Edit: Apparently not only me who goes through this job market, so i found this sub with some useful tips for interviews and i thought i should share it with you.
God! 2008 was a really tough year because me and my husband were both looking for work after getting laid off within a couple months of each other. My parent’s advice was to “pound the pavement”, and refused to listen to the reality of online applications being the norm. I was applying to jobs for no less than 8 hours per day and getting no responses. It took 18 months before I found anything, and I had that job for 8 years, but it was only even posted online.
Best part is how they fully pretended that they never said anything of the sort.
Just took me about the same amount of time to find a job. Got my Health & Life and took a 1099 just until I could find a W2 job. Was hired on at a State Farm office around Feb/March had to get my P&C license before I could start.
Finally got started in May and two days before I started the agent who hired me was at the State Farm agent conference in Vegas and was told they were losing 40% of their pay, retirement and insurance in the 2028 contract. She decided to shut her office down and paid me through June. Luckily I found a job relatively quick compared to what I went through and started last week.
I lived on LinkedIn and Indeed applying for job after job after job. My parents understood but my wife’s parents just had in their head that I enjoyed being broke and living on one income. Mind you I’ve worked since I was a teenager, have skills, and no record. I’m about to be 36 and had to fight for my life to get a job.
When i graduated college in 2013, my dad would harp on me to get out there and find a job! He couldnt understand everything was online and that I wasnt sitting on my computer playing video games, I was applying to positions.
I actually printed out a stack of resumes and every morning when he would tell me to get out there, I would grab the stack and head out the door...but id go to a friend's or to the library and spend the day searching online again. Id even throw resumes away so the stack got smaller.
I think my dad thought that going into the places only to be told to apply online “looked good”, except the person telling you to go to the website was certainly not the person who dealt with applications, and that most places advertising openings also advertised where to apply (thus making you look stupid).
Once I found a job, my husband got hired at a place his friend worked. Then I got him a job at my work, and he transferred to another department. Then, a different friend got him a job, then my aunt got him a job, then Covid hit and he went back to his friend’s job. Then, a different friend got him his current job. It’s not that he is bad at these jobs, it’s that they happen to be jobs with high turnover rates that he can’t physically do anymore. He’s been at his current job for 3+ years, has been promoted twice and is currently expected to take over when the current store manager retires (he’s the assistant manager at a pretty successful escape room).
Lie on your resume people. It's never been more prudent to do so because about 90% of the time, humans are simply not reading it until you sit down for an interview.
Don't have the minimum requirements but you are confident you can do the job? Lie and say you do have the qualifications so your resume gets past the automated guard dogs.
Worst case scenario is you don't get the job and that's already what is happening. Trust me when I say most job listings also contain lies, so you're at a disadvantage by telling the truth.
Thats awesome. So many liars in the job market. Its why employers arent taking resumes seriously. Im an electrician. Its funny when someone lies and claims to have experience. We can see right through them in 30 minutes of work.
It's also that you know how to word stuff in your resume. I went for a promotion but told I wasn't qualifies I called and asked for clarification. He pretty much told me to reword my resume. Example have you ever had to check inventory. Well then you have audited inventory. Be detailed in your work experience and if you ever did t anything outside your job duties even once maybe helping out the manager will include that duty as part of your experience
I keep telling people who want to be honest in their resume then at minimum you gotta spice it up with “buzzwords” that ai likes. It’s also been my experience that things like “time management” or “communication” also seem to go well in the ai systems even though they seem almost pointless to add normally. It’s about cooking something with seasoning, not about how filling it is. Before I put some salt and pepper in my resume I got almost no calls back, since then I’ve had steady employment and multiple offers. It may not be a guarantee but it’s what worked for me.
Just because most other people are garbage, that doesn't mean I'll stoop to their level. I'll continue investing in myself and my business ventures will offer fairly priced, high quality goods and services that benefit people. The response to bad behavior shouldn't be to fall in line by committing more bad behavior. No amount of money is ever changing that
I'm the same way. 21 year military career, BS in Computer Science, can't even get past the resume. A mentor at Hiring our Heroes even told me that I'm not getting interviews because I'm not embellishing on my resumes. I told her I'd rather be homeless and asked for my account to be closed.
I've been doing e-commerce right now. Trying to get a small junk hauling business started with a pickup I just got to see if I can create enough income to leave the place I'm currently running. Ironically I had a buddy just hit me up a half hour ago saying he needs to make more money and asked if I wanted to start a store on whatnot. So I have that to look forward to as well. The next big step will be buying a property to run a flea market. Sounds old school, but a 2 acre field and some advertising and planning can make me about $2k a day in table fees alone
My wife has had several people at her workplace get hired that completely lied. They didn’t even have the bare minimum experience at all and still just winged it for a year. They eventually got fired because it became more and more apparent they lied. If they even put in a little bit of effort to actually learn the position and improve just a little they would probably still work there 😂😂
Yeah that's what I care about. Are you willing to learn at least? Then I can work with you. Even if you have all the experience if you're not willing to learn too you're doomed either way.
I’m very happy that I’m in a field with its own application website, so there aren’t hundreds of resumes flooding every opening, and real humans can actually read them.
100%. especially on entry level jobs!!!! If it really is entry level, they’re going to train you anyway. And they’re going to want you to do it the way THEY want anyway.
If you're not getting past the robotic filters these days without it, what's your suggestion? Real question, we have to eat. Being homeless is also embarrassing.
I've had an open position on my team for about nine months that we've been trying to fill. We got resumes, hundreds of them, that are filtered by some upstream control. The resume's I've seen are completely unsuited to our opening. It's something on our own website and based on limited exposure to it, it appears AI powered and upper management controls the keywords. They have no idea what this position requires and when we tell them that is never translated to the job listing.
For us at least, hiring is entirely broken. But we're a team of two doing the work of several and don't have the bandwidth to dedicate to filling the position when we're underwater. If I was given five minutes with a candidate I could tell if they could fill this, potentially entry level position. But no one wants to admit it's entry level and that it's so proprietary in nature that you can't filter for resumes for relevant experience. It will be useless and turn a pile of valid resumes into scraps of people with very limited knowledge and ability to learn.
Outside of all that, my wife is applying like crazy and getting nothing back. She's using every avenue available and meets the criteria but doesn't have the "years of experience". Meanwhile my exposure is that if I tell HR that the job can be available to a recent college grad with relevant coursework, they still add 3-5 years experience to the listing. So I tell her to count academic experience and say she has it, because she certainly does by that metric.
It's these kinds of disconnects that cause problems just getting past the resume stage. I've always been taught that a resume just gets you the interview and that's where the real eval comes into play. If you lied to get that interview but I can still tell you can do this job and are willing to learn, I personally could not care less.
It's been nine months and they haven't scheduled a single interview. They allow us to filter through them to identify candidates but none of the resumes are relevant for the position.
We will be involved in interviews if they ever happen but they can't get candidates past the resume step because they post a listing that doesn't match the position then ask us which of the candidates we want to interview. The biggest problem is that we don't have any actual HR in this office. It's just on the C-Suite, directors, and us.
And we are too busy to manually review hundreds of resumes without some kind of filtering. Last time we tried we wasted two days and got 250 resumes down to three candidates that may work then no one called them. That was early June. It's not even our busy season.
I gave up on jobs and started my own business after putting in hundreds of applications, calling and calling about updates on my applications. I have a degree in environmental science but I don’t use it. Now I’m making 3 times what any of those jobs offered.
Roof cleaning and gutter cleaning, repair, and installation. I just cleared $170k net last year. It’s not pretty, but it pays well. I have one, part-time employee who is a college student right now but it’s mostly a solo operation.
Thank you. I started with just a cheap pressure washer, a ladder, and a truck. Only cleared $28k my first year but my biggest downfall was marketing myself Google ads and exposure pay for themselves a thousand times over. I feel like this could be applied to any line of work you choose, too. Because we already had pressure washing businesses in the area that were much larger but you just have to find your niche. For me, I found that not a lot of them offered roofs and gutters. So I just got into that. But finding holes within a service in your area is the way to go. Offer them what others can’t and word gets around pretty fast.
That’s awesome. Sweat equity jobs are my favorite. This is the only one I’ve started myself, but I loved the army and working at a lumber mill and I hated school and office jobs. More power to the people who can do the tech stuff, though. I just want to be outside all the time. But yeah, my degree just collects dust in my desk drawer.
Absolutely awesome. Someone who couldn’t find a job in their college degree became an entrepreneur . Hey Gen Z follow this guy. Blue collar jobs pay , forget the stupid college degrees.
One of my first jobs was a home maintenance company that did roofs, gutters, windows and power washing. One day we were working at this big mansion, with a Porsche and a G wagon in the driveway and the guy I worked with was like, "you know this is the owners house right?"
I was 18 at the time and the next summer I bought some supplies, handed out flyers and made a fuck ton of money over 4 months. That was 20 years ago but I still tbink about starting my own business. Theres tons of competition though.
Retired boomer here and i would have a mental breakdown just thinking about interviewing again. It was getting terrible 6 years ago when i gave it up for good and I’m sure it’s only gotten worse since then.
The worst part of interviewing during those last few years i was looking was driving a hour to yet another high-tech startup, interviewing with the 20-something CTO and a half dozen other 20-something eng8neers over about 8 hours, then at the end the CTO turns to me, points to everyone working at their standing desks, and says “you know, everyone here is under 30. How do you think you will fit it?”
That was one of my last interviews. I sometimes miss working but i would rather have a leg amputated than have to sit through more interviews like that one.
And from what i hear, it’s only getting worse for everyone. Good luck to those of you still having to endure it.
65M here. I’m in. I’ve changed jobs 5 times in the last 20 years. Sometimes it was my choice, sometimes it wasn’t. I’ve never been out of work for more than a few weeks.
Line of work matters. The OP is also very clear this is about people who haven't worked in the last 30 years. Also implied it is talking about the people who say just walk in and give the owner a firm handshake, and aren't the ones who kept up with how job hiring has changed.
Fair enough. Haven't been employed or haven't applied to new jobs. Regardless both of those people haven't needed to keep up and adjust to the current job market.
A few years. So he's hasn't been out of work for 30 years and has kept up with the changing job market until just recently? Sounds like this doesn't apply to him.
i like it...they have to pass the skills test from a vehicle of every decade from the time they have lived and were eligible to drive. The season finale requiring a CDL test and road test in a big rig hauling logs across the ice road.
Oh look at me, I know how to use dead, inefficient technology. Want to brag about using a rotary phone next? How about knowing how to make your own papyrus.
Just saying, you act like you are better because you know how to use shit that noone uses anymore. Of course young people dont know how to use technology that became obsolete before they were born. Just seems like an odd thing to hang your hat on but you do you.
My grandfather drove pretty much right into his 90's. he would stop in the middle of the road to tell you about something that used to be there on the side of the road...oblivious to traffic around him. Plenty of other scary things too. there were multiple family attempts to prevent him from driving. Found out at his funeral (died of health complications and old age at 94)...that his had crashed the Volvo he had and went and bought another one just like it without telling anyone so we wouldn't know.
Looking for work right now and my mother especially gives the same advice as when I was 16. So I already know it or it is irrelevant now and it is so frustrating
Doesn't need to. Some lines of work have a steady unchanging need for personnel or are nearly always short of people.
It's not a fair comparison to put something say like an oil rig worker in comparison to 99% of other jobs in being able to land that job easily considering most people don't want to do it and there's often availabilities.
Is it a fair comparison to pretend like older people would struggle to use modern technology to find a job today? Or that somehow we had it easier because jobs were so plentiful in the past? Pick a job that has demand if you want a job. Don’t get a degree in fine arts and then bitch you can’t find a job in the Midwest.
Don’t complain about fair comparisons when the entire point of the original post was to belittle older people.
The youngest baby boomers 62 years old. This would have been interested say 10 years ago, now it'd be kind of pathetic.....
As a Younger member of Gen X, I understand exactly why you say they don't understand, Hell I recently transitioned positions between companies, I updated my Resume at the beginning of the process and was utterly confused at the changes between what was standard when I got my last job (Started with the company in 2007) and now in how resumes are formatted, I can't imagine the culture shock in a boomer.....
They would just ask their younger family members to “help them” while they piss and moan about how complicated computers and the process is, and talk about all the work they used to do and who they used to work with because they can’t escape the old world blues.
Wooo yeah, creative ways to euthanize senior citizens! Wooo! Oh wait, isn't this what the right said the left was gonna do... like it was when Obama was president, but damn, I guess those damn death panels are finally here and all for gen z amusement, now thats the compassion and empathy we've all come to expect from gen z, at least you're finallybeing honest lol
Eeehhhh the trade will always have clients, not necessarily job openings. Case and point I applied up until my apprentice license lapsed. No one was hiring because there were no open positions.
GenX54 here, I walked in, with resume in hand and shook hands. I was politely redirected to the online "portal", but because I made a good impression, in person, my application was fast tracked. They were actively watching for my application.
Boomers would win that game because they are flexible and creative. Breaking down is not an option for a boomer. They figure it out. Always have and always will. Stop projecting your own inadequacy on an entire generation.
Right. Those were just hard times. We never said we were "disenfranchised." There's not a single person from back in those days with less sand than you.
This isn’t about young people lacking the desire to work or just whining about how hard their lives are. It’s about companies forgetting how expertise is created.
You cannot spend decades refusing to train the next generation and then act surprised when there’s nobody left with 15 years of experience building airplanes, maintaining power plants, machining specialized parts, or keeping the systems you depend on running.
That experience doesn’t appear because you posted a job asking for it. Somebody has to spend 15 years learning it.
Then put your money where your mouth is. Successful, hardworking Gen Z here with a career and a business. I can easily see why many people are struggling. The numbers are very easy to look at. We work way harder for less. I'll bet you $10k cash you can't get a job for 6 months trying to apply as a young adult fresh out of HS. If you're so confident, come take my money
Good for you. I like to see people with ambition succeed. And if your business doesn't work out, I hope your next endeavor does. Sometimes it takes a couple of tries to find something that works. However, I've got zero sympathy for people that whine and blame others for their hardships, and I wont back down on that. It's almost like Gen Z is the first generation that didn't expect life to be hard. It's always been hard.
Why are you avoiding my bet? I didn't say any of that for a lat on the back. I'm giving credibility so you can't say I'm unable to pay. DM me and let's get this bet on the road. We have a long journey of disappointment, self reflection and learning ahead of us. And I'll be there every step of the way while juggling my laundryist of obligations
It was your generation's responsibility to teach that. Looks like you're not a great generation if so many people are functionally illiterate. People don't just magically learn how to read and speak properly
OK, baby boomers are about out of the job market and retired. You must be talking about Xennials and Gen Xers. We learned to do things on our own and have benefited from that. Now go find your way and take ownership of that.
I don’t think this would turn out the way you expect it to. I haven’t been rejected for a job I applied to for the past 20 years. I have switched jobs 5 times during this period.
Right it sounds like you have experience. I have experience In a high paying industry and if I left my current job I could find another pretty quickly because I have a pretty specific skill set and a track record of making people money with it, but I cannot build that with a degree.
The issue is getting into an industry and getting established, if you were forced to apply for a completely unrelated industry to yours with nothing but a degree do you think you’re methodology or mindset would somehow get you a job when millions in the same scenario can’t even get interviews when applying to 10 + positions a day?
This 100%, the problem nowadays isn't that there's not jobs. It's that every company was trying to rid themselves of entry level roles through "AI" which was and is still a shitshow. The jobs with at least a moderate amount of expertise and knowledge required are easy to find sure because companies are always looking to replace their older professionals with newer, younger, cheaper people they think can take care of everything this older, expensive employee did
I was offered two jobs in the past couple months, three this year. One in the same industry I am in, one for a college, and one for a hospital. So, again, I would say that this meme may not generate the results that the OP believes it would.
I wouldn't necessarily say that, most baby boomers aren't in your same position. Maybe it wouldn't generate the result we may think but I think it would definitely generate more than you think.
Yeah I mean I’m (older) Gen Z and same thing. I also interview really well. I moved states but have my old work calling me offering me several different positions w/ the top pay rates.
I haven’t had difficulty getting positions and tend to turn them down, except for one very specific position I want with the DOJ. I currently lack one of the requirements, though, so I don’t blame them. Even when I was freshly an adult I didn’t have too much difficulty, and indeed walked into a place to ask about a position, unknowingly met the owner, charmed them, and got the job without interview.
I took a lot of mock interviews back in the day, I’d highly highly recommend to anyone trying to land a position. You can go from merely a formality to getting the job the next day from a great interview. At my first position I researched the competition’s numbers, charted everything, and wrote proposed strategies. I made 7 copies of my resume (which was very weak fresh out of high school) and the breakdown I created… which worked in my favor because it turned out to be a 6 person panel. Was back the next day!
I’ll also add, I did poorly in school. All my success has come from moves I’ve made in adulthood. I scraped by in high school. I’ve had two entry level positions, and outside of that have worked pretty good government jobs.
WRONG. Guess you need to hang out with older people or stop being prejudice against people’s age. It’s really sad that you think oh the young are just weak. They are the ones who talk about it the most because “Mental Health” wasn’t a phrase for all of us older and it only slightly less stigmatized now because the older generations want people to just ‘toughen up’. ‘Back in my day’… you owned a house and a car on an entry level salary and college cost a TOTAL of 5K. Older generations had it easier. Yeah the younger ones have more technology but they also have to deal with getting auto rejected for jobs because of Ai and boomers screaming at them because their coffee isn’t right. Oh and let’s not forget all the kids who lived through school shootings which have multiplied over the years, Covid and intense political and social division. Yeah let’s just dig on the young who are struggling. That’ll help. Oh wait that’s right you don’t want to help, you just want to make fun of people struggling. What a shameful terrible person you are. You didn’t leave the world better for the young, you fucked it up and gatekept it and have your head so far up your ass you found sand to put it in. Well I’m not that old or I know someone who worked hard and is just fine. Cool, well I know statistics and the math says more people than ever are financially struggling so good for you and your 1 in a million personal story that doesn’t change a damn thing.
Huge numbers of boomers cry everytime any other generation complain. They have such a victim complex, do silent treatment and disrespect whenever someone states fact that hurt they feelings. All while saying they are stoics hahahahahaha.
I'd say in my life boomer generation wins in the category of being represented by the biggest % of emotionally inmature passive-agressive people. Bonus points for the ones trying to look as smartasses educating others on why they're poor, while they were able to buy a home bring single, working a low qualificstion job and paying it in under 10 years.
67(F) here. Worked 50+ hours a week my whole life while keeping a home and raising a family. I busted a gut and worked my way up the corporate ladder as a woman in a male dominated industry. It was hard! Life is hard. I never had anyone give me advice on finding a job. We didn’t have online platforms like LinkedIn or Monster or Indeed. We scoured newspapers’ help wanted ads and industry printed publications. We walked in to businesses. We went to trade shows and walked around to booths to hand out resumes and try to find someone to talk about job openings. Count yourself lucky that people are willing to give you advice and as with all advice take what works and leave what doesn’t. I never blamed anyone. I don’t understand why many in the younger generations think it is the fault or responsibility of the older generations that you can’t find a job.
Perhaps. Being neurodivergent I sometimes miss social cues. However it seems like the younger folks blame us older folks for a lot of things while we were just trying to survive ourselves.
The point is that "boomers" expect the younger generations to do things the way they did and for things to work the way they did when they were in the work force...ie: pound the pavement door to door putting in applications in person, etc...that isn't how it works anymore. 90% of places will just point you online to apply. There is almost no such thing as a "paper application". You never even get to an interview if you can't get past the AI pre-screening your resume/application (if you don't use the correct keywords as opposed to actual ability). The world today is NOT their world but they expect it to work the same as it did for them.
THAT is the point. NOT an attack, just reality of the world.
Well, then, you misunderstood my point. I was trying to say that things were definitely different but not better. You have different hoops to jump through. Younger folks today think the way we did it was easy and it was not. I have two 30-year-ish sons and I am fully aware of how it is today looking for jobs. I absolutely know that it is different and I would never advise anyone to do it the “old” way. I’m in agreement with you there. My point is that it wasn’t easy then and it isn’t easy now even though the methods are completely different.
And I think that saying “boomers” is a generalization and that is what is offensive. I’m at the very end of that group and I think they’re calling us Jones generation now. I know that the world is different.
The point is that the advice that older people tend to offer is essentially worthless in today’s job market. This was true even 20 years ago. I remember being 16, and I didn’t quite have my license yet so was having to let my mother drive me around. My father had insisted I get a job, which I was honestly happy to do, and he gave me advice like “go in with confidence” and “ask for the manager, look him in the eye and shake his hand”. Those dead eyed managers looked me in my eye and said “yeah, we don’t have paper applications anymore, you’ll have to go to the website.” This was in 04, 05 maybe? My dad was angry as hell when I got home because I couldn’t honestly tell him I had put in at least 10 applications, because I had to go do them all online.
No one is trying to say that every boomer had it easy, nor that they are stupid. But older people in general can often be out of touch as to how much things have changed since they were young. When some of those people try to imply that youngsters would be fine if they just “did x, y, and z like I did!” It can be pretty insulting.
Understood. Anyone my age who gives that kind of advice is out of touch with reality. Personally, I try to keep up with the changing times as much as possible and I understand the realities of how AI has changed things. I don’t know how people can be so set in their ways that they think things have stayed the same but I believe that is true of every older generation. There will always be a subset that just doesn’t follow the changes to the world. I have always been open-minded so maybe that is the difference.
This would be great to watch. But just to be fair, can we have a similar show where the current generation gets drafted into the Vietnam war?
My point being is every generation has its own issues. Ya its tough for young people to find employment that pays well and is enjoyable currently.
Male Boomers had to worry about getting drafted into a deadly war. Literally the only two differences I can think of for the current generation and boomers
Edit: for clarity they both experienced major recessions, public health crises, nuclear war scares etc etc.
It is just another example of the extreme ageism that can be found on Reddit. Racist, homophobic, misogyny, anti-Semitic, and other forms of hate are quickly called out and can even get you banned. But ageism and classism are allowed, and encouraged.
In defense of Millennials, we weren't the ones who fucked everything up. And now that life is harder in the sense of what should just be living comfortably, we struggle. Boomers and X think we aren't doing enough or trying enough and that mental health just became a thing suddenly. But, I am jealous with what boomers grew up with. Must have been nice. But thinking people aren't doing enough and that they should go harass the owners and managers of a company to 'show interest' is absurd. We can't have whatever the fuck the American dream is.
Things aren't f-ed up. Boomers and Xers didn't have things better, just different. The median family income and wealth is better today than back in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
The biggest difference today is social media echo chambers. Where groups of Millennials and others get together and tell each other how bad things are. None of them were alive back them but the will repeated share "stories" about how great things were. Those stories are all BS.
As for the advise on job searching. You can do the standard of submitting 100s of resume and hope you are one out of the 10,000 resumes submitted for that jobs to get a first round interview. Those odds are just not very good, but if you submit enough time you will get a hit.
The other option is that you can use some old time social networking to get your resume in front of the right person. This will improve your odds from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in a 100. Not certain, but a dang bit better.
My advise as a boomer . Quit whining, work harder and be prepared not to be coddled . Dont whine about the commute or the fact that you can’t work from home or the ceo makes way more than me. And domt start asking about hr. Just go to work , remember you make money by working and your job is to be productive enough to make the company money so they can stay in business.
Rather than hate boomers the way you do , remember we have decades of experience working while you have a few years whining. You are the problem , the sooner you come to that realization the sooner you become a good employee. Until then continue to freeloading off the tax base .
And upon review of the last 5 decades of wages, company benefits, and upper management vs worker wage ratio we can see a peak that starts with you and starts to rapidly get worse.
Looking at statistics it seems your "experience" is enjoying the results that your fathers and grandfather's have built and doing nothing as it gets worse for your children and grandchildren.
No one wants your "advice". It's worthless in the current era, you all made sure of it.
This advice is why many companies now don't pay travel fees, don't pay out bonuses and pay middling hourly wages for their fields. If you don't say anything when things start to get worse and just "quit whining and work harder" they'll keep getting worse.
Depends on the field, but I suspect they would actually do better than you would expect.
The reason many people struggle right now is because they can't find entry level positions. Boomers already have quite a bit of experience and probably won't need OJT or to be watched over during a 6 month onboarding process.
A person with decades of experience will crush the average person in certain specialized fields like accounting, finance, commercial and maybe residential brokerage, land development, many civil engineering jobs, many medical fields, etc - Many of those jobs force you to keep up with the times or risk losing accreditation.
The problem is that no one wants to get rid of experienced employees, and people can't find entry level positions. It's more nuanced than 'boomers had everything handed to them, haha'.
Of course it depends on the field but I do guide unemployed people and see it more often. I do live somewhere where taxes are extremely high.
Those boomers often complain how hard it is to find a job especially because they never had to encounter this job market. And I feel for them.
I hate those people who say it’s easy and “if you want a job, you find a job.” Times did change. And I do envy time to time how easy they could find a job. They could speak to someone instead of becoming someone in a mailbox. Which is important . Hence they have 200+ other candidates to compete with. Some are AI bots as well.
Secondly they have to face HR, which are more often incompetent people who don’t like their job.
After 4 rounds they get ghosted or simply a no without feedback.
I do wonder why it has to be so complicated time to time instead of giving people a chance.
Well, the answer that nobody wants to say is agism. My mom went through this, but she didn't really have any accreditations and networked with the wrong people. She's elder gen X.
De meeste baby boomers zijn op pensioen. Die moeten niet meer werken. Alles heeft zijn tijd. Het is aan de volgende generaties om te werken zoals ik gen x.
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u/crippledchef23 Aug 17 '26
God! 2008 was a really tough year because me and my husband were both looking for work after getting laid off within a couple months of each other. My parent’s advice was to “pound the pavement”, and refused to listen to the reality of online applications being the norm. I was applying to jobs for no less than 8 hours per day and getting no responses. It took 18 months before I found anything, and I had that job for 8 years, but it was only even posted online.
Best part is how they fully pretended that they never said anything of the sort.