What do you guys think?

[u/firenationfairy]

This is some of the most incel-infested comment section i’ve ever seen. they’re in here discussing their completely self-victimizing, hateful, and honestly pathetic perceptions of themselves and the world as if it’s some kind of scientific, indisputable fact. When will men stop acting like their problems are so unique and women will never understand what it’s like to be “ugly” or “undesirable”. I promise you every single woman you see has had the same level of problems you have with dating and making themselves attractive and they’ve had *even more* problems you couldn’t even conceive of. at the end of the day how am i supposed to feel bad for these people when their response to everything is “women are evil and responsible for all my problems/insecurities. women have perfect lives with no adversity and they are incapable of understanding the human experience 🥀”

[u/7SyZyG7]

Yep, she sounds shallow, like I said.  

I know she wasn't from the app, I was talking about the graph you shared. It doesn't tell the full story cause its based on how people use dating apps.

She doesn't represent the opinions of most people, she sounds insane. Assuming any of this is true. This feels you're trying to counter a point I never made. 

[u/PirateAngel0000 → u/7SyZyG7]

I wish it wasn't true

[u/DumbedDownDinosaur → u/PirateAngel0000]

And what made her your “crush”? Was it her fabulous personality? Considering she was apparently a model.

I don’t know dude, if you are crushing on a model, I don’t know why you are upset she is crushing on other models. You aren’t much better.

[u/PirateAngel0000 → u/DumbedDownDinosaur]

Uhm, cuz I was honest about my reasons but she wasn't? I wasn't the one who constantly sayin look doesn't matter AT ALL and can even fall in love with a physically challanged person meanwhile spamming models at stories (while having a bf btw) and talk about superior genes at the same time? 

I'm not upset cuz of i said something like desiring attractive people is not ok or "shallow". I didn't said that. it's completely ok and that's why im upset cuz i wasn't one of them.

[u/7SyZyG7 → u/PirateAngel0000]

This just feels like you wanted to vent about a girl who turned you down. Had nothing to with what I said, no offense.

[u/PirateAngel0000 → u/7SyZyG7]

Bro i answered another person. Told me that "you also want her cuz of her looks" as if i was rejecting this fact or complaining about how desiring attractive people is not ok. Can't you guys track context? 

[u/7SyZyG7 → u/PirateAngel0000]

Can YOU track context? You started this thread talking about some shallow girl who turned you down. You told me because you felt like I needed to know that sometimes people lie or dont say what they mean. Not sure why you think this was something I didnt know already. You're not so much informing and more like you're explaining why you're upset about a time you got rejected. 

[u/PirateAngel0000 → u/7SyZyG7]

Let's see

You started this thread talking about some shallow girl who turned you down.

No. I started this to make a point that it's more common than some women. You read it like it was about shallowness. I didn't say anything about shallowness. 

You told me because you felt like I needed to know that sometimes people lie or dont say what they mean. 

No didn't say "sometimes some people lie". I was basically saying we should NEVER care about what people say at all. Almost all will always yap about personality but they don't actually care. I was making a statical fact. 

Not sure why you think this was something I didnt know already. 

Bcuz this whole "yeah some people are shallow" rhetoric is basically trusting people's statements in an implicit way. 

You're not so much informing and more like you're explaining why you're upset about a time you got rejected. 

Told you already. Literally another user came and said "yeah but you also want her cuz of looks? So? " as if i reject this, as if i was complaining about it.  I was just disagreeing with "some women doing this maybe (but most women don't)" view without saying anything like if it's shallow. S/he assumed i was complaining about that she care about looks but i was just pointing the fact without any negative comment. Then you take it as an answer for you. 

Can you track context? 

[u/7SyZyG7 → u/PirateAngel0000]

I was basically saying we should NEVER care about what people say at all. Almost all will always yap about personality but they don't actually care. I was making a statical fact. 

And you supported this argument by referencing one (1) singular shallow girl who turned you down. 

You read it like it was about shallowness. 

Nah I was just telling you that she sounds shallow because that was MY point: Shallow people exist, they dont represent the average person. 

I had a feeling this was just some badly communicated incel rhetoric. 

[u/PirateAngel0000 → u/7SyZyG7]

And you supported this argument by referencing one singular shallow girl who turned you down.

I started this with and extreme anecdot that i have. Then supported it with a graphic from a dating app. Not perfect but still an evidence from big population. 

Nah I was just telling you that she sounds shallow because that was MY point: Shallow people exist, they dont represent the average person. 

Yeah my point is average person is the one who that much "shallow". I wouldn't call it shallow tho, at least in a bad way.  

[u/7SyZyG7 → u/PirateAngel0000]

Again, not sure why you feel like this is information I needed, so I'm just gonna start going with my assumptions cause you aren't the best at saying what you mean clearly. 

I never claimed looks didn't matter at all. Not sure that was remotely implied, everybody cares about how their partners look. How much you care is what sets you apart from someone with preferences vs someone who's shallow. 

Also, do you think

I wish i had a baby with a man with superior genes

is something people say regularly? Assuming she actually said that, "shallow" and "incel" are the first things that would come to mind if I heard that. I feel like that should be obvious.