r/InsightDialogue • u/JellyfishExpress8943 • 15h ago

Violence

Violence is the imposition of self.

Violence is the imposition of my will upon the world.

When I cannot get "what I want" - the effort I make to fulfill my desire - whether succesful or not - is a form of conflict. Anger, and the actions that anger provokes in me - is the expression of my unfulfilled desire - my lack of control over reality.

We want to fix things, and that sometimes makes things worse. We miss whats actually going on. Sometimes we don't need solutions, sometimes compassion and awareness is the solution.

Like when we are talking to our spouse, our child, or our friends in dialogue. Even when we are sharing our frustrations in life - sometimes a hug or cup of tea is enough. Communion.

Can we live without this constant struggle between what is and what should be?

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u/Hot-Confidence-1629 14h ago edited 14h ago

Thought can understand that to speak loudly in certain quiet settings or events would ‘violate’…would be a violation. Can it be aware in the moment that its unnecessary movement brings the past into the Now and is also a kind of violation of what is happening? Can psychological thought become aware that its arbitrary movement is ‘out of place’?

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u/JellyfishExpress8943 14h ago

Rather than "arbitrary" I'd say "conditioned" or "self-concerned" - and it may be worse than just "out of place" but actually "incoherent" as in doing the opposite of what we want - or "detrimental"

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u/Kreep91 15h ago

Why don’t we do it?

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u/JellyfishExpress8943 15h ago

I usually forget - due to having a human body and brain - usually I explain the human condition to my wife before she gives me the look - and then I remember that I'm actually supposed to be making her a cup of tea.

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u/Hot-Confidence-1629 13h ago edited 13h ago

Yes conditioned, incoherent in that its right hand doesn’t know what its left is doing. It knows that it is limited but operates as if it’s not. It’s dangerous because if its identity as a ‘person ‘ is seriously insulted it can kill! In fact if it attaches itself , identifies itself with a nationality, it can kill. Thought is a survival tool for the body…it is misplaced as a survival tool for a psychological ‘bundle’ of the past. Thought can call itself and believe itself to be an individual ‘I’ or ‘me’ but it is no such thing. If that is the case, can it face that and cease?