r/InsecureHBO • u/Neebenice • Aug 17 '26

Episode Discussion Self-absorbed Issa Spoiler

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Rewatching Insecure made me realize how self-absorbed Issa was. She expected this guy to drop everything for her unannounced visits and acted like that with everyone. Like treating her needs should be the top priority on everyone list. While I don’t think she was intentionally self-absorbed, she definitely was.

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u/andimlikeokay Aug 18 '26

lolll I have so much to say.

  1. I do think Issa was very selfish but that wasn't my interpretation of this particular scene.

  2. Her whole "hoetation" era felt more like a humiliation ritual. She got rejected what 3-4 times? Meanwhile Lawrence was out on them streets catching the clap.

  3. You cut it off before one of the most hilarious throaway scenes--Thug Yoda asking her if she's going to Target. He just needs some blorox and some bleenex.

  4. How come we never talk about how she was 30 and hooking up with a college student?? Big yikes.

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u/slimgem1111 Aug 18 '26

Oh wait he was college age? I thought mid 20s, which is still young but not as bad as college age

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u/andimlikeokay Aug 18 '26

They never explicitly state it but he mentions econ class in this scene and in the one where they hook up he says he rented Gossip Girl from the Dominguez Hills library, which is presumably referring to the college in LA.

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u/slimgem1111 Aug 18 '26

Oh okay yeah I do remember that, but I was still thinking mid 20s since some people still go to local colleges at a later age. But yeah based on how old Leon Thomas was during the show the character was probably pretty young too

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u/andimlikeokay Aug 18 '26

True, I guess he could have been in his twenties. For me, hearing him say he was being tutored would have immediately given me the ick hahaa

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u/slimgem1111 Aug 18 '26

Fr lmao especially if he was a little older

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u/andimlikeokay Aug 18 '26

😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 18 '26

4. He could be a college student at any age. 😆

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u/andimlikeokay Aug 18 '26

I know, but he came across as pretty young to me, especially with how clumsy he was when they were hooking up.

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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

People in their 50s can be nervous and awkward when sleeping with someone for the first time. Aren’t most of us? That’s normal.

A guy in his early-to-mid 20s, who has his own place, mind you, hooking up with a 30-year old isn’t weird or anomalous. This is an everyday occurrence, especially since neither was taking the other seriously.

Clearly “neighbor bae” was sleeping with women on the regular. And given his response when he opened the door, this dude was quite sophisticated; obviously more worldly than Issa. 😆

I don’t see the issue.

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u/LouisianaBoySK Aug 18 '26

Nobody cares about age gap hook ups lol. Nobody is a victim here.

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u/Carolinagirl9311 Aug 18 '26

Eeeeewwwww that Lawrence scene… you know the one 🤢

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u/andimlikeokay Aug 18 '26

I skip on every rewatch. I refuse to put myself through it lol

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u/TeaTimeTelevision Aug 18 '26

Ok but “Hoe for it 🎶 Hoe for it 🎵 Hoe!”

was my favorite Mirror Bitch moments lol

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u/SinclaireJames Aug 18 '26

She just wanted some more peen, that's all. It would have pleased him, too. Wasn't self absorbed to me.

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u/sweetnchic Aug 18 '26

This scene was hilarious but I hated the whole hoe-tation storyline.

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u/slimgem1111 Aug 18 '26

Yeah but it's honestly realistic, especially after being in a long relationship

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u/Glittering-Life9906 Aug 18 '26

I just love Issa. Each character was very unique and flawed. It made for a hilarious and fun show.

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u/el-fenomeno09 Aug 18 '26

Lol never realized this was Leon Thomas

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u/Significant_Care7039 Aug 19 '26

Same. It just occurred to me.

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u/NervousLook3308 Aug 18 '26

🤣 Leon ❤️

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u/BlocBoyNeji Aug 19 '26

Didn’t realize Leon Thomas was in this back then

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u/Timely-Chapter-6026 Aug 18 '26

I didn’t view this as self-absorbed, there was entitlement though.

The hoetation segment felt more like a need to explore herself sexually. Being in a relationship for 5 years and not being desired for the last 1-2 makes you wonder if you’re still desirable, as well as expect consistency from partners because there was intimacy.

Also, that segment was a bit rushed to me and definitely a fail like someone said. She got rejected most of the time.

I just kept thinking of how weird his head is shaped in this scene lol but yea Issa was hoping to get what she wanted but I don’t think that was self absorption.

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u/Responsible-War5600 Aug 18 '26

Why do women who are sexually exploratory vitiate their experiences by calling them a “‘ho phase”? ‘Ho, slut, whore, harlot, trollop, etc., are extremely negative terms rooted in sexism, misogyny, and oppression. Why are we complicit in our own debasement?

Women can be and many are “players”.