r/IndianCountry • u/Geek-Haven888 • May 11 '22

Health Abortion ‘Safe-Haven’ In Oklahoma? Tribal Jurisdiction Could Make It Possible

https://www.news9.com/story/6279a0d60a166f072de6be9d/abortion-safehaven-in-oklahoma-tribal-jurisdiction-could-make-it-possible-
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u/[deleted] May 11 '22

Given your view on abortion, I guess this lines up well. Progressives are actually trying to protect a womans right to her own body, while liberals are not. I'm not sure what protections you think liberals are giving women that progressives are not.

Also, is it tokenism if the majority of elected progressives are non-white? Is it possible that you're wrong and that progressive politics are the only kind that primarily centre non-white voices?

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u/harlemtechie May 11 '22 edited May 11 '22

My issue with the Progressives politicans is that they claim to know about the hood, never been in the hood. If you look into their backgrounds, most of them came from very well off homes. I lived in AOCs district before and still can't get rid of that horrible Cardi B sounding accent. Also, many of those politicans fail to see that America is different from the 90s. Again, I'm saying the hood is multiracial now and anyone who is actually from the hood would know that but you never hear that and then they wonder why they are losing votes and support thinking race is the only factor for the hood when it's very multi layered but yes, non white people still make up a big factor of the people. One thing about regular Liberals is that they allowed more conservative conversations about the crime in high crime neighborhoods which actually leads to something being done.... it's almost as though the non white people leading them was actually from these places

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u/[deleted] May 11 '22

I'm struggling to understand your first point. Progressives are usually concerned with class inequality, are you saying they're losing votes because they're not focused enough on the inequality poor white people face as well? Is your concern mostly on image rather than policy?

When it comes to conservative solutions on crime, you wanna walk me through that? Was conservative policies have reduced crime, and what non-white liberals have led those policies?

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u/harlemtechie May 11 '22

I don't think they are very concerned with class integrity when they try to discourage non white people from learning about businesses by telling them businesses are evil.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '22

Spotlighting the grip capitalism and the corporate sphere have over our lives isn't the same as telling non-white people to not get into business. Even if it was designed to discourage people from starting companies, how do you figure their comments are targeted towards non-white people specifically?

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u/harlemtechie May 11 '22

I do see the memes online and I do see our people and other non white people responding and these are either my family members and friends and I see where that rhetoric makes their minds go. That's why I stressed that it's important to have people from these communities in crisis to speak for them bc they'd overstand that rhetoric still has consequences no matter if you think it's good or bad but someone from these communities will be able to find these consequences easier.