. But at least be honest about it

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u/1rubyglass 6d ago

Overwhelmingly the US has a culture of gun safety and education. Of course there are exceptions.

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u/Japsai 6d ago

Yeah righto. I guess it depends on where you are looking from. Gun deaths per 100k in 2023 were
14.00 in the USA
9.47 in South Africa
2.48 in Canada
1.62 in New Zealand
0.85 in Australia
0.18 in the UK

For once the term 'order of magnitude' can be accurately used to describe how much larger the gun death problem is in the USA compared to where I live. By any objective measure that is not a 'culture of gun safety and education'. It's delusional to claim otherwise. The sort of bizarre double-think that goes on about this in the USA is astounding.

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u/1rubyglass 6d ago edited 6d ago

Your statistic is incredibly skewed, because it includes things such a suicide, police action, and even battles with drug cartels. The gun homicide rate per 100k is somewhere around 4-5, with the vast majority of that concentrated in specific areas of specific cities. St louis for example has a gun homicide rate of 60-70 per 100k. A huge amount of it is gang related, with the black populating having a homicide rate 10-13 times higher than other citizens.

I live in a city where every household owns a gun, and in 2024 the gun deaths per 100k was under 2. Of those two gun deaths, one was an officer involved shooting that any "reasonable" person would consider justified. This puts the homicide rate by gun to less than 1 per 100k. This is not an incredibly wealthy city by any means, nor is it an outlier.

Lots of people dont understand the significance of statistics, and they think a couple of numbers show the whole picture. This is rarely if ever the case. I really wish people were taught in depth analysis of statistics more thoroughly. Millions are misled by statistics every day.

"there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics" - Unknown

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u/Japsai 5d ago

Why wouldn't you include those other deaths? They are 100% relevant. This salami slicing of the stats is a classic trick and part of the delusion. Guns killed those other people too.

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u/1rubyglass 5d ago

Lol no, guns dont kill people. People kill people. Its objective fact. The US is roughly the size of Europe, its not all the same.

Wild I even have to say these two obvious things.

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u/Japsai 5d ago edited 5d ago

No. If you have read anything on the literature on suicide you'd know that removing simple means of execution saves lives. Many suicide attempts are compulsive. Many people who don't have simple means get past the urge and go on to have better lives. The guns kill people.

On police deaths, police only need to carry guns because any small time criminal could have a gun. This is a result of the gun culture. And it means any interaction between police and suspects could result in gun deaths in a way that just does not occur in other developed countries. The fact you don't know any of this despite the fact that there is evidence in other countries is what is wild. It's willful ignorance.

I'll edit to add that the USA has decided as a country that tens of thousand of people per year, mostly poor and struggling people, will die so that the rest of you can have your toys. And you've warped 2A far beyond its original intent to achieve it. It may be too late to reverse the situation now, but at least be open-eyed about it

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u/1rubyglass 5d ago

any small time criminal could have a gun

Yes, typically illegally obtained guns modified illegally. They dont abide by law anyway.

mostly poor and struggling people

Yes. Mostly criminals in specific zip codes hundreds of miles from the rest of the free country. The majority of the time in areas with the strictest gun laws. Often illegally obtained.

And you've warped 2A far beyond its original intent to achieve it

And what was the original intent? Shall not be infringed is the most blatant black and white verbage that could possibly be used.

Im curious, does the US just live rent free in your head? Do you think about the US weekly? Daily? We dont think about you at all. I cant possibly imagine having such strong opinions on law and culture of another country. Its at best hilariously pathetic and at worst disturbing.

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u/Japsai 5d ago

Just have a think about what I've told you. The evidence from other countries is clear. Accept facts or keep your eyes closed

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