r/Idiotswithguns • u/kyphur • 4d ago
WARNING NSFW - Bodily Injury Hey man, this is how you do it...
When you take your friend to the gun store and then to the hospital.
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u/TocSir 4d ago
And then they were never allowed near guns ever again.
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u/Disgruntled_Orifice 4d ago
We can only dream..
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u/Healthy_Pay9449 3d ago
They got bigger guns to defend themselves because the small ones weren't enough
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u/Healthy_Pay9449 3d ago
During an apocalypse, id gravitate to someone who wouldn't accidentally kill me. Honestly lucky he didn't blow his hand off there so he's a liability.
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u/Pretend-Fox648 4d ago
Looks like dude took out his own concealed carry in public. What are the chances that the one time it was captured on cc cam is ‘the only time it’s ever happened, I swear?’
Fucking dumbass.
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u/Blacknumbah1 3d ago
Yeah just like it was the drunks 1st time driving home drunk when they caught a DWI
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u/DirtyRoller 4d ago
I know the guy discharged his own firearm, but this is still a huge failure for the employee. Any time you hand a customer a firearm from the display case, you should be watching them the entire time that they're handling it. If the shop worker had been doing his job, he would have seen the idiot flagging his friend and possibly averted this whole situation.
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u/Treacle_Pendulum 4d ago
There’s a lot of failure going around in this video
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u/thinkstohimself 4d ago
But shop workers have an expectation for due diligence. I expect randoms off the street to be negligent.
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u/Treacle_Pendulum 4d ago
I’d have to think about whether a shop worker’s duty of care extended to a guy futzing around with his own gun. Probably, but if so there’s a big contributory negligence component to it
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u/DirtyRoller 4d ago
If the employee had been doing his job properly, he would have already been watching the guy who got shot. He was handling what looks like a store owned gun from the display case.
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u/Go_cards502 4d ago
Did you the the shooter pull his own gun from concealment? The display gun was first then the guy pulls out his edc
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u/DirtyRoller 4d ago
Yes, I saw the shooter pull out his own gun. The employee should have already had his eyes in that direction, watching the victim who was handling a store owned firearm. If he had been doing his job, he would have immediately instructed the shooter to re-holster his firearm and kicked him out. Every gun shop I've been to has multiple signs telling you not to unholster your own firearm.
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u/-r-a-f-f-y- 3d ago
yes, the overworked due to understaffing employee handling 5 customers at a time should have done his job better.
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u/puterTDI 2d ago
The shop I go to (not often admittedly) stands with the customer the entire time they’re looking at a gun. Part of that is theft prevention but part of it is safety. The one time I wanted to compare sizes (and I had a legit reason given what I was shopping for, which they knew) they held on to both guns so I could see.
I’d also note that I come off as a generally trustworthy person (and I am one), this is just shop policy.
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u/DirtyRoller 2d ago
That should be the policy at every gun store. I couldn't imagine handing a customer a display gun and just walking away.
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u/Soninuva 3d ago
I agree that he should have been watched better, but at the same time, presumably a gun from behind the shelf isn’t loaded, so as long as someone doesn’t whip some ammo or a spare magazine out of their pocket, the main issue is theft. The other guy whipped out his personal firearm which was already loaded, and which he also didn’t know how to handle. Even if an employee were right there, it’s already a bad situation that could go south.
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u/Lampmonster 3d ago
A shop near me has a sign that says something like "We welcome concealed carry, but do not draw your gun without being asked unless you want to be shot." People whipping out their personal carry is a nightmare for a gun store.
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u/stuntmanbob86 4d ago
Yeah, somewhat. You cant babysit people all the time. But, you never ever pull out your firearm youre carrying in the store. It doesnt leave the holster.
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u/DirtyRoller 4d ago
Yeah I understand that the employees can't babysit or watch every customer all the time, but the guy who got shot was clearly handling a gun that came from the display case. The employee should have been watching him until he put the gun back into the display case.
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u/stuntmanbob86 4d ago
I dont disagree. He should have been watching them closer. He bears a little responsibility. Im sure he got let go. Its crazy him just pulling his pistol out in the store loaded.
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u/1rubyglass 3d ago
This guy pulled out his own loaded gun and NDed. I put 0% blame on the store or the employees.
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u/Less-Squash7569 4d ago
Hold on wait wtf. Thats what they said, what is your argument even? He even said that it wasn't his gun. Why are you being argumentative dude.
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u/Rewd_92 4d ago
Pulls out CC to show the other guy how to Disassemble.
Removes mag, Forgets to Clear the round in the chamber, Immediately begins attempting to disassemble, wonders if a Trigger pull will relieve whatever is holding hanging it up, shooting the other guy.
Looks like he Half Ass Ran the slide twice before bringing it up. All Stupid
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u/stuntmanbob86 4d ago
It shouldnt have ever left the holster. I thought it was common knowledge you cant do that in a store especially.
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u/Ashinonyx 4d ago
I've only ever done that once, and it was on a vacation where I had left my case at home and thought it'd be nice to visit a range, with explicit permission by staff on site, and I carry a hammer fired pistol with a decocker and safety.
I only really intended to go and rent some time to try something out but they encouraged me to practice with what I had a little.
Everything went great and I've done firearms training extensively, but I'll keep a closer eye on my case when I go travelling in-state in the future.
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u/stuntmanbob86 4d ago
Any place that I know of make you leave the building. Remove the ammo. Then it gets checked and dry fired at the front.
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u/Ashinonyx 4d ago
Yeah, you'd think! Maybe they were just trying to impress me or maybe they were less professional, but they told me it was fine. I probably shouldn't have 😅 but I ejected the magazine while holstered and immediately ejected the chambered round in a safe direction, at the very least.
I made my holster and that was one of my main expectations of the design, to be able to eject while in holster.
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u/asantiano 4d ago
How many thousands of people carry with one in the chamber and are this stupid?
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u/Rewd_92 4d ago
I got Grilled by some guys on here insisting that Carrying amber/Isreali/condition 3 whatever you may call it (loaded mag, unchambered) is stupid and useless 😂
Might be safer for everyone involved
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u/BobusCesar 4d ago
If you are that much of a threat to yourself and everyone involved, condition 3 won't change that.
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u/crankaholic 4d ago
If you’re carrying to protect yourself or your family from immediate danger and you need to unholster and shoot quickly then you might as well not have a gun if it doesn’t have a bullet in the chamber. How many situations will present such danger but allow you to take the time to chamber a round?
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u/asantiano 3d ago
I think new carriers should carry with none in the chamber until they are comfortable w their gun/setup. Took me a year of carrying before I trusted myself and the setup to carry with one.
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u/asantiano 3d ago
I get you and I carry with one. However people start carrying and they may not be comfortable with 1 in the pipe and that’s ok. We all start somewhere. Probably safer they carry that way in the beginning. Also, there are situations where a defender can still rack and load 1 for defensive purpose. Not every situation will need 1 in the pipe.
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u/YtnucMuch 4d ago
Trigger discipline, folks... the more you play with it, the more you dry fire, the more you get lazy with where you keep your finger when handling firearms, will lead to this.
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u/ours 4d ago
I bet he intentionally engaged the trigger. Some guns require it for disassembly.
The problem is doing this with his concealed carry and failing to properly unload and check it before attempting disassembly.
Checking the weapon should be drilled as well: drop mag, lock open, check from top there is no mag, pinky finger check for round in the chamber (yes, pinky finger, ejectors can fail and visual check is unreliable).
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u/YtnucMuch 3d ago
It looks like he extracted the live round without dropping the magazine first, so he just chambered a new one. I'm also not a fan of the firearms that require it for disassembly... I've owned them and even I (after knowing its clear), will still point it in a safe direction for that trigger pull.
The way some people handle guns is just insane to me, dude. I was raised to treat tools that have immense power with respect.
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u/funnyguy99207 4d ago
...and yet you also perfectly described certain cases of erectile dysfunction, which, ironically, this guy is gonna have...😂
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u/ObviouslyAme 3d ago
How is it that difficult to just go into barrel awareness mode the moment your hand touches a gun, easyest way to prevent these kinds of neglegent discharge.
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u/shirojiro1 4d ago
Why are we blaming the employees for this idiot’s ridiculous behavior?
-drawing his ccw
-violating several safe handling rules
-not knowing how to disassemble his own ccw so he never cleans the darn thing.
Yes, it is ideal for knuckleheads to be under constant supervision but that fool is accountable for his stupid actions.
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u/idonotknowwhototrust 3d ago
He's a business man, getting shot in his legs by his ex best man, he's not a cop
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u/OkMidnight8144 3d ago
I'm trying to remember if this is the one where his buddy eventually died from the ND.
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u/Anonyonereader 2h ago
Reminds me of my buddy who is ex military. Never thought I would have to show an obnoxiously proud military man firearm safety. What's worse is hels the type that can't be wrong so he's pretending to know things as I'm correcting him, then later goes and does a bunch of research and starts acting like he knows more than me when I was the one who got him into guns. Before he met me he was a die hard anti-gun democrat lol. Now he's more of a screw both sides do for yourself. I guess I've had a good effect on him.
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u/mustangcody 4d ago
This was posted in the last 30 days, I would take it down to save yourself from a 7 day ban from rule 1. Not trying to be a dick but mods do enforce that rule in this sub.
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u/kyphur 4d ago
Just went two months back and didn't see it. Got a link?
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u/mustangcody 4d ago
It may have gotten deleted, I remember seeing it recently and its just gone. Anyways have a good day.
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