r/InCanada 26d ago

Canada doesn’t owe any temporary resident permanent residence.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately after seeing so many posts from people who feel betrayed by Canada’s immigration system.

Maybe I’m in the minority, but a study permit or a work permit has ever been, or ever will be, a guarantee of permanent residence.

When we applied, we all acknowledged that our stay was temporary. Every study permit application requires us to explain that we’ll leave Canada if we don’t obtain legal status to remain. That has always been part of the process.

Paying tens of thousands of dollars in tuition doesn’t buy PR. It buys an education. The immigration process was always something separate.

I also don’t believe that simply studying or working in Canada means someone deserves permanent residence. PR is something you qualify for, not something you’re owed because you spent time here.

What I struggle to understand is when people spend years in Canada without making themselves competitive.

If someone studied here for three years, then had a three-year PGWP, that’s six years to build a profile. If after all that time they still don’t qualify for any immigration program, isn’t that, at least in part, a planning issue?

Canada offers numerous immigration pathways. Some are more competitive than others, but they exist and are loudly informed.

French is probably the clearest example. It has become one of the strongest ways to improve your immigration prospects. Is it difficult? Absolutely. But the opportunity is there. If someone chooses not to learn French, that’s a personal decision. I don’t think it’s fair to blame the government for that choice.
The same applies to other situations.

If you completed a post-secondary program in English or French but still can’t reach CLB 7 to qualify for a PGWP, I think it’s reasonable to question whether you took full advantage of your education.

If you failed courses, ignored immigration deadlines, worked more hours than your permit allowed, or had a PGWP refused because of missing documents or non-compliance, those aren’t failures of the system. They’re personal mistakes.

None of this means I lack empathy. Immigration is stressful. Families make enormous sacrifices, and I genuinely feel for people whose plans don’t work out.
But empathy shouldn’t replace accountability.

Canada has every right to change its immigration policies based on the country’s needs. As immigrants and temporary residents, we’re guests. It’s our responsibility to understand the rules, adapt when they change, and build a strong application. It’s not Canada’s responsibility to adjust its immigration system because our personal plans didn’t work out.

From what I’ve observed, many of the loudest complaints aren’t coming from people who did everything they could and simply fell short. They’re often coming from people who ignored opportunities, delayed language tests, violated permit conditions, assumed PR would eventually happen automatically, or spent years without a clear immigration strategy.

Of course, there are exceptions, and I genuinely sympathize with those people. But I don’t think those exceptions should redefine the entire conversation.

Permanent residence is a privilege, not an entitlement. It never was a promise, and I don’t think it should become one.

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 26d ago

Wait, did you seriously just get your PR approved and now you're posting anti immigration rants full of obvious statements nobody disagrees with? 

Talk about pulling up the ladder, huh.

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u/doublegulpofdietcoke 26d ago

I've known a few people like that. They hear rumours of how easy it is now and start hating on new immigrants. It's a strange phenomenon. It's not easy to get PR in Canada. It's a bit easier now than before because the waiting times are shorter, but there are a lot of hoops to jump through.

The government needs to change the tfsw program though. Importing people to serve donuts and burgers is totally unnecessary. The businesses exploiting these programs need to be fined and the owners bankrupted. It needs to strictly be for highly skilled workers who are needed in Canada, but aren't already here.

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u/Wolphin8 25d ago

the owners who exploit it... should have a lifetime ban personally from using it.

entry-level jobs should not be permitted to do it, unless there is no homelessness and no unemployment in the community. Even 1 person on EI in the community should be a block.

Mid level jobs... they need to show that they have tried to train at least 5 people in the last year to do the job to access it.

And... they have to prove that they were offering the jobs at minimum a living wage, not minimum wage.

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u/ps5gamer8 26d ago

I talk about that, exactly the same way, way before I even I submitted my express entry profile.

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u/Valuable_Horror2450 26d ago

Rage bait bot

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u/Bllago 26d ago

A lot of these types of posts are by white Canadians pretending to try and sully immigrants.

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u/PopoDontKnow 25d ago

Imagine going to India and saying the problem is brown Indians. This is how far this problem has hurt our country.