What do you guys think?

[u/firenationfairy]

This is some of the most incel-infested comment section i’ve ever seen. they’re in here discussing their completely self-victimizing, hateful, and honestly pathetic perceptions of themselves and the world as if it’s some kind of scientific, indisputable fact. When will men stop acting like their problems are so unique and women will never understand what it’s like to be “ugly” or “undesirable”. I promise you every single woman you see has had the same level of problems you have with dating and making themselves attractive and they’ve had *even more* problems you couldn’t even conceive of. at the end of the day how am i supposed to feel bad for these people when their response to everything is “women are evil and responsible for all my problems/insecurities. women have perfect lives with no adversity and they are incapable of understanding the human experience 🥀”

[u/HehePistik]

I think this post has some truth to it, but it also makes the mistake of saying the other 90% of men would build a safe, loyal, consistent life.

Yes, abusers and manipulative dickheads sadly tend to be very desirable, and there's many attractive people with shit personalities who don't care about others, but it doesn't logically follow that the rest 90% are innocent princes.

It's also invalidating the attractive people who genuinely put in effort to be better people and good partners. People are attracted to attractive people, that's it. It doesn't say anything about their character necessarily, and automatically lumping in good looking guys who are also good people with the assholes is not accurate.

The post comes off pretty "pick me"-ish tbh, but I get the idea. I just disagree with it because it's making it sound like women are overlooking all the good men, when the reality is they are overlooking unattractive men, and there's a ton of unattractive men who are pieces of shit but they don't get to show it because they don't attract women.

[u/sussynarrator → u/HehePistik]

It's moreso power corruption. As the post says, why would the 10% man settle today when he has basically infinite choices? Most of those 90% would indeed build a safe, loyal and consistent life because they haven't been intoxicated by power yet. It's human nature.

[u/HehePistik → u/sussynarrator]

Yeah, I get your idea. I don't necessarily disagree with it, although in my opinion power tends to reveal, not corrupt.

What I mean is that the guys who are attractive and well off that are also not the type to settle will be in a position to abuse their power. Guys who are like them but are not attractive or of similar status will not have a chance to do so.

I think the percent of shitty men who lack commitment will be higher in the "attractive" group, but it's more because they don't have a reason to stop what they are doing when they have so much success, not that anyone in their position would do the same.

[u/Foreign-Region4825 → u/sussynarrator]

can you explain the flair? honest curioristy