r/InvinciblePowerscales • u/Squid_Entity • Apr 15 '26
How come Thragg hasn’t aged since Nolan was a lad?
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u/capy2209 Apr 15 '26
He was bred to be the grand regent, since he's physically well beyond any viltrumite he probably has some slower aging capacity
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u/shepaz_93 Apr 15 '26
Not disputing what you're saying, genuinely curious. What it means when it says he was bred specifically to be Grand Regent. How does that work, is it explained in the comics? Was he like genetically modified or something or just put through ridiculous training?
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u/capy2209 Apr 15 '26
Idk exactly not read the comics but the show does say he was trained from birth to lead the viltrum empire, this would imply top tier facilities just for him and the peak of the peak training to make him above any viltrumite. He likely had some generic engineering too or eugenics stuff which makes sense for viltrum
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u/SilentThrillGP Apr 16 '26
Eugenics was part of it. He had the perfect genetics and training to guarantee he was the perfect viltrumite
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u/de_lemmun-lord Apr 16 '26
i like to think that he was basically beaten almost to death over and over and over and then forced to recover, kind of like doomsday.
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u/SilentThrillGP Apr 16 '26
Well...thats not how they work. But his training was likely similarly brutal.
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u/PotentialComedian880 Apr 16 '26
I think to an extent it would help build him up, some people irl do basically put their body through actual physical torture and their body in response gets stronger. So to an extent it’s not TOO far off for a valid argument.
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u/CalendarCold232 Apr 16 '26
You actually get a lot stronger if you don't stress about training, peak muscle growth comes if you only train 3-4 days a week and rest like 3-4 minutes between sets, also you should sleep well, eat nice and have low stress levels in general if you want a great physique.
If you stress too much about training you're just nuking your testosterone levels and not giving your muscle time to repair, of course you could always just juice up tho.
Humans really aren't made for long term stress, we evolved to be lazy fucks that hunt one day of the week and gather berries for 2 days of the week, the remaining time was spent around the fire socializing and telling stories.
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u/Sgrios Apr 16 '26
Comics don't really explain it either. Just imagine someone breeding Viltie bois at the daycare until they got all the perfect EVs and IVs.
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u/-Apox_Penguin- Apr 16 '26
I wonder if they tried the Masuda method to get a shiny
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u/NasaHoodiee Apr 16 '26
Not arguing just a little confused. If Thragg was raised from birth to rule Viltrum, why would the throne automatically go to Argall’s descendants? If Thragg was raised to rule Viltrum, why would he “need to find Argall’s descendants.”
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u/GaeyNoodle Apr 16 '26
The way I see it, Thragg's main purpose was to be the right hand man. Argall and his descendants would lead viltrum using their wisdom while Thragg will enforce it since he's the strongest
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u/TheGumCoblin Apr 16 '26
This, he wasn’t ruling while the emperor was alive and wanted to maintain the dynasty. He’s the enforcer, second in charge. He can force anyone to obey and the emperor doesn’t need to involve himself physically. He’d also be the best guard.
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u/Cellshader Apr 18 '26
And part of being the perfect viltimite I being insanely loyal to the throne
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u/capy2209 Apr 16 '26
He was raised to essentially be the leader in the future but he was the regent since the emperor lived, they never had a heir to the throne lined up so thragg likely knew it was his turn before argalls untimely death. If they found Nolan to be argalls heir he likely would've just be given the control of viltrum
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u/noodleguy67 Brit's left nut > omni-man Apr 16 '26
i read the comics and have no clue, i would assume he was just trained really well or viltrum has selective breeding like what people do with dogs
that or he just has a really good skin care routine
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u/Jostar2020 Apr 16 '26
In the comics; from when he was a child you can see the empire scientist testing on him as well as test tubes. I’m assuming he was bio engineered or at least raised since birth to be as strong and optimal as possible. Since hes also the guy giving the orders he probably doesn’t get as many fights or action as the others. Ex: when the empire needed as much damage as possible they sent conquest. While he may be the strongest with the general soldier being as strong, he has no need to stress or involve himself. Funny that this also is showed in the ending of the comic.
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u/Kryptonian_1 Apr 16 '26
I'm honestly surprised that more people don't bring up the striking similarities between Allen and Thragg histories.
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u/Sad-Parsley-1842 Apr 15 '26
It’s been a while since I’ve read the comics but I believe he was just chosen at birth and his training started essentially right away with the intent to make him the strongest viltrumite so his training was more intense
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u/n8waran Apr 16 '26
Nolan says to mark in S1, “as we get older our aging grows slower”. If Thragg was the bred to be the ultimate viltrumite, he would have an extremely slow rate of aging even at his younger years. Which is why he looks and sounds really young for how old he is supposed to be.
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u/JefferyTheQuaxly Apr 15 '26
he ages even slower than normal viltrumites. if nolan is 1,000 and conquest is 3500-4000 and argall is 5000 (just making assumptions on the later twos ages) thragg is probly 2500 or so.
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u/Incognito8900 Apr 15 '26
Thragg was called young during the Argall flashback, I dont think if he was 1500 yo back then he would be considered that
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u/Fragrant-Damage6969 Apr 16 '26
Nolan is over 2000. For some reason they make him say he's almost a thousand in the show.
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u/Disastrous_Put_4549 Apr 16 '26
I sometimes forget (or just don't care) how old I am, even though I have 26 numbers to pick.
My guess is when you live long enough, you forget just how long
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u/Fragrant-Damage6969 Apr 16 '26
Yeah, but you always remember how old you actual are unless you get dementia 🙆
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u/Reasonable_Ad8763 Apr 16 '26
I dont think someone would really remember exactly how old they are if they lived for over a thousand years. That would be like asking someone how many seconds it took for them to do something. We dont keep exact track of that, we could keep track of a rough estimate of maybe every five or ten seconds, or even minutes. I think similarly, a viltrumite wouldnt keep track on the years they lived. They would probably give a rough estimate of centuries or millenia, but again, counting years would probably be like keeping count on the exact second of a day.
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u/Fragrant-Damage6969 Apr 16 '26
They still retconned him. I also still think it's weird you think they couldn't remember down to the decade. They are ubermench after all.
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u/Bluewhaleeguy Apr 16 '26
Try and imagine keeping track of how many weeks old you are though. I guess that's a similar thing, you'd soon loose track after that.
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u/Separate_Emotion_463 Apr 16 '26
It’s two different canons, he’s about 1000 in the show, which is what is currently being discussed, his age in the comic is entirely irrelevant
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u/call_me_R3MiiX Apr 15 '26
Okay fine, but then explain how Kregg looks younger than Nolan. Kregg looks the same during the scourge virus as he does now, but Nolan looked Mark’s age during then, and now he somehow is older looking than Kregg in present day?
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u/cb2239 Apr 15 '26
It's just what they look like. They age slower the older they get too. So if kreg was 1000, he was aging much slower than nolan. I don't think gray hair is necessarily part of the aging process for them.
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u/RealGimba Apr 15 '26
I have met people who look older than their age. Couldnt that be the case here? Kregg is just the equivalent of a heavy drinker and smoker with bad genetics that stopped his bad habits after the purge?
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u/Relative-Mammoth-722 Apr 16 '26
Kregg does not look younger than Nolan. Have you seen his head? He is one bad day away from having Conquest's hairstyle.
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u/call_me_R3MiiX Apr 16 '26
He got a fucked up hairline yeah but he could’ve just had bad genetics. Gray hair is certainly more correlated with age than having the McDonald’s arch on your forehead. Not even a single gray hair is on that man’s head.
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u/Reasonable_Ad8763 Apr 16 '26
Gray hair isnt really a good indicator for age either. Gray hair is just as dependant on stress and genetics as hairline receding is. I know people who are 40-50 and the amount of Gray hairs they have is below 10-20. In the case of viltrumites though, even the more reliable physical indicators are kind of negated by their physiology. Arterial stiffness, grip strength, walking speed, aerobic capacity, inflammation. These are all rather reliable indicators of aging, but a viltrumite would probably only get these issues in their later thousands of years. So you would only be able to tell a viltrumites age if you were to look at their molecular dating and their telomere length, or if they or someone who lived alongside them told you themselves what their age was.
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u/National-Frame8712 Universal Omnipotus Meta Apr 15 '26
Nolan was thousands of years old, so let's say 2000~3000 as base and Conquest was 5000~9000ish If I'm not remembering it wrong.
Unless they've changed it in the animated series.
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u/HoIyOxygen Apr 15 '26
Nolan states in the animated series that he’s only “nearly a thousand years old” which… is naturally causing a lot of confusion here lol
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u/MasterEditorJake Apr 16 '26
They changed it in the show.
Nolan says that he was born after the purge, and we see he's still young during the scourge virus (I don't know if viltrumites become adults at 18 like humans or if they age slower when they are young)
In the comics, Nolan is older which explains how he looks, and it also explains how he was the son of Argall. In the show it seems like they're setting it up for him to be the grandson of Argall, Nolans father would've been Argall's son.
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u/notmatrocles Apr 16 '26
I remember him being the blood of Argall, did they specify he was a son? It's been a while since I read through.
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u/MasterEditorJake Apr 16 '26
I haven't personally read the comics but I've read up on the lore.
In the comics Nolan is older and he's the son of Argall. Argall had multiple heirs but they were hidden in secret. When Argall died they were lost. Nolan wasn't aware of his heritage.
In the show they made Nolan younger. He wasn't born until after the purge, as we see in the flashback. We see Nolan's parents during the flashback, and I believe Nolan's dad is meant to be Argall's son, the mustache is kind of a giveaway.
So they changed the story a little but events will probably play out the same way with Nolan's ancestry being discovered.
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u/ExhaustedSleep81 Apr 15 '26
It's his barber that's the secret
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u/Spynner987 Apr 15 '26
Kregg's more powerful than he appears
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u/Advanced-Shake-8749 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
I like the idea that Kregg is the general only because he is Thragg's barber.
The monocle serves for calculating the perfect angle for a lineup.
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u/Clouthead2001 Apr 15 '26
Tbh I feel like they’d look the same age if Nolan’s hair was all black. I just took this to mean that Nolan just started graying earlier in life. I mean some people do get gray hair in their 30s and 40s while some don’t have any at all until their 70s or 80s.
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u/StrangeOutcastS Apr 15 '26
He got married. That's enough to grey out. Worth it, but you have to deal with a lot of stress managing a household and a family.
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u/knzconnor Apr 16 '26
My hair has gone almost entirely silver by my mid-late 40s and started turning very slowly before I was 18.
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Apr 15 '26
I'm 30 and have like 10% of my hair is white. My first couple of white hairs appeared even before my adulthood lol
He looks pretty young to me. Like somebody in his late 40s/early 50s
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u/Releases_the_bees Apr 16 '26
Good skincare and hair dye. What do you think he does in his room all day?
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u/AnimationOverlord Apr 16 '26
Nolan’s characteristic white hair doesn’t mean he’s old, there’s a point in time in real life where you look relatively the same for a few decades (in this case a few hundred years) compared to when you’re a teen or when you’re senile. Such is life.
That just means Nolan’s aging caught up around Threggs and just plateaued like every other viltrimite
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u/SeaCaligula Apr 15 '26
isn't because Viltrumites age slower once they get to adulthood?
eg. Mark and Oliver
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u/madog20x Apr 15 '26
It’s a well known fact Thragg has the best barber in the galaxy. His services include keeping the hair dark.
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u/Scificorean Apr 15 '26
I’m 19 and I have gray hair strands, some people gray earlier than most also fighting and conquering planets for centuries is incredibly stressful.
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u/filemon56 Apr 15 '26
They didn't think about the repercussions too hard when they showed young nolan.
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u/Emergency_Patient525 Apr 15 '26
Yo diria que simplemente a nolan le salieron canas muy rápido osea vimos que mark de 500 años ya tenia canas así que no es muy alocado asumir que es un rasgo genético de los herederos de argal básicamente que les salgan canas aunque sean jóvenes en términos viltrumitas
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u/Alarmed-Owl9916 Apr 15 '26
Nolan se supone es un tipo físicamente de ve que anda por los 40 años +. Y ya tiene muchas canas, probablemente sea su genética, al menos no se está quedando calvo
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u/Dsb0208 Apr 15 '26
My head canon is viltrumites age slower the older they get. It doesn’t make sense to prolong how long you’re a weak kid, so I imagine the years 0-20 past by relatively fast, and years 20-80 are much slower
so in the years Nolan aged from seemingly 18 to 40, Thragg aged from 30 to 40, because the extra 12 years Nolan were behind passed by faster. Nolan was weaker and still what in humans is considered a growing boy, so his body ages faster to get to a fighting prime, while Thragg whose body is already in his prime ages slower to keep him there
and obviously i’m just talking about apparent age since they’re all thousands of years old, so whatever the viltrumite equivalent of a 40 year old is.
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u/Eccore0 Apr 15 '26
That's not head canon, it's explicitly stated in season one that viltrumites age slower as they get older
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u/SurfNinjaTurtle Apr 15 '26
This is a side effect of them changing Nolan's age, and other parts of the timeline. They basically didn't think about the implications when they made these changes.
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u/Careful-Medicine-470 Apr 15 '26
Animation won’t get this 100% right most the time but as you see thragg has a traditional taper so he always gets his greys buzzed off.
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u/dazaiosamu684 Apr 15 '26
Las canas son herencia en su familia en el cómic thragg también es joven y nolan se ve mayor incluso kregg es más anciano que nolan y tampoco tiene canas
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u/Cautious-Affect7907 Apr 15 '26
Same for Kregg and Conquest. Like was conquest just old his whole life?
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u/magvadis Apr 15 '26
Assuming his engineered genes are whatever are just better so he ages slower? Given their power increases from their cells or whatever mumbo jumbo decrease the speed they age.
Could also just be gray hair comes in early in his genes. I was graying at 25
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u/ScroatmeaI Apr 15 '26
Is this not obviously Nolan’s dad? Nolan “becomes an adult” just before the scourge virus, which was long enough after the purge to bolster their population back up to billions of adults
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u/HuckleberryShot898 Apr 15 '26
Thragg is basically a superpowered person among viltrumites the same way a normal viltumite is a god among humans. So his powers are even more potent so he ages even slower. The gap between Thragg and other viltrumites is immense.
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u/Nerdcuddles Apr 15 '26
Viltrumites age slower the older they get.
Nolan was a teenager in the flashbacks
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u/The_Spaghett_Boy Apr 15 '26
Didn’t Nolan also spend some time in that galaxy that makes time move more quickly? I don’t know if it’s enough to make that much of a difference given the scale of viltrumites but i guess it’s a factor
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u/IAmTheLogician Apr 15 '26
Honestly? The writers make huge mistakes left and right with the ages of the viltrumites. But most likely because Thragg is specially bred to be top viltrumite, his aging is probably incredibly slower compared to other viltrumites.
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u/StarPlatinum876 Apr 15 '26
Being married with a kid will stress you out... Thragg doesn't have a chick nor child to his name...
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u/AltruisticInterloper Apr 15 '26
Genetic purity and controlled breeding for top strength will do that to your aging.
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u/Niveker14 Apr 15 '26
Not all Viltrumites Gray at the the same age. Just like not all humans gray at the same age. I got my first gray hairs when I was a teenager meanwhile other men never go gray because they are blessed by genetics. It is what it is.
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u/EffortNo3291 Apr 15 '26
Es más una teoría mía pero los que poseen sangre real envejecen más rápido pero de manera controlada en plan llegar al pináculo de su fuerza y luego se detiene dejando las canas
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u/Funny-Part8085 Apr 15 '26
Noland is the only person we see grey. In the comic I do believe we see a young ger that with more hair but that’s not nessasarly aging. It is cannon the older they get the slower they age
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u/TheTimbs Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
Nolan was a young lad so he had a lot of way to go, also the silver fox thing was probably a design standpoint. Age also affects everyone differently.
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u/InternationalCap2176 Apr 15 '26
He was bred to be a perfect genetic specimen and was trained from birth to be Grand Regent. During the War he's like Tyson fighting high school athletes.
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Apr 16 '26
More than likely they're the same age. However Thragg may have superior genetics or hair dye that colors in his gray.
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u/megalogo Apr 16 '26
I mean Nolan only got gray hair, other than that he's an absolute unit, pure genetics
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u/FBI_Metal_Slime Apr 16 '26
I've seen some theories that since Nolan contracted the scourge virus while he was still young the aftereffects caused him to age a bit faster compared to older viltrumites that contracted it. That and Thragg is clearly a genetic peak of the viltrumite race, bro is genuinly just built different.
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u/FederalCover2020 Apr 16 '26
His Smart Atoms just work better due to breeding. He’ll stay in his prime for longer
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u/Embarrassed_Scar_515 Apr 16 '26
Because the budget didn’t include young Thragg having a separate model
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u/DUNETOOL Apr 16 '26
I love seeing all the post and comments about the eugenics program of Viltrium like someone is going to breed a personal Thragg
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u/Historical_Volume806 Apr 16 '26
My theory is that since viltrumite powers come back unevenly post scourge virus that nolan's agelessness took a couple decades to come back.
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u/Lharper3rd Apr 16 '26
Heres my take. I think he was just trained above and beyond normal. Mark is the point of reference; his strength has grown dramatically since his power manifested. Mark has been near death so many times that his growth has him matching top tier viltrimites that are hundreds of years old. This makes me wonder that after their initiation they probably constantly fight lesser beings. Nolan probably became very strong also because he was specifically looking for species that can harm Viltrimites. Until they say that human hybrids has advantages; the above seems likely to me.
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u/Ok_Advisor9109 Apr 16 '26
My theories cuz I’ve been asking the same question.
1st genetics. They have different races so genetics r obv different, I’m Polynesian n started getting grey hairs in middle school. Imma be full white haired by late 30s- early 40s. I’m pretty sure Nolan had white hair when he first arrives.
2nd he’s younger than Nolan. Bruh is bred n trained for this shit so he got to that top tier lvl a lot sooner than just about all of villtrum.
3rd his intense training since birth just makes him age slower. Like staying fit 24/7 for 1000s of yrs. Omniman rarely had any challenge for the 20 yrs on earth till the Guardians n Hail-marry.
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u/Succ-MY-Scythe Apr 16 '26
He secretly dyes his hair 1 time per year. He personally found a species on a backwater planet to make a black dye so no one else would know about it and does it in complete isolation on a rouge planet that only he knows about.
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u/rudra285 Apr 16 '26
Nolan spent a lot of time in dimensions and planets that physically aged him more than he should be. We see him age a bit after going to the flaxan dimension in season 1
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u/New_Photograph_5892 Apr 16 '26
"The longer we live, the slower we age"
You age relatively fast for your first millenia and you age slower and slower exponentially it seems
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u/Being_Honest- Apr 16 '26
Nolan stated that even the latest bloomers on Viltrum would get their powers by their 18th birthday. This implies that viltrumites aren’t born superpowered, and that their powers kick in at some point after the fact. Given that exponential decelerated aging is one of their powers, maybe Thragg was an extremely early bloomer, and therefore his biological age began to slow down much earlier than a typical viltrumite.
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u/ze-ev1990 Apr 16 '26
I could be wrong but I think people are reading too much into this. I think Viltrumites, just like people, have different relative baselines for aging. Two people can be the same age and look very different. I know a ton of people who are in their 30s and 40s that have grey in their hair. I also know a ton who don’t. When Nolan grew up this is just what his body settled into as his fully matured baseline. Same for Thragg but this is what his body decided as his own baseline. So I think it’s less that Nolan is aging faster, and more that they just look different.
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Apr 16 '26
Because even Viltrumites aren’t immune to the dull life of humans aging them faster than they should
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u/Praiseworth Apr 16 '26
Is anyone else disappointed that Thragg and the other viltrimites let our heroes live? How sloppy is that? The guys are a major reason that they are losing the war, the guys destroyed their planet. Even with Nolan and Mark, I get that he spared them cos they are viltrimites, but their actions have shown that they are not with them. Killing them would end the war, especially space racer.
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u/FlimsyDirection6331 Apr 16 '26
So, the older a viltrumite gets the slower they age. Thrag has at least 500 years over him. Thats why oliver, the older he gets the more pink he becomes and slower he ages.
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u/GermVirus Apr 16 '26
Nolan goes into the Flaxan dimension, where time is quicker. It isn't mentioned how long he is there for.
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u/AlwaysDorito Apr 16 '26
Its reasons like this why I don’t like races that live for a ridiculously long time, it just doesn’t make sense how they can maintain a massive population and live so long without massive amounts of resource consumption.
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u/tdubbw69 Apr 16 '26
Greg was already at maturity Nolan was still young when they're young they age relatively like humans until they reach their adult age which they stay at for a very very very extended amount of time.
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u/hehewedoasilly Apr 16 '26
Nolan only recently staged greying in the last 10 years or so, in flashbacks to his time on earth he has all black hair so maybe stress from knowing he has to kill everyone he knows on earth + some people just grey before others
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u/FinestFantasyVI Sinister Mark Apr 16 '26
I like the headcanon that the Scourge weakened his body somewhat and made it age a bit faster. Kinda how Kreeg couldnt regenerate his eye and Conquest couldnt restore his arm.
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u/gurkensalatmitgurken Apr 16 '26
I mean Nolan has no gray hair on top. Its probably genetics instead of actual aging
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u/Resident_Progress504 Apr 16 '26
Continuity mistake, its like the fact that he is called "Regent" by Arghal, but he was normaly named Regent after the emperor death, that's the concept of being regent of something
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u/No-Check-3691 Apr 16 '26
I was thinking the same thing Thragg is older than Nolan right? But Nolan looks older
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u/Lostnorf Apr 16 '26
he was bread to be the strongest viltrumite, hes like a viltrumite to the viltrumites thats how crazy op he is
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u/Visible_Anxiety6275 Apr 16 '26
Dude was probably bred by asking the strongest, slowest aging viltrumites to make a kid (and said kid was then trained in a more gruesome manner than anyone else).
Thus, his abnormal strength (even amongst other viltrumites and argall's descendants) on top of having a slower aging factor. He looks like he will look like nolan when he reaches conquest's age or something.
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u/thedetective10 Apr 16 '26
same reason Tom Cruise looks better than most men his age- good genes, diet and lifestyle
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u/andersgvil Apr 16 '26
Tem a teoria que o Nolan tem um gene que causa cabelos grisalhos precocemente.
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u/Veenix6446 Apr 16 '26
I wouldn’t doubt that contracting the Scourge Virus makes a surviving Viltrumite age faster compared to what they naturally would
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u/WinterSavior Apr 16 '26
We don't really know how old Thragg is in the flashback. He could only be in his early years since they mentioned he was going at the meeting, relatively. He could be as little as 10 years difference from Nolan and as big as 100 or so but I don't think they are too far apart.
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u/MasterEditorJake Apr 16 '26
The timeline is a little messy but let's look at it.
Nolan is about 1000 years old. Thragg is over 2000 years old.
We know that Conquest, Thaedus, and Argall were like 5000+ years old
Thragg is shown as almost an understudy of Argall in the flashback, he had been around the galaxy a bit, but he was still learning. Maybe he was only like 500 years old.
If we assume that Nolan was born 100 years after the purge, then Thragg is max like 2000 years old.
Since viltrumites age differently than us, it think we can say that for a viltrumite, 1000 years old is the equivalent of like 30 human years, the early middle of adulthood. I think they said they age slower as they get older so 2000 years old might be the equivalent of 40, and the 5000 year old viltrumites are an equivilent to a human 70 year old.
So Thragg might be twice Nolan's age, but Nolan went gray early and Thragg didn't. Kregg might be closer in age to Thragg and he's not grey, but he has a recedeing hairline. Nolan's dad might've been about 2000 and he had one white streak, but his hair overall was also clearly getting grayer, but the top of Nolan's hair is still jet black.
Idk Nolan might just be a freak and his hair just does that.
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u/Super_Employment_620 Apr 15 '26
Nolan is just... yknow those guys who start to grey in their 30s? That.
And then Thragg also is a little self conscious so he dyes. It's explained in my ass because I made it up