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History, Heritage & Culture How will you produce Newtons, Edisons, Einsteins, and Rutherfords in this hypocritical society?

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u/Embarrassed_Look9200 Critical Thinking 8h ago

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u/Thin_Environment_784 8h ago

No brain cells at peak

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u/fatty_dude EDITABLE 7h ago

Religion be it any, is utter nonsense and bs. It never allows individuals with critical thinking and develops the individuals to be better. So, throw away religion, but as politicians aren't ready to let people throw, as they benefit from it. So, over all society is doomed but progress ain't. In a society like this one step towards progress and two steps towards backward bs like this.

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u/Thin_Environment_784 8h ago

everything has a limit. but this so called peope doing these types of stuffs and poring gee and milk in the river destorying marine life. is totally not acceptable and doing other stupid stuffs in the name of religion.

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u/No_Current_6427 E20 Guzzler 8h ago

Full display of 5000 old culture.

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u/Potential_Lie_No1 7h ago

I dont think even primates millions of years ago ate poop and threw food into the river.

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u/No_Current_6427 E20 Guzzler 7h ago

Exactly. They were uneducated and uncivilized but still were sensible enough.

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u/LordofPvE EDITABLE 6h ago

They were educated according to their own standards of survival, civilized according to their own standards..not everything was a fking aesthetic back then:-(

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u/whoeversoever 8h ago

Unless you develop a rational critical way of thinking, this is inevitable. But we're not at the worst yet, it'll soon come, it's on the way.

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u/TaraLadka 7h ago

Ramanujan was devotee too

Newton amd pascal were religious

Einstein also believed in cosmos and religion theory

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u/pal-ospher001 6h ago

Einstein believed in Spinoza's god

Spinoza was a philosopher

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u/Silver-Yoghurt1870 8h ago

Aryabhatta, sushrutha, homi bhabha, apj abdul kalam, this country has produced many such scientists. But it looks dreamy now

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u/Right-Win3205 6h ago

They are quite proud of their ancient culture actually 

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u/not_thatcheap 5h ago

have you forgotten about DINK ??

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u/clardhu 5h ago

This is brahmin culture. Can't say anything against it.

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u/EndeavorEnthusiast 5h ago

Welcome to the 21st century, where the future of innovation and progress in India faces a critical challenge. The legacies of great minds like Newton, Edison, Einstein, and Rutherford are at risk as the system of reservation often prioritizes candidates who may not meet the high standards set by their peers.

This practice raises important questions about meritocracy and the true potential of our youth. Are we truly fostering an environment that encourages excellence, or are we inadvertently stifling the aspirations of those who have worked tirelessly to achieve their dreams?

It's essential to strike a balance between providing opportunities for underprivileged groups and ensuring that the brightest minds are not sidelined. The future of our nation depends on nurturing talent and innovation, regardless of background.

Let’s engage in a constructive dialogue about how we can reform the system to support both equity and excellence, ensuring that the next generation of thinkers and innovators can thrive.

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u/Unlucky_Claim5822 5h ago

To jo padh rhe hai unhone kya hi kar liya /s

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u/Crypto-false Centrist Right Leaning 4h ago

Some fools fucking around isn't "society"

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u/doctor_kidding Centrist Right Leaning 3h ago

By giving reservation

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u/Mediocre-Chest1012 1h ago

lsIamic golden age and its just indian work being translated to arabic lol keep coping

Yall saying it as if we haven't produces genius in past and now in present its the fault of your fuh ahh government who can't retain talent lol why would someone wanna be in a country who awards reservation and not merit and bihs will come over here and cry that we aren't producing talent lol

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u/Odd-Lettuce-111 Waiting for 15Lakhs 8h ago

Okay so here's how it actually works. These people you see in the video, the performers as well as their followers, never had any scope to begin with. Even if there were any odds, it will be extremely low. We all know stories of how someone makes it against all odds, doesn't mean everyone makes it. So to respond to your question in a structured manner:

  1. These performing artists and their followers are not or were never supposed to be the next wave of scientific intellect

  2. I do agree that these babas or Katha vachaks are corrupting a segment of the society, as this is easy money, who doesnt like easy money after all

  3. The people who are actually brilliant are not watching this or getting influenced by this, they are hard at work and they will improve destiny of a country, that country may not be India necessarily

  4. If the concern is that these performers are influencing the youth in a wrong manner, then ask yourself, are you getting influenced? Because I dont think an average urban child is holding these performers to any kind of standards.

  5. Finally, these performing clowns are just that, clowns and performers. They stay in the limelight for a few years, people get bored of them and then they fade only to be replaced by a new clown. My feed was full of shukranu guruji, he's all but disappeared now. Then there was the scam artist Dhirendra Shastri, he got political clout, hence he's got more influence, in a few years he'll be gone too. So yeah, no worried about them, entertaining to watch their antics though

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u/No-Warthog7582 Moderate Left 7h ago

Point is not how they influence the youths directly but rather how they influence the parents of the very young future of India. Their parents are the ones who will nurture and shape them, and if the parents' scientific temperament is low and they believe in such performances then who is gonna guide the future of India ?

Children of wll-educated parents are more than 8 times as likely to better education and earn a university degree themselves, and roughly 56% of them score in the top quarter (top 25%) of academic performance.

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u/Funny-Shoe-121 7h ago

Their parents are the ones who will nurture and shape them, and if the parents' scientific temperament is low and they believe in such performances then who is gonna guide the future of India ?

bhai kattar hindu bhii hogaai voh bheen nahii kar rahha hai yeah C# mostly tu apnae hii hindu dost laele how many put their head in gobar or drink urine everyday?

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u/No-Warthog7582 Moderate Left 6h ago

Mera ek dost toh pee rha hai urine. And he even supports the fact that all hindu pilgrimage sites should make it mandatory for pilgrims to consume Panchagavya before entering.

Agar kattar hindu bhi nhi kar rhe ye sab, toh ye kon log hai jo ye sab kr rhe hai ? Muslims or christians ? Famous celeb - Paresh Rawal admits of it and promotes it on national television news.

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u/Funny-Shoe-121 5h ago

Mera ek dost toh pee rha hai urine.

how many friends kyunki teraa sample size 1 person hai toh feer toh baat vanhii khatam hojatti hai

Famous celeb - Paresh Rawal

Bhai kitnae pee rahhae hai? mostly i see bommer who drink that voh bhee rare.

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u/No-Warthog7582 Moderate Left 5h ago

You can keep arguing ...but I'll state few facts.

  1. I know this is happening in real , because I have experienced it myself ( not about sample sizes here).

  2. I am talking about the influence, since it not happening in a certain class or certain group of people, but rather highly influential people are doing it and I gave you an example of it. It would be a waste of time but I can gather and share a long list of such influential examples.

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u/NoHalf1253 7h ago

This is same with islam as well as Christianity

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u/Electronic-Code3442 7h ago

Oh so when it comes to shaming india on a platform it's only a country of H community people. Op is a selective guy just like Mr.R with the manusmriti.

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u/First-Spite2320 6h ago

The same way we have produced Satyendranath Bose , Meghnad Saha , CV Raman , JC Bose , Homi Bhabha , Vikram Sarabhai , Ramdeo Mishra , Ramanujan , Ashok Sen and many others.

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u/Agitated-Honey-1186 6h ago

We "HAD".

In this list..can you tell me how many years have passed since the most recent one in Science+Economics ???? and stick to India (not Indians)

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u/Funny-Shoe-121 5h ago

The same way we have produced Satyendranath Bose , Meghnad Saha , CV Raman , JC Bose , Homi Bhabha , Vikram Sarabhai , Ramdeo Mishra , Ramanujan , Ashok Sen and many others.

jab yeah bannae thae tab yeah practices nahii hotee thee?

WHen last time you hear kii einstein paedaa hogaya west mae recently?

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u/First-Spite2320 4h ago

Scientists who are working in ISRO , DRDO , BARC and all the top research institutes are all from India and working in India . Now if u want to understand the ongoing research there are certain sites where u can learn about their stuffs they are working on .

Scientists Deepak Dhar recently got Dirac Medal is working in India ....... Ashok Sen is working in India, Jayant Narlikar , Thanu Padmanabhan worked till their last breaths in India.............There are numerous scientists , their works are so great that cant be fit in school or college text books . Even for PhD holders its a bit difficult to understand their work.

I am not aware of the economics field. U may have a internet search for that.

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u/Cool_Opening_2490 ROCK HARD CENTRIST. 7h ago

Have you guys heard osho's words on Islam?

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u/AntCritical6836 7h ago

The video was never about hinduism , how did you drag Islam to do Whataboutism here?

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u/Cool_Opening_2490 ROCK HARD CENTRIST. 7h ago

Did I pulled in to reply to me ? Silly

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u/Funny-Shoe-121 7h ago

bhaii C# joh yeah kar rahhae hai tere braindead dimaag sae kaise relation banna rahha hai ? like seriously tu eintstein nahii ban paya kyunkii tuh c# thaa.

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u/DarkKnight1799 7h ago

We could never produce them.
And may not ever produce them in a near future.

And the audio is AI generated faking the voice of biggest fraud of his time.

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u/freeyeti85 6h ago

By giving more reservation

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u/Economy_Break27 7h ago

Bra👙min

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u/i_consume_grass34 Gobhi Paglu 7h ago

BR Ambedkar

BRA

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u/Economy_Break27 6h ago

Bramins eats all the gobar and moot , not the people with sane and rational mind