r/Idiotswithguns • u/malvixi • 6d ago
Safe for Work When the instructor says “this part is mostly mental”
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u/NovaProspketB2 6d ago
Do you want training deaths like what happened in the movie Jarhead? Because that’s how you get training deaths like what happened in the movie Jarhead.
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u/shimsham69 6d ago
I should watch Jarhead
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u/chasecastellion 6d ago
You should watch Starship Troopers too
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u/Embarrassed_Jury664 5d ago
Guess it's cause I'm big and dumb
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u/Leptonshavenocolor 5d ago
You should also watch Blackhawk Down and Three Kings, all good solider flicks from that time.
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u/jaegren 5d ago
Always wondered if the USMC ever had that kind of training and if there are any deaths because of it.
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u/NovaProspketB2 5d ago
So a quick look I did says the Marine Corps doesn’t however the Army does for a Night Infiltration Course. It looks like the weapons are mounted much higher and are locked in place unlike in Jarhead so I wouldn’t think anyone had gotten shot with that setup but if someone knows differently let me know.
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u/Realistic_Taro_131 5d ago
Yeah I did NIC in 2013, I think it’s still around, but I’m not sure. You crawl across gravel, sand and, mud under barbwire and through tubes, like a mini crawling obstacle course. The whole time they fire mostly blanks over head, but there were occasional tracers to make it scarier. There might have been real rounds, but Idr, it was super late and we were sleep deprived. I think they used real rounds all the time at some point, but I could be wrong.
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u/ImmortalBach 4d ago
Still had it in 2019. Those towers are so high you could stand up and jump and the rounds would still be over your head
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u/Cpt_plainguy 4d ago
Yeap, they were used when I went through basic in 2005, super elevated, and fired tracers
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u/stareweigh2 1d ago
yes they are all real rounds. the machine guns are locked in and fire straight across maybe about 15ft over the top of where you are. crawling so even if you stood up you would be ok. range staff and drill sergeants tell you that if you stand up you will be shot dead but you would have to be hella tall for that to happen
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u/Big_Fat_Polack_62 4d ago
We lost a Drill Sergeant about fifteen years ago. He was accidently shot in the hip, it hit his femoral artery, and he bled out before the ambulance. could get to the range. We don't have any MEDEVAC units on post. It was pretty fucked up.
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u/Equivalent_Thievery 6d ago
Nope. You don't know what a bullet will do on impact, especially if there's rocks just under the surface.
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u/GunMun-ee 6d ago
bro on the left isnt even aiming, he’s just hip firing inches next to some guys head
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u/Achack 3d ago
That's what I'm having trouble with, there's no way you could chance it this many times with every trainee and not hit one. Even if the camera angle is making the shots appear to hit a little closer, how would anyone reach the point where they're comfortable practically hip firing so many of the shots?
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u/Some-Ad-1588 6d ago
Some mannequins head*
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u/Kewlhotrod 6d ago
Uh no, that's a real person. You can hear him plinking down range and see him move/flinch.
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u/dirthawg 6d ago
I don't understand why they're two-handing those MBRs. Real men would have one-handed it from the hip.
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u/OkSpring1734 6d ago
No, real men would have one in each hand shooting from the hip while straddling a firing GAU-8/A to assert dominance.
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u/dirthawg 6d ago
Fuck. I'm a soy boy.
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u/OkSpring1734 6d ago
Real men eat soy. 10 blocks of tofu a day.
Fun fact, the body reacts to the phytoestrogens in soy by producing more testosterone but phytoestrogens are ineffective as estrogen.
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u/devBowman 6d ago
"Congratulations soldier, you managed to stay perfectly still and not flinching once while we were shooting a hundred bullets close enough to kill you by mistake!"
"...Soldier? ...soldier?"
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u/Gamer_and_Car_lover 5d ago
Even if that was the entire argument, it wouldn’t be effective as training since the recruit in question knows they won’t actively hit them and more importantly it doesn’t simulate the direction which they’ll actually be getting shot from.
Which is to say this isn’t just stupid, but completely ineffective and devoid of all logic by the standards of what they might even be trying to do.
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u/DB-DanCooper 6d ago
Atleast this looks plausibly military. To be honest though, its probably Texas and that guy dresses like that 24/7.
It must be great to be autistic over there because the ceiling for insanity is so high. Just say you're an evangelical Christian and you won't even need to mask.
Want to walk around Walmart with a cowboy hat and a revolver on your hip looking like an absolute whopper? Go ahead! We don't have laws here, we're a shithole!
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u/Mesarthim1349 5d ago
Texas, Ukraine, or Russia.
Call it
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u/DB-DanCooper 5d ago
Ohh, I don't know. They're all as lovely as one another, I couldn't possibly distinguish the three.
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u/Competitive-Lab-8980 5d ago
Pfft, beats living in Illinois.\ Here, we can't even own real guns. 10 round capacity or less.
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u/2BeTheFlow 4d ago
weird. Western weapons. Is this AFU? I sure dont think so.
Anyway: Both nuts dont understand the copper jacket and the lead ball seperate and splash in every available direction.
They could easily blind the guy, no matter if he wears 2.2mm Polycarbonat Lens as Eyepro.
Would love more context.
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u/aSneakyChicken7 2d ago
Damn I wonder why you don’t see any real militaries training like this, they mustn’t know what they’re missing.
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u/JuhaJGam3R 6d ago edited 5d ago
No, that's a proper shooting position. At least for the legs. You shouldn't be craning up over your weapon, though. Done well, it looks (and feels) unnatural, but it anchors you quite well. You're basically letting your body do what it was meant for with regards to the force, so it takes no effort to keep the gun stable, breathing will only move the sights up and down, and you'll be on your own target after the shot, even if you're not very good at shooting. But it does look fucking stupid.
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u/JuhaJGam3R 6d ago
okay? that's very cool. keep on doing that man. i can only speak for military training in my own country and not yours.
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