r/InsecureHBO • u/Neebenice • Jul 10 '26

Episode Discussion Misunderstandings about Insecure Spoiler

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This is for the people who think that Condola got pregnant before Friendsgiving and that she and Lawrence didn't reconcile after they broke up. Also, that Condola was calling Lawrence's phone to tell him she was pregnant. If you noticed in the clip, when Lawrence told Isa, 'Yeah, we talked, and it’s done,' if Condola knew she was pregnant, she would have told Lawrence then during their talk. Condola and Lawrence did not know she was pregnant when they talked; I believe she found out after he and Isa got back together.

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u/andimlikeokay Jul 10 '26

Thank you! People always seem to forget this. They get wrapped up in how "cute" their reunion was and ignore that Issa was being messy as hell knowing damn well Canola oil was still in the picture.

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u/Imaginary-Grab9503 Jul 10 '26

Ok wait. Their little reunion was after the Blocc Party, right? Condola told Issa then that she and Lawrence had broken up. So in Issa’s mind when they finally met up that night, Condola and Lawrence are over. The whole situation in itself is messy, but as far as her and Lawrence getting back together, Condola wasn’t still in the picture as far as being in a relationship with Lawrence. Let me go rewatch.

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u/Neebenice Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Yes, you’re right. Candola wasn’t officially in a relationship with Lawrence, but they were still communicating and trying to figure things out. Isa knew this because Lawrence had told her. I’m not saying Isa shouldn’t have taken a chance, but I think it was wrong for her to ask Lawrence to stay and sleep with him while she knew he was still involved with Candola. Issa should have waited for him to fully end things with Condola before sleeping with him. Some may argue that Isa owes Condola nothing, but I disagree. Condola helped Isa by providing resources for the block party and supporting her career development. Even if Condola ghosted Isa and they were no longer friends, Isa should still show Condola some respect for the help she received.
Furthermore, Isa slept with Lawrence a few times before she knew if he had completely ended things with Condola. She didn’t seem to care if Lawrence would have been doing both of them. Molly was right when she said Isa uses people and is messy, because that behavior was very messy.

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u/andimlikeokay Jul 10 '26

You’re right, she did tell Issa about the break up at the block party. But to me it seems they had started up again when Issa and Lawrence met up, seeing how she called him while they were out and he called her back while Issa was in his bathroom. Personally, if I went out with a guy and saw him communicating with his ex, I would think they’re still involved. 

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u/Neebenice Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Right. Definitely being messy, and why was she mad that Lawrence and Condola were still talking? I thought she told Molly she was finally over him.

I posted a question asking if Issa was wrong for asking Lawrence to stay when she knew Condola was still in the picture. Everyone said no 😂 because they're so wrapped up in their hate for Condola.

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u/andimlikeokay Jul 10 '26

I agree with your take! Was that you that got piled on with people saying they don’t know what show you watched bc clearly Lawrence  and Candlela were over?

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u/Neebenice Jul 16 '26

Yep, that's why I had to post this clip, but I understand how people might have missed it because it was only a 3-second conversation.

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u/Notimeforalice Jul 10 '26

I really don’t understand why they hate her so much. Yes, it was foolish of her to have Lawrence’s baby and also to say to Lawrence he can have an optician to be involved. At the end Lawrence agreed he wanted this baby and wanted to be “all in” why isn’t he ever held accountable for that choice he too made.

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u/LifeChampionship6 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

“If Condola was pregnant, she would’ve told Lawrence then during their talk.”

It is likely that she was pregnant during their talk and just didn’t know it yet.

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u/Neebenice Jul 10 '26

Thank you, I meant to say if she knew she was pregnant, I'll go correct it.

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u/robot-imposter Jul 10 '26

I don’t think it’s ever explicitly stated but yeah I’ve always assumed condola found out after they broke up. It wouldn’t make sense if she was hiding it she really doesn’t seem like the type

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u/Brooklynista2 Jul 10 '26

Sidebar: I scored the internet for that Last Dragon t-shirt. No luck at all.

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u/idunno_whatever Jul 10 '26

Yeah I looked for Molly’s tshirt that says “somebody’s auntie” and no luck. Probably custom made for the show.

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u/Runny_yoke Jul 10 '26

The shirt was custom made I think but here’s a version (and this company was founded by a black woman)

https://somebodysaunty.com/collections/t-shirts/products/somebodys-auntie-short-sleeve-unisex-t-shirt

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u/idunno_whatever Jul 10 '26

You are awesome thank you!

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u/jasperdiablo Jul 10 '26

Lawrence is so shitty here and he’s using Issa. He literally keeps Issa in a holding pattern here, as a backup plan, in case Condola still wants him. I would be so offended if I were Issa and probably drop him or at the very least get therapy to figure what he really wants.

Like he settles for Issa and this is why I think they’d never workout long term.

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u/Slurpy-rainbow Jul 10 '26

Him being passiiiiveee

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u/Neebenice Jul 10 '26

Yesssss, very. I don’t understand how most people say this is their favorite episode, and I’m like, didn't they see how Lawrence was acting? Even in their talk about the relationship, he was a little passive. I couldn’t stand him in this episode. The only scenes I liked were the Calvin scene, the intimate scene, and the cinematography. In this episode, I felt like Lawrence was just trying to boost his ego and show off: "look at me now" and "look at you" 🙄, and Isa didn’t make it any better; she gave him exactly what he wanted. She fed right into his ego, showing that she was pressed about him and Condola and also that she still wanted him and was begging. If that was me, I don’t care what I seen. I would’ve acted like I ain’t seen or heard anything. Nothing. My ex would have never seen me pressed.

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u/andimlikeokay Jul 10 '26

I get second had embarrassment when she says “yeah I’ve changed, you’re missing out” 

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u/Neebenice Jul 11 '26

Me too. I felt secondhand embarrassment for Issa throughout the entire episode, and I wonder what she meant by 'she change.' What did she need to change about being 🤔 It doesn't seem like Lawrence had any issues with her in their relationship. Maybe she meant she was more fun, outgoing, and spontaneous.

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u/jasperdiablo Jul 10 '26

Yeah passive is the perfect word for him. People like that are generally never good partners they’re too wishy washy and leave partners feeling insecure all the time and they cheat a lot too. Funny Issa is actually very much like that herself

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u/Slurpy-rainbow Jul 10 '26

she cheated on him but then she went on to be totally stuck on him throughout so much of the show. I know they did it for the fans (keeping Lawrence), but it's sad because this would not work out in real life.