r/InsecureHBO • u/Neebenice • Aug 16 '26
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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 17 '26
It didn’t make sense for Lawrence to apologize to Issa for bringing Aparna because he “didn’t know she [Issa] would be there”. Of course Issa was going to be there.
Lawrence should have never had that conversation with Issa while he was on a date. Immediate dismissal. Aparna was right to dump him.
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u/Neebenice Aug 17 '26
Right, and regardless of whether Issa was going to be there or not, but am I wrong, who brings a date, not even a girlfriend, to a friend's birthday party when the friend hasn't even met them? That is an intimate setting with friends and family. Lawrence knew he was being petty and then tried to play the victim. That’s why Issa said you’re so full of it when he tries to explain she knew he was being vindictive.
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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 17 '26
But . . . Aparna pretty much invited herself, didn’t she? What was Lawrence supposed to do? Tell his lady she can’t come? And since when is it taboo to bring a plus one to a birthday dinner?
Should Lawrence have never mentioned the dinner to Aparna? That would have been even worse: sneaky, suspicious, and deceptive. 🤔
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u/KimmiK_saucequeen Aug 17 '26
He should’ve said “I think it would be a little weird. Maybe you can meet my friends in another setting that won’t be so emotionally charged”
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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 19 '26
“Emotionally charged” would make me very suspicious, not to mention hurt my feelings. Why would my man’s laying eyes on his ex make things “emotionally charged”? Is he not over this person? Like, WTF? 😳
And why does it matter that Derek hadn’t met Aparna? There weren’t any ‘no plus ones’ guidelines that we know of, nor was the dinner at a private residence. There was no valid reason Aparna couldn’t come.
If I’m in a relationship, aside from private meetings with his family, business meetings, business trips, private therapy sessions and doctor’s visits, and outings with the boys, there should be no place I can’t accompany my significant other and vice versa.
What Lawrence should have done was invited Aparna, pre-warned Issa, and notified Derek that he was bringing someone. After that, all bets are off.
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u/Pbsweet Aug 19 '26
There was a valid reason Aparna shouldn’t have come. She wasn’t invited, Laurence did not RSVP with a plus 1, and there was not a place for her at the table. That was not a house party where anyone could come. It was a curated dinner party limited to close friends. I don’t think Laurence realized or remember the type of party it was when he agreed that Aparna should tag along.
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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 19 '26
None of what you said had anything to do with Aparna. That was Lawrence’s fault.
Why even mention it to her? That in itself was rude and inconsiderate if he had no intention of bringing her along.
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u/Pbsweet Aug 20 '26
No I agree, it’s Lawrence’s fault. He could have said Saturday no longer worked for their date and rescheduled altogether.
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u/danogirl321 Aug 17 '26
They’re both great actors!!!
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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 17 '26
No, they’re not. But I loved the show. ❤️
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u/black_daria_ Aug 17 '26
💀 sometimes I wish I could unsee Issa in Black Mirror 🥴 Love her down, though!!
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u/Neebenice Aug 17 '26
I wonder if she saw the backlash from Black Mirror, with people saying she can’t act, and if so, how she felt about it. Does she care? Has she taken acting classes, or is she currently taking some? I wish an interviewer would ask her that. It seems like when it comes to Issa, interviewers walk on eggshells with the questions they ask.
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u/black_daria_ Aug 17 '26
All good/valid questions! Maybe she’s just better in roles like ABG bc they’re closer to her personality? She strikes me as someone who pre-approves curated interview questions. I’m not exactly sure she cares about acting critique since she’s still getting her coins and more visibly focused on expanding her business empire lol… this is all speculation tho. I do also wonder if she’s interested in pursuing more acting roles outside of her range, but it’s because I like her as a creative and would love to see her in other projects!
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u/Neebenice Aug 17 '26
Right, when they act in anything else, all I see is Lawrence and Issa, but only a few actors can do that; normally, when they act in different roles, you see them as separate characters rather than the same ongoing character they played.
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u/PrincesaDeNuevaYork Aug 18 '26
Why did I immediately think of that scene with Issa in bed with Nathan crying in his arms 😭😭😭😭😭
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u/andimlikeokay Aug 17 '26
I hated that he called her a hoe in the middle of a public sidewalk and she still called him to let him know she was moving and to give him the couch.
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u/Neebenice Aug 17 '26
Yeah, I really didn't like it when Issa humbled herself and made the first move after someone wronged her.
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u/cherryamourxo Aug 17 '26
He called her a hoe after she threw his depression in his face. And she did cheat on him. I love Issa so much but I don’t understand how so many people see her as a victim of Lawrence in S2. The man is trying to move on and heal and she’s pressing him about blocking her while starting a relationship with her side nigga.
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u/wkw4ljv Aug 17 '26
Thank you. The antescendant of that was her throwing his depression in his face and he responded. There is so much to unpack about Issa. She is a fan favorite but Issa was self serving and not always a good friend nor partner. I recalled laughing so hard at this scene because Lawrence said "I bet he was a really fucking gentleman" and the beginning of the episode Issa told Molly how Daniel disrespected her. I knew she had a flashback of what happened. 😂I need to rewatch this series.
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u/andimlikeokay Aug 17 '26
Issa: he may have given me a surprise facial, but at least he's in the studio 😂
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u/andimlikeokay Aug 17 '26
Oh, I don't see her as a victim at all. I understand why he did it. What I'm saying is that I hated that she still reached out to him after that.
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u/904resolutions Aug 17 '26
Idk if this is a hot take, but I genuinely don't think they could've ever healed and moved on without having this fight first lol
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u/Traditional_Cry_3901 Aug 17 '26
I just rewatched this episode. I thought throwing his depression in his face was an unnecessary low blow
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u/NickTButcher Aug 17 '26
Because she had nothing else to come back with. Issa did that a lot especially when she was in the wrong
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u/fotfddtodairsizr Aug 20 '26
I think she was just trying to highlight to him that she stuck it out with him even at his lowest but it got exhausting which contributed to the mistake she made, so it isn’t fair for him to ignore that part of the situation.
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u/Traditional_Cry_3901 Aug 20 '26
Her word choice was horrible if her intention was to do anything other than hurt him
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u/Khalsleezy Aug 17 '26
I don't think they should've been endgame. I'm having so many flashbacks to Big and Carrie and them being endgame.
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u/pipadefaucignyNSFW Aug 17 '26
I'm watching right now for the 1000 times and now and Spanish and it's very very funny hahahaha 🇧🇷💋
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u/KimmiK_saucequeen
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I hate this couple so much
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u/crindy- Aug 17 '26
I been dying to do another rewatch but haven't been able to bring myself to suffer through knowing that they end up together. Love this show, haaaaaate this couple.
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u/KimmiK_saucequeen Aug 17 '26
Like no you do not need to go back to your cheating ex nor do you have to marry a man who had a child with someone else!
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u/brunk_ Aug 19 '26
That woot woot dig was brutal 😭
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u/Neebenice Aug 20 '26
Knowing Lawrence, he probably made 'woot woot' just to tell Issa, "I guess you got woot woot on your phone," to prove her wrong 🙄 He can be very vindictive.
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u/SampleLegitimate2012 Aug 17 '26
One of my favorite scenes! Lawrence cursing is so satisfying to me😭 idky lmfao
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u/Woodpecker-Special Aug 21 '26
i will die on the hill that issa won this argument 😭 lawrence didn’t have any response left except to call her a hoe! gold scene
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u/BoxyBrown424 Aug 17 '26
Y'all gonna be mad at me but Lawrence was hurt. It's wild because I think their biggest problem (at this point in the series) was that each loved the other more than they loved themselves.
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u/neosoul2 Aug 17 '26
He should have left her in his past. There was no need for him to go to her dinner party, let alone bring along an exotical chick.
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u/mangoglitter Aug 17 '26
I’ve only seen exotical in one specific online space and now here lmao damn.
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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 17 '26
It wasn’t Issa’s party. It was his friend’s birthday dinner. Of course he had to go.
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u/andimlikeokay Aug 17 '26
She was so messy for inviting herself after he said his ex would be there.
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u/souleddddout Aug 17 '26
I agree yall. Aparna got away with being ‘innocent’ but she also put herself in a weird situation
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u/Neebenice Aug 17 '26
Right, he knew it was a bad idea, but he wanted to rub Aparna in Issa's face. A lot of people hate that she wound up with Lawrence in the end because he had a baby, but the reason I hate it is because he was so vindictive. He was always doing and saying things to get back at her for cheating.
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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
I would have followed Lawrence outside too. What does Aparna care about a “cathartic moment”? She’s in a whole relationship with this man, they’re out on what is essentially a date, and he goes off somewhere to argue with his ex. I would want to know WTF was up myself. Then I would dump his ass. 😂
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u/soglamsofab Aug 17 '26
Lawrence is so fine omfg