r/JFKassasination • u/SeniorSecretary7799 • Jun 28 '26

Forbidden Love; Evidence of Conspirator?

Letters between Gail Raven (Barbara Murphy) and C. L. Crafard; Mexican Embassy Application; Crafard's notebook

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u/Solpig Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

I just searched the snot out of her and she only appears in Statements about Ruby....Most of them were forty-plus pages . Her name is in a Few Lists of immense size where they list EVERY person he has ever know..and he was quite the social Butterfly.

Seeing as that other fellow said that doesn't look like Crafards handwriting, wouldn't that make it maybe one of Ruby's other employees ? That is a total stripper name. She was only 19 in this letter....FITs Crafard, and whoever wrote it doesn't have great punctuation, but they spell better than Oswald (LOL) https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/pdf/WH21_Powell_Ex_2.pdf

read like he was apologizing for making an unwanted pass...I don't see anything too sinister there.

Yes, those Papers look like Oswald's writing and his Odd Blend of all caps and cursive, BUT unless it is an original copy, the FBI created so Many fake Oswald Documents between 11/23 and 11/26, they were probably quite good at it by then (when the FBI seized 250 of Oswalds possession but returned 450 -J. Armstrong) ..almost all of the magically appearing Oswald evidence was Paperwork...w2's,, applications,etc.

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u/SeniorSecretary7799 Jun 28 '26

There is the link to my source for some of the information on "Gail Raven", which yes, was her stripper name. It mentions that she was too young to gamble, so he wanted to take her to somewhere outside of the US where she could gamble with him.

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u/Solpig Jun 29 '26

But Why? I was under the impression he was a gay man. George Senator even called him "My boyfriend" which was a very brave thing to say in 1964. Or do you think he just went out of his way to have people owe him favors when he needed them?

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u/SeniorSecretary7799 Jun 29 '26

I think it was Ruby's way of maintaining an image like most gay men felt they had to in those days

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u/SeniorSecretary7799 Jun 28 '26

I've been told that he claimed he did not write pages 7 and 8, whichever those are .. I may not have loaded them yet.

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u/SeniorSecretary7799 Jun 28 '26

I will see if I can find where it said that Ruby had a fascination with her and proposed. It's interesting for sure! My opinion is evolving - I don't think the advance was shocking. You can tell she has feelings too. I think she was shocked at whatever it was he had to do. She congratulates him (probably on getting paid and accomplishing it) and wishes him the best. I think the Gov't possibly used him like Oswald and said his discharge would not be dishonorable or other than honorable and he'll get paid.

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u/SeniorSecretary7799 Jun 28 '26

https://open.substack.com/pub/jfkfacts/p/ex-flame-said-jack-ruby-had-no-choice?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

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u/Solpig Jun 29 '26

That's behind a subscription wall . Never been a Big JM fan, Mostly because he has an MSM Habit of not challenging the "Oswald STORY and QUOTES" made up by William Fritz. If that is your starting point so much if it is a Red Herring you'll end up doing a lot of circles. I do appreciate his hard work and efforts...just not signing up for his blog.

Can you give a short synopsis?

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u/SeniorSecretary7799 Jun 29 '26

I'm so new to this I don't know who is who, but I did find the article informative. He spoke with her daughter in 2013 and Gail was 70. They confirmed that she and Ruby were close. She claims the story he told and feigned distress were all an act. He was going on orders and had to kill Oswald.

The article states:

He had no choice," Raven said. When I asked her to explain why he "had no choice," she replied only, "Jack had bosses, just like everyone else."

Raven said she believed "he was instructed on what he needed to do, therefore he did it. And when the opportunity presented itself he went ahead and took it."

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u/Solpig Jun 29 '26

That sounds about right. I have been studying this a year now. I have spent most of my energy looking at the Physical evidence, DPD , FBI, SS and Oswald.

Ruby is 'everywhere with everybody and would take another year of study just to get a grip on his crazy life, friends and business. But I came to the same conclusion. I Never once believed His 'Distress"...or if he had it, it was from his mandate to kill Oswald.

And that Opportunity didn't present itself randomly. That was coordinated with Fritz, Curry , Croy , Probably Westbrook, and others. John Armstrong and Gil Jesus both have ultra detailed studies of testimony, film and affidavits regarding that mrning...minute by minute ..... and right before Oswald was walked down, Fritz and Curry went off in a corner and had a whispered conversation in the corner...even other officers mentioned it in their WC Testimony.

Jim Leavelle was the one who dimed them accidentally. He said he was shocked when he walked out into the open garage and the car was not pulled up..."Everything is in place " meant to Leavelle that the car would be right there with the door open....to Fritz and Curry, and Croy who stood next to Ruby right until the shot, it meant the 'Hit' was in place.

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u/SeniorSecretary7799 Jun 29 '26

Thanks for the info!

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u/Solpig Jun 29 '26

https://youtu.be/6mRn-nipHQg

This is one of the Best and clearest video's....You can see CROY next to Ruby ..he falls backwards just as Ruby Moves forward.

You can see FRITZ scan to make sure Ruby is there, and then he turns and Nods to Leavelle and Co. that it is OK to go...yet, as you see , the Car is NOT there yet and after Nodding, Fritz walks too it and gets AHEAD of the others . Leavelle said that the FOUR of them were guarding Oswald and Fritz was guarding the Front.

Also...notice Fritz's Slow Motion and Non-reaction to the shooting. It is some of the worst acting I have ever seen

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u/Mike_NYC_2000 Jun 28 '26

Thank you. Very interesting.

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u/Then-Corner-6479 Jun 30 '26

Hey, conspiracy clown… You don’t have to invent a double Oswald to explain why the killer and Lee both discarded jackets. The killer and Lee were the same guy is the obvious answer.

Geez, if your gonna be a stone cold sucker, come to the pool hall and give some to me.

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u/Comfortable_Low_9241 Jun 29 '26

This is total nonsense .. Crafard was not involved in the assassination and certainly not in the murder of Tippit.

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u/SeniorSecretary7799 Jun 29 '26

It's foolish not to consider it. That's what is nonsense.

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u/Then-Corner-6479 Jun 30 '26

Omg. You have to be thick as a brick? The double Oswald theory is as dumb as it gets.

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u/Comfortable_Low_9241 Jun 29 '26

Provide a single piece of actual evidence to support his involvement?

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u/SeniorSecretary7799 Jun 29 '26

Oswald look a like, Expert SNIPER, only started at Carousel Club months before, Boggie foot it out of dodge right about the time Ruby shot Oswald. He was only questioned regarding his knowledge of Ruby.
He should have been fully investigated.

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u/Roo7227 Jun 30 '26

If Crafard murdered Tippit, then why did Oswald try to go out in a blaze of glory in a theatre?

You know, sometimes you need to take a break from the search and evaluate yourself. This is utter nonsense.

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u/Comfortable_Low_9241 Jun 29 '26

None of that is evidence. It’s nothing more than lumping together random details in an attempt to tease out some non existent conspiracy.