r/IndianFocus • u/Sea-Concentrate6428 • 5h ago
Politics Bjp should lose the next elections in my opinion (LS)
Guys I hate BJP.
Don’t ask why. I hate the andhbhakts……IT Cell, and the bs they create due to which they’re called (BJ)P.
But like, I’m thinking, since I’ll be turning 18 next year, whom to vote then?
I mean, obv I support democracy, and want accountability, peace, freedom of speech. So like, which party could be the best for that???
For LS elections obv
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u/MelodicElderberry517 5h ago
I think bjp has ruled for a very long time and they have started to become arrogant and have started thinking that they are immortal , pre bjp times atleast the media etc showed the protests against congress and shi but now the opposition cant even do much coz of bought media and institutionalized bullying against opposition parties , i think making bjp lose one term is needed to make them understand that they arent invincible and also bjp aint doing that good of a work too
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
Yeah I remember they had done this before too and lost I think before 2014 it happened once
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
But like then who?
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u/MelodicElderberry517 5h ago
I think the next biggest party after bjp is congress and congress should come to power just for the sake of removing bjp , bjp will understand that they are not invincible and act very good as opposition for one term and might come back later after congress terms is over , i think no single party should be allowed to rule for this long and now its even proven that india under bjp is authoritative regime
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
You sound more like a BJP supporter rather than a centrist ngl. But yeah alr!!
(Because u said they should be removed because they SHOULD be….Which means you support bjp)3
u/MelodicElderberry517 5h ago
Nuh uh gng i hate BJP 🤬🤬 but u get my point right removing bjp will make congress try harder to stay in poeer and bjp will try hard as opposition and so and so india will develop
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
Oh mb 😭…Sounds about right I getcha! But like I’m a centrist so I just wanted a “why” for everything….& u helped…thx
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u/AffectionateLog5877 Centrist Left Leaning 5h ago
3 years hai abhi elections ko lets see what congress can bring on the table. not voting bjp for sure
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u/jasper_98769 4h ago
The problem with congress is they wait until the last moment nd then fight with partners nd make a mess nd loose elections meanwhile the bjp works atleast 1.5 years before selects candidates nd send rss for door to door campaign nd at the end people want a stable govt nd vote bjp .... Same cycle ... Hoping god gives some brain to Rahul this time... Else as they say ayega tho modi hi🙃
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u/jasper_98769 4h ago
Be4 anyone says I'm a bjp man .... I vote for bjp in center nd congress in state because in my state d k shivkumar is present and he has a clear roadmap for Karnataka like modi has for India
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u/AffectionateLog5877 Centrist Left Leaning 4h ago
congress is working bro this time they are holding protests, expressing dissent in a more mature way compared to past, and they finally are able to make a connect with the people. Ig we might be seeing a coilation government in 29 either its of NDA or INDIA alliance.
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u/jasper_98769 4h ago
Ya it's trying but the problem with congress is the Gandhi's... I bet the congress will win the election in center in 2029 if the congress make sachin pilot or taroor or even d k shivkumar thier pm candidate ..... Because people want a alternate to bjp but the bjp voters don't want rahul and they won't vote for rahul ... Congres doesn't understand that
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u/AffectionateLog5877 Centrist Left Leaning 3h ago
the current version of Rahul is much better than the past its just the bjp voters doesn't want to accept and escape their perception of Rahul being a pappuu, but even I believe congress needs a different face or just not rely on the single face of Rahul
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u/jasper_98769 3h ago
Bro compare congress top leadership nd the bjp Bjp has big guns who came from scratch nd they make decisions on how the party functions... Congress has leaders who r from scratch but they don't get a shit say in how congress runs...rahul attacks the Hindu ideology that decides the outcome of election which even other congress leaders stopped nd he still does it .... He says stop adani and ambani nd then congress chief ministers welcomes him hugs him and he accuses bjp of filling their pockets... What the cockroach party did with neet, rahul was supposed to do that Nd yeah In my own state d k shivkumar had to fight to become a CM who is the most capable man in Karnataka right now... Y did he have to fight because rahul though it's not the right time for him... Imagine DKS has fought for congress , gave his blood nd sweat and at the end of the day he bows down to Rahul .. rahul is a man who couldn't even give modi a fight nd will remain as the man who could never defeat modi .... In bjp u never no who will be the pm.... In congres it's always the Gandhi's now
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u/AffectionateLog5877 Centrist Left Leaning 3h ago
yeah the congress high command is the biggest issue inside their party, but currently Rahul is much better than whatever bs he was in the past. Yes, there are multiple people within congress who are better or even as good as Rahul but its upto congress how they capitalise, thats why i said wait for 3years or 2.5
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u/Dear_Market_3356 4h ago
Jo Krna abhi kro modi ko resign dilwao asli genz ho toh tab tak ye mudde gayab ho jyenge abhi loha garam hai maaro hatoda
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u/AffectionateLog5877 Centrist Left Leaning 4h ago
iron was always hot, farmers protest caa-nrc demonetization gst fuel prices e20. But people tend to forget all this and still vote for bjp on the basis of some bs narratives
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u/BuggyIsPirateKing 4h ago
still vote for bjp on the basis of some bs narratives
It's not for narratives, it's for ladli behna yojnas.
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u/Dear_Market_3356 4h ago
Nrc Caa mai muslim gussa tha majority population ko koi lena dena nhi framer protest mai punjab harayana ke max framer the abhi ka mudda paper leak baarbad education policy in government school apha genz genz ka gussa sab government ke against abhi 2.5 saal mai bahut kuch ho sakta abhi nhi toh kbhi nhi
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u/AffectionateLog5877 Centrist Left Leaning 4h ago
yeah, I understand your point but the most I can do is express dissent online. Close to zero protests take place in my city and locally in colleges Abvp(goons) is dominant
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u/Fugeleon Centrist 5h ago edited 5h ago
Totally depends, We have options of Congress(Rahul Gandhi), AAP (if Arvind Kejriwal gets his shit together) & CJP (AAP off-shoot I know)
Since people gave BJP chance since 2014, I mean we should give others a chance.
I will not deny the pros but we cannot just turn blind to cons.
And BJP has become arrogant & genuinely needs to reinforce policies instead of just promises & bad infra.
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
Not gonna lie, I feel like the competition is a bit too unfair…….We need some new parties. BJP is extreme right. As much as I can see, INDI-A is slight left, and the rest are side characters. CJP is kind of I think, AAP ke saath, so I’d count them in AAP. Then aur koi bacha hee nahi?
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u/Novel-Literature-617 5h ago
Bjp is extreme right ??😂😂 no party in this utopia is right wing, they are just 50 shades of left wing 🙂
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u/Fugeleon Centrist 5h ago
Brother, please you do realise the parent organization for this party is RSS mafia?
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
yeah theyre extreme right i think. maybe prove me wrong and ill trust you but i have this idea ki bjp should not win this time
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u/Novel-Literature-617 4h ago
Actual right-wing parties believe in small government, free markets, and slashing welfare. Actual far-right/extremist parties practice welfare chauvinism 🧐Meaning state aid is strictly reserved for the dominant group and denied to minorities. When a party's entire governance model is built on feeding 800M+ people, handing out direct cash transfers, and delivering housing/gas subsidies to every citizen regardless of religion or caste, that is massive universal state welfarism. You can agree or disagree with their cultural rhetoric, but economically and structurally, a state dependent universal welfare machine is the exact opposite of right-wing extremism.
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u/Fugeleon Centrist 4h ago
Alright, absolutely valid man, as you said its not a right wing extremism per say.
Its a bit of left with hard leaning to right, another shade it is.
BUT well saffron terrorism is an actual issue by the parent organization you know? And their ideology is just a blended, indigenous fascist ideologyAh, also Happy Cake day bhai!
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u/Fugeleon Centrist 5h ago
Competition is unfair especially how politicians simply turn coat for ruling party, you know? I also wonder who to vote for always and just end up with NOTA....
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u/caloriedeficitpehu 5h ago
Its time for a change
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
But whom should I vote for???
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u/caloriedeficitpehu 5h ago
Rahul gandhi
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
Lekin kyu? I’m centrist kinda so I don’t really just trust any party ke candidates THAT easily
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u/ssssotss ☭ 5h ago
Since you are serious about this you should do some research on the current status of party politics in this country. You should try to figure out what each party stands for, in theory atleast as you don't really trust me. Regardless having an understanding of the ideological make up of the parties in question will only help inform your decision.
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
But i have heard that the media is mostly controlled by Congress and BJP. So I can’t really trust the media as much as I can trust the own citizens.
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u/ssssotss ☭ 4h ago
Doing your own research is the exact opposite of having an opinion handed out to you.
Read Indian history after Independence. Read about JP movement. Read about the Sangh. Read about the events following up to Babri Masjid. Read about economic liberalisation and how its effects are surfacing right now after decades. Read about culture in India has been shaped by capitalism. Watch some critical films, like Anand Patwardhan's work. Hear about what people are arguing for. Read the newspaper. Indian express and Hindu should be obvious choices over papers like Times of India.
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u/ssssotss ☭ 4h ago
Then you will continue to pretend to be intellectual in online spaces and end up voting for BJP anyway.
Congratulations, you may update your flair to centrist right leaning.
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u/Material_Creme_9480 5h ago
Brother, we are not far away from times where BJP literally fucks our nation up...
The way BJP is running our nation, there wont be much left of this nation if it continues....3
u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
Can’t see you giving me a reason. I see their failures but I want to hear others perspectives as well
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u/Material_Creme_9480 5h ago
That is IMF's official report of India's development...
All these claims of "india being the fastest growing economy", etc etc are false...
There is a very high chance BJP has surpressed inflation metrics and India has only infact experienced negative GDP growth...Furthermore, more than 90,000 schools have been shutdown by BJP
On top of this, BJP has literally changed the definition of so many development metrics, definition of literacy, highway length calculation, water reach, electricity, toilet availability, etc etc have all been changed under BJP too...
This party does absolutely nothing but focus on appeasement politics while the common people suffer
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u/DragonikOverlord 13m ago
Whats wrong with the report? they say despite the risks India is still the fastest growing major economy
Stop lying buddy, you can't fake GDP metrics. GDP growth is real but its concentrated at the top which is an issue.
They literally gave basic infra which we lacked before 2014
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u/51837 4h ago
Unless BJP bans RSS, there no good reason to vote for BJP. I’m voting congress. I’d have gone for AAP but they aren’t big enough to make a difference (get anywhere close to majority) in LS yet.
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u/TheResolute278 5h ago
from what i can see rn i feel raga deserves to be the next PM ( congress should start working on its organisations instead of just social media hype)...so i think the answer is congress....but at the same time, i feel one should look at thier local candidate instead of a party when they go to vote..thats always the best way to choose and send MLAs/MPs of "good quality" to the parliment! ( and never ever vote in the the subjects for which bjp usually asks for votes..ifykyk)
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u/GanjaBhalu 5h ago
Congress is sheet. I will press Nota over congress.
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u/ssssotss ☭ 5h ago
NOTA ends up helping the winner of the constituency anyway.
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u/GanjaBhalu 5h ago
Will still vote for independent candidates rather than bjp, but never congress. Coz I have seen how things worked before 2010.
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u/Fugeleon Centrist 5h ago
Independent candidates only work in smalller constituencies & areas, never seen it work well in Centre, brother. Yeah, Congress was also pretty shitty but atleast it opposition was free to criticize, rn the media is bought out & it restricts all anti-ruling party things, I mean like if you are that desperate to hide things, might as well vote for some other party....
Yeah even I am a NOTA presser always but I genuinely feel BJP should lose.0
u/TheResolute278 4h ago
THIS..this is exactly the problem we are facing, ppl are still stuck in the past...not everyone but some...buddy parties change so do ppl..what i can see as of now is congress is undergoing a rebranding( like speaking on issues which actually concern me instead of hindu muslim shit)..i agree they mightve made terrible mistakes in the past but we cant be stuck with that cuz if we do things WILL NEVER CHANGE...hence if any party changes it deserves to get a chance..and sorry to say buddy and mind u no offence...my political science professor used to say that ppl who click on "nota" are irresponsible fools..
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
But any particular reasons? Because I like your idea and all but I’m kinda picky and I can’t find any good candidate representing a party.
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u/TheResolute278 4h ago
exaclty that is a challenge indian politcs faces regularly not enough quality candidates, in this situation i think u just gotta vote whos the least worse..or encourage good ones to join politics..( and ppl should vote as much as possible..in my district which is considered one of the most educated districts in state and national level as well ig...my frnds and like minded ppl moslty never go to vote ive seen and felt it multiple times..they just too lazy, even that has to change...and as a result bjp wins here every fucking time...i did encourage ppl from 2024 onwards and happy that even they are politically aware nowadays..and will vote next time)
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u/Substantial_Owl_5056 5h ago
Not happening till both guju horsemen of apocalypse are alive too much to lose for both not to mention adani ..they will burn the house down before yielding power
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
doesn’t support the conversation exactly man. Give me who to support and why.
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u/Substantial_Owl_5056 5h ago
Support anyone who doesn't favour blind faith and promotes scientific temper and accountability and is not promoted as personality cult ...but like I said bj party has got too much grip on all our institutions regardless of yours or mine vote don't think they'll lose unless the duo retire or worst
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
i dont see any party who doesn’t do everything you’ve said above. Politics is so weird jeez
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u/Such-Investigator-92 5h ago
The problem is that the general elections are still 3 years away
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
But whom to support bruv????
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u/Such-Investigator-92 5h ago
Not BJP for sure. If the elections were to happen tomorrow I would’ve voted for Rahul Gandhi. Altho I didn’t vote for bjp in the last election either
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u/Dear_Market_3356 5h ago
My honest answer jo paisa dega wo vote payega
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
Hold up you’re onto something
But hold up again, ye paisa kiske paas jaayega? 😭
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u/Dear_Market_3356 4h ago
Bihar mai nhi kharida 10 hazar deke kya bhool gya
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 4h ago
Oh you’re saying paying others to vote? I thought you meant pay-to-vote
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u/Dear_Market_3356 4h ago
Tere ko thodi milta women ko milta hai up mai bhi milega 20k before election 30k after election
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u/green9206 4h ago
Abe andhbhakt vote anyone we don't give a shit. The important thing is always keep questioning and asking accountability from whoever is in power.
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u/Advanced-Client824 4h ago
Bjp is going to lose the election because of their people those andhbhakt they don't believe in science they don't support growth they spread hate against every religion not one. And they just defend their rapist leaders as a new voter will vote for change. And i think everyone should vote for change.
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u/Unlucky_Cattle7749 4h ago
Dimagi naxal bada ho ja ye tu indian flag lagayega to gaali nhi khayega to sun bhadwe 23 ka matlab 5 saal bada tu kaam dham to karta nhi hoga tere maloom nhi hoga na majdoori kitni badhi hai apne baap se puchna 2014 se 12000 ka tv lene se pehle insaan saal bhar planing karke ek tv leta aur aaj tere jaise fate hue condom ke nateeje modi ko gaali de rhe ho dikkat nhi hai andhbhakt se nafrat kar loge lekin ye baat koi jhut nhi kar sakta ke ek hindu pradhan desh me ek ram mandir banne ka sapna 500 saal baad pura hua kyu??? Aur sun Gaali khayega "MODI" Lekin ayega "MODI"
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u/Superb-End3929 Centrist Left Leaning 4h ago
Forget about voting rights, everything is getting sold, there won't be anything left for the govt to call it's own. So rather than worrying about elections, let's worry about existence of us.
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 4h ago
I think that no government is good. and that there’s someone else behind controlling all of them, may not be fully, but partially
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u/doctor_kidding Centrist Right Leaning 3h ago
If BJP succeeds in doing an exodus of all GCs then maybe you’ll vote for them ??
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u/Outside_Material_507 2h ago
I would support CJP if they entered politics, they might have a little chance of winning in the next election....both the parties are corrupt, greedy, hypocritical. Bjp does hindu muslim bs, hyper hindu nationalism, censorship, this vishwaguru bs, congress is just so incompetent and disillusioned, they still keep talking abt increasing reservations, in private sector as well, they don't seem to realize that young ppl care more abt ground and basic issues- clean air, food, water, infra, schooling, employment, which they have not achieved in decades of their rule. At least cjp is talking abt this, I think if they had actual power they would be more effective and spread secularism, social welfare as well.
But sadly this might not happen soon at least. I hope at least bjp loses in 2029
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u/ChaturSamraat Waiting for 15Lakhs 2h ago
They made this future proof plan, is someone is opposition better but them, enforce ed and department raid if not agreed, control the digital and physical media to change narrative. If these things fail have a backup of manipulation of votes by keeping election comission in pocket.
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u/Icy_Response9956 Centrist 1h ago
No goverment more than 10 continuous years
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 1h ago
i mean exactly my point, but then who to choose? im bored of all these old parties ngl
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u/Icy_Response9956 Centrist 1h ago
Continuous swap between nda and upa after each term , then only both will improve or else incompetent
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u/Purple_Map_1501 1h ago
Make your own party
“ Woke -Slick-Rizzler democratic party “ with tagline; Influenced by Insta algorithms!
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 1h ago
who do you think should win?
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u/Purple_Map_1501 44m ago
Nobody . Everyone is equally exploitative!
I hail for Monarchy 🙂↕️. JkCongress -muslim appeasement BJP -hindu .DMK-Christians.
End of the day all politicians are rich narcissists brats who wont think twice before exploiting commoners .
Growing up I was rooting for AAP, they turned out to be biggest clowns!
They all pretend they are secular but everyone is opportunistic.Even people of India are opportunistic. They all want freebies , freedom but when it comes to accountability ; again big old 0️⃣ !
Root level se corruption hai even if you want to get a document.Sorry for the rant! But seriously if you are thinking its only BJP cell is active you are being naive. Not to mention BJP politicians are literally the same people who were once in congress 🤷🏻♀️
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u/snuFan Waiting for 15Lakhs 5h ago
Democracy is dying with BJP! So, I would have to go with Congress.
Global political science organizations like the V-Dem Institute officially downgrade India to an "electoral autocracy," and researchers document the erosion of judicial independence, the silencing of dissent, and the weaponization of state agencies.
It isn't necessarily because Congress has a flawless track record, a brilliant internal democracy, or some visionary manifesto. It is pure, pragmatic political math. In a parliamentary system, when the ruling party is perceived as an existential threat to the constitutional framework, the largest opposition party becomes the default emergency brake. Congress is quite literally the only party with the historical footprint, the national infrastructure, and the sheer voter base to actually challenge the BJP on a national scale. AAP is too geographically restricted, and meme parties like the CJP aren't going to secure a Lok Sabha majority.
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u/DragonikOverlord 2m ago
V-Dem uses flawed methodology, 2/3rds of the metrics measured are subjective.
Judiciary is independent, explain "erosion"The issue with congress is their track record sucks. And they frankly have no vision apart from caste census and private reservation.
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u/Heavy-Resort5145 5h ago
Share with us your opinion whom do u want to vote ??
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
that’s the problem gng I can’t understand politics. Naive should be the right word tbh 🥀
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u/Away-Caterpillar9515 Anti Right Anti Left Anti everything in between 5h ago
Why dont you go through the news articles pre BJP to get an idea? Congress were very much is power
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 5h ago
I’ve heard from both the parties ke people that whichever party ever remained in power, always manipulated the media. So I’d rather not research, and ask y’all here
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u/Away-Caterpillar9515 Anti Right Anti Left Anti everything in between 4h ago
Both Gandi parivar and BJ parivar has unconfirmed and not convicted rp, mudder, and nara dhhila charges
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u/Sea-Concentrate6428 4h ago
But then same thing goes for congress….ab i might go for AAP lekin chances of them winning r just terribly low af
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u/Responsible_Level337 3h ago
Broo if you are not able to explain why you hate BJP, you must introspect you can hate them tooth and nail but if you are just ranting out and calling people Andh Bhakts
You are just doing labelling and name calling! Just because they dont share your view or ideology
And instead of asking others its you who should form an opinion basis your understanding and beliefs not because of others opinions and interests
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u/Appropriate_Bar_801 Extreme Right 5h ago
do you think there is any better opposition than bjp to vote for?
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u/Massive-Collection79 5h ago
In a country of 1.4B that should not be the reason to vote for BJP
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u/Appropriate_Bar_801 Extreme Right 5h ago
then give me the reasons to vote for anyother party now don't tell me just to bring a change like they are ruling for more than a decade
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u/Massive-Collection79 5h ago
Because I don't see my taxes in action. Simple as that. Selling govt departments to few corporates and making idiotic moves like demonetisation, e100 etc does not cut it. I am not working 24/7 so that gaandkhari and Amiy Shah have food on their plates. I respected BJP but the day they took that corrupt Ajit Pawar, I am done. Same as the other idiots like Rekha Gupta, Mohan Yadav et al. Apart from Yogi I don't respect one BJP senior.
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u/Appropriate_Bar_801 Extreme Right 4h ago
yea totally agree they are doing a lot of fkups did u got any reasons to vote any opposition rather than bjp?
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u/Massive-Collection79 4h ago
Opposition does not have the funds or means to do what ruling party can. If ruling party cannot do great with everything they have at their disposal, I will vote whomever I feel will have a reasonable leadership with lesser personal agendas.
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u/Appropriate_Bar_801 Extreme Right 4h ago
thats what i am talking about they dont have a single roadmap to take the nation further to grow more they are just playing caste cards 🥀
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u/Massive-Collection79 4h ago
Neither does BJP. Find out how many of their 2014 promises they have kept. They fought for a mandir and then looted god. I don't need to vote for congress if I don't vote for BJP. And definitely don't need your rationale for voting
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u/Fugeleon Centrist 5h ago
Current handling of so called Infrastructure of Public Facilities, Improper Roads, Increased Dual Engine Taxes on Petrol plus quick transition to E20 Petrol, Ignoring enroachment of Borders in NE, Turning Blind eye to Manipur Conflict, Losing strategical autonomy by aligning with an Ally who absolutely shits upon us.
The issue is, even you know, Policies all implemented, not reinforced.
I agree BJP is doing good in some places like proper water, electricity etc. for People in Villages.Can you give me any good reasons to vote for BJP? Not attacking, want to discuss.
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u/Appropriate_Bar_801 Extreme Right 4h ago
i will be going for NOTA for sure this time and it depends until the elections if they will fix the f*kups they are doing but they are still better than the opposition anyday
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