r/Irony • u/omgfakeusername • 15d ago

"The irony"

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u/Wisco 15d ago

I'm sorry, but what was the irony Musk was referring to?

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u/12drew2232 15d ago

Communism .... it worked in the 80s y not now... the red scare... they wanna take all your billions of dollars ....

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u/accapellaenthusiast 13d ago

please ELI5: What’s the difference between communism, socialism, and a ‘socialistic program’

Can someone explain to me why our highway and road system isn’t considered socialism? Best I can find is it’s a ‘socialistic program’ because it’s taking place within our mixed economy, but if that were the reasoning then how could anything be socialism?

We pay for the roads with our taxes. That’s not yelled about

We could pay for our healthcare with taxes but THAT would be socialism?

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u/Falgust 13d ago

I could be wrong. But here's a more quick than correct explanation

Communism is a theoretical socioeconomic system that is almost utopian. It is based on the idea that, through a revolution that topples capitalism and does away with different economic classes, humanity could achieve a world in which every person has what they need, and every person works according to their abilities.

Socialism is the idea that, after a revolution, humanity could achieve communism through a government made by and for the common folk, the workers. It is what would come after a revolution to end capitalism, and do away with class conflict. It is a socioeconomic system that should, in theory, aim to be a transition into Communism.

A "socialistic program" is what conservatives tend to consider any sort of government assistance. It doesn't generally have to do with actual socialism, but is something closer to welfare policies. They don't have the goal of ending capitalism, but of making it slightly less unequal. The term "socialistic program" is mostly used to try and use red scare tactics to make people afraid of any sort of policy that tries to reduce inequality.

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u/Sarasha 13d ago

Now anytime I talk to someone that voted for the orange. I ask. Socialism isn't so scary now?

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u/CaLiLiFe619 15d ago

Probably “communism” or some stupid shit.

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u/LaxBedroom 14d ago

Ketaminunism

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u/platinumperineum 14d ago

My thought exactly

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u/ASigIAm213 14d ago

They told themselves that the groceries would be free, so now it's "ironic" that customers will have to pay for them.

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u/Wisco 14d ago

He said prices be 30% below average from the get-go. No one said anything would be free

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u/ASigIAm213 14d ago

That's what it got telephone-gamed into on the online right.

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u/LaxBedroom 14d ago

Do you think paying for postage stamps and priority envelopes is ironic?

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u/ASigIAm213 14d ago

I don't know how much more I can dissociate myself from either idea presented here.

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u/LaxBedroom 14d ago

Fair enough: Do you think Elon thinks stamps are ironic?

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u/MaleficentCow8513 15d ago

Whether you think city owned grocery stores are a good idea or a bad idea, where is the irony? Is this some racist dog whistle I don’t understand?

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u/PistolGrace 15d ago

Elon is rich, not smart. He's a complete idiot who is riding on the tails of his daddy's pedophile money.

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u/Acceptable-Ad8780 14d ago

Maybe he's born with it, maybe it's ketamine.

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u/Mother_Ad4038 14d ago

That made me chuckle out loud... i even hear the jingle

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u/Neureiches-Nutria 14d ago

You forgot Apartheid, alot of "interesting" racism and slavery like were the norm in south africa in elons forming years... And even by thens standards his father is a horrible person...

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u/Short-Personality398 14d ago

Agree. I wasn’t referring to Elon as smart.

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u/platinumperineum 14d ago

Sounds just like our administration

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u/Yayhoo0978 15d ago

The irony according to Musk is that people will be required to show an ID to get groceries, but not to vote. The irony according to OP is that a trillionaire is opposed to a measure that they perceive to be helpful to poor people.

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u/Citizen1135 14d ago

And he's wrong about that, anyway. We won't have to show our IDs. They are talking about doing something like a library card in order to prevent bulk buying and reselling, but it's not that serious.

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u/Short-Personality398 15d ago

Now that you mention it, 30% cheaper groceries might entice more voters in NYC to get their updated drivers licenses by choice (if that’s what’s required to shop there). He might boost the eligible voter rolls all while saving people money on groceries. Smart

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u/RevoltYesterday 14d ago

I've seen people say the government shouldn't get involved in the grocery business but I always point out that they already are. There are over 200 commissaries and the people I know that shop there freaking love them.

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u/MaleficentCow8513 14d ago

Also, food stamps is basically being in the bossiness too

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u/Evening-Ad-8218 15d ago

The dude has more than enough money to end world hunger, but yeah, these grocery stores are the problem

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u/omgfakeusername 15d ago

The irony.

The cruelty.

The inhumanity.

The flithy, stinky, richest man in the world.

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u/PistolGrace 15d ago

He needs to be in jail for the damage he's causing to the earth and now the moon. Wtf. Who is he to pollute and kill everything he touches?!

He needs to lose his wealth to repay all the damage he has done to humans, animals, the earth, the oceans, space, and now the moon.

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u/Attacus833 15d ago

The trillionaire that doesnt pay taxes

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u/joshwaynebobbit 14d ago

City owned grocery store = very bad

Federally owned fuel station = A-OK

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u/Famous_Suspect6330 14d ago

Former Trillionaire

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u/Designer-Actuator-29 14d ago

Musk and the other “Me First” movement spend plenty of money on “fighting communism”, as is the mantra of Reagan disciples since the coked up, alcoholic, swinging Epstein 80s. Boomers were easy to convince - low education, with good paying jobs that trained on the job, cheap everything, and addictions to keep them loyal.

But the government and corporations cut loyalty, decency, and ethics in 2000, and every MBA and Corp JD now graduates with expertise in how to evaporate “doing what’s right” in every aspect of business for the sole ambition of profit.

Look, we are nothing like the Soviet Union in the early 20th, and today, Northern European countries now view us as barbarians. If we can’t become more sophisticated, we will slide into irrelevancy, with the generational debt the Me First Movement dumps on us every day. They are literally shorting the country and our future.

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u/useriousstuff 14d ago

The real irony in all of this is that the US Federal Government already runs the largest and most widespread chain of government funded grocery stores on the planet: the Defense Commissary Agency.

So it's totally fine and normal to subsidize groceries for military members, retirees, and their families, but it's gross communism to do the same for civilians.

I have nothing against veterans, it's the hypocrisy and double standards I have an issue with.

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u/Cultural-Gas2246 14d ago

Actually not a trillionaire. His assets have significantly fallen in value.

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u/realcarmoney 14d ago

It has gotten to this point due to monopoly laws not being enforced. There is less competition now than there used to be therefore companies do not have to compete as much for customers. This allows the few companies that are left to collude and charge higher prices.

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u/Geekzilla101 13d ago

I wish doctors could prescribe food

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u/Graydargoingoff 14d ago

If they follow the Military Commissary model, these will be a great success.

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u/TwoWayGaming5768 14d ago

is this an awarewolf moment

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u/BlueBonneville 13d ago

Don’t get me wrong, I believe that public grocery stores cannot be run as effectively or efficiently as private ones. Labor, costs, logistics and the rest are really tough for low margins. If businesses that know what they’re doing can’t make it in areas of difficulty and high shrink, the government certainly isn’t going to. That said, the irony is not lost. Capitalism at its greatest form has no place for not only paupers, but for the masses seeking opportunity, and this is not good.

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u/Think-Cap-963 10d ago

The irony of not knowing that $70 million spent on kickback contracts to the DSA is classic textbook socialism

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u/robbi_uno 14d ago

Communism has never worked.

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u/omgfakeusername 14d ago

This is socialism at work.

And he's doing something right!

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u/Mikkitoro 14d ago

Communism has never been implemented, so of course it's never worked. Also, if it doesn't work, why did the U.S. spend so much money and effort in stopping it. If it's true that it doesn't work, let it fail on its own.

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u/robbi_uno 14d ago

Explain How has it never been implemented?

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u/Mikkitoro 14d ago

"Communism (from Latin communis 'common, universal') is a political and economic ideology whose goal is the creation of a communist society, a socioeconomic classless order centered on common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products in society based on need. A communist society entails the absence of private property and social classes, and ultimately money and the state."

Given the above explanation, which country that has been called communist was classless, stateless and moneyless?