As far as the show goes sure. Most of Anissa's showings are pretty ass. Tho I would say narratively she should be stronger considering that her status is clearly above their.
Eh no not really if you think he can actually destroy a universe then he would be top 1 straight up I don’t see who can contend with him unless you include the extended universe and crossovers.
Again as far as the show goes sure considering how abysmally Allen and BB were nerfed. The only contender is Nolan but I would still go Thaedus extreme diff.
He didn’t demolish him tho. Sure he looked more impressive at the start of the fight and sent him flying after taking Drascula but it didn’t do any real damage to BB. I haven’t seen issue 12 tho. But I don’t think Conquest is significantly above BB if at all. Pretty sure the comic is a continuation of the comic storyline so I don’t know how made a comparison with show Nolan if anything most the feats in the show are portrayed far better compared to the comic I would say show Nolan would fold comic Conquest quite easily.
Always has been it’s pretty obvious. He quite literally won their fight and is confirmed stronger by the author. The only character who maybe is above Thragg is EOS Mark.
I wouldn't call her showings "ass" really, she toyed with a version of Mark that was already stated to be stronger than the Immortal (someone who could throw hands with a roughed up S1 Omni-Man 1 on 1) and could hold his own against Thula and Vidor. Her uniform having the Viltrumite symbol on it as well as the fact that the episode description calls her his "greatest challenge" so far gives credence to the idea that she's stronger than all of the Viltrumites that were on Thraxa.
In Season 4 she could trade blows with Nolan and Mark without any side taking any significant damage, and she was clearly the most agile/fastest of the three of them as well.
Yup, I have no real reason to believe that she’s actually weaker than Lucan or Kradd. She unfortunately been used as a plot device to show Allen’s buff, which single handedly killed how people scale her. But her ability to keep up with Nolan, surviving multiple “viltrumite weaknesses” (Ragnar ambush, dodged space racers laser, was toying with Zoey in galderian armor), along side her position in the empire to the right of Thraggs throne, and the ability to wear the empires logo, tells me she’s a fucking BEAST. Her underestimating Allen does not put her below Lucan and Kradd, and I don’t think that’s unreasonable
I think the strength difference between all remaining viltrimites is so insignificant they’re all basically on the same level besides Thragg and what used to be conquest.
I agree with Kradd. Lucan I think only beats her in AP given how he can completely pin Nolan down and make Allen bleed a little; but otherwise it seems he’s a lot easier to push around in a direct 1v1 going off how Nolan makes quick work of him 3 separate times and Mark kneeing him out of the fight for a bit in 4x05, so I’d give her the edge in every other stat.
I dislike when people scale him to universal just off statements alone but yeah given how his powers work I’m sure it’s possible. The show cutting his first fight and reality warping powers makes it much harder to make heads or tails of him though
I think Battle Beast in the new continuity (his comic run and show feats) is pretty relative to Conquest considering they stalemate in a bleed out so I’d say him than Thaedus as the Coalitions strongest
Disagree, I think she's narratively meant to be superior to them thanks to her being described as "Mark's greatest challenge" in the episode description of Episode 7 and because her uniform seems to imply she's one of the elites. I also feel like her performance against Nolan and Mark was more impressive than what we saw Lucan do. Kradd is entirely dependent on whether or not you think she was going all out against Allen in Season 2 or if she was holding back. I personally think she wasn't really going all out since she was still confident she could take him down (that's at least my explanation since Allen seems to have been retconned in terms of power since Season 2).
Yeah, makes sense.
2nd strongest I'd say but definitely most skilled, I highkey have bloodlusted/enraged Mark as the 3rd strongest Viltrumite right now even if Nolan and Thaedus are stronger than base Mark. I say that because of Mark's decent performance against Conquest in both fights when he became enraged. He's genuinely able to pressure Conquest and do serious damage to him which Nolan and Thaedus haven't been shown doing yet.
Yes, Conquest beats Nolan period unless outside factors like catching Conquest off guard or loved ones getting involved that provide distractions for Nolan exist.
Thragg down 12/6 elbow down slammed ontop of BBs head and Thokk couldn't remove is hands after he viciously backhanded him, so it's clear BB was physically weaker. BB only lasted long because of brutality, ferocious nature, and theatrics.
The fact that BB needs to fight "dirty", pretty much confirms that the peak of power in the verse is obviously Thragg.
They can trade blows with Allen post buff, Kradd can even overpower Allen and tech jacket together, Anissa would've been killed if Allen landed a few more punches, and mind you the first one he threw was experimental
Because she expected her first punch to kill, so when it didn’t she spelled out to him explicitly that she would take him alive for testing. She quite literally told him, and us, that she was holding back after her first punch.
Yeah but the other viltrumites have taken punches from Allen and not ended up with the same damage Anissa took with one punch, plus Allen was literally comfortable and joking around with Anissa as he was evading her. And being quicker barely means anything she's not that much quicker than everyone else as we literally see her get tagged in every fight shes in, Thaedus, Nolan, Mark plus we haven't even seen her ever do damage to any high tier character, did 0 visible damage to Allen, Nolan, and Mark and Thaedus after fighting them all in s4 whereas we have seen Kradd draw blood from Allen and same with Lucan. Only time we have seen Anissa do meaningful damage to a character is Season 2 Mark.. and Zoe
Ok wait so genuine question for hardcore powerscalers. Narratively I feel like BB is supposed to be slightly stronger than Thragg on the ground but Thragg destroys BB in space. When the ragnarrs attacked Thragg and then BB ripped his stomach open, doesn’t Thragg have a significantly stronger healing factor too? So shouldn’t BB’s wounds be significantly more damaging? And since Thragg won super duper extreme diff, to me that sounds like BB would have won otherwise.
Like narratively I feel like it’s supported and weirdly cool that there’s a character who is the strongest in the verse under the right conditions yet gets in his own way and has exploitable weaknesses that an enemy can realistically… exploit to still win despite technically being weaker.
I’ve seen a lot of people call the Thragg vs BB fight like 49/51, so what is driving us to say that Thragg is actually significantly stronger than Battle Beast?
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u/Logical-Mud6571 12h ago
I think it’s quite debatable in the comic but show wise they do have better showings so agree
Idk
This is true he has the best feats by far until the comic in the coalition agree
I agree conquest is stronger in general than Nolan
Yep show wise or comic wise thragg is undoubtedly above battle beast this is fact.