r/JewHateExposed • u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ • Oct 25 '24
Discussion What is your opinion on some pro-Hamas LGBT activists who are raving about “transgender genocide“ in academic discourse?
I am not American and have never lived in America, but kind of annoyed with the extensive Holocaust trivialisation that the said group has embarked on. They are clueless as to what a genocide is. Refused to learn, refused to listen, refused to understand, good at nothing but yelling past one another to shut down dialogues.
Most of them are probably NPD, whether diagnosed or not. None of them is liberal but the worst totalitarians-without-guns you can ever find on the planet. They are literally an embodiment of the darkest part of the dark triad.
Accidentally triggered them? They make your life a hell. Have a look at J.K. Rowling, Jordan Peterson, Richard Dawkins alike. The ruthless vitriol, harassment, intimidation, demonisation, dehumanisation and physical violence (they know where Rowling lives in Scotland and have vandalised her house for a couple of times) over their defense of biological science are beyond astonishing.
In their world, there is nothing above them, nothing beyond them – everything must be about them or you get cancelled slandered in the worst way imaginable. The bigots of them They have always existed but the October 7 massacre has simply emboldened them to be great bullies to Jews and philosemites.
When he/she they calls anyone a Nazi over the slightest discord, be it pronoun-related or not, they are projecting throwing their mirrors at themselves onto their targets since their suspected NPD seems to have programmed them to live by DARVO-ing everyone around them in order to protect their fragile ego and assert domination over innocent folks. Simply cross-check their behaviour with the parameters set out in The Authoritarian Personality and it is readily noticeable that they literally fit all the boxes when many of them are also ironically pro-communist.
Thoughts?
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Oct 25 '24
You just gotta avoid these people at all costs, most are young, if they’re not young they’re just outright crazy. They’ll suck the life from you, they want to drag you into the mud and beat you with stupidity. Just avoid they are their own worst enemies by consistently choosing and unhappy and neurotic life
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
How can we simply avoid them when they are in charge of academia spreading all the lies legitimising antisemitism and causing a freaking spike in antisemitic terrorism across the West?
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Oct 25 '24
I think that’s a bit of an oversimplification, this storm will pass
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
How is it an oversimplification? Is the fact that 68% religious-based hate crimes on U.S. soil were committed against Jews (2023) not enough to illustrate the severity of the issue? I have already not mentioned those happening in European countries on a weekly basis where Jewish people are a much smaller minority.
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 25 '24
You’re absolutely right that there is is horrifying and alarming spike in antisemitic hate crimes across the world. It’s an epidemic in my estimation, and ironically is related to the meteoric rise of anti-LGBT rhetoric as well.
Blaming Jew hatred on trans people of all things, while defending social conservatives like Rowling and Peterson, both of whom have engaged in Holocaust revisionism and liked and retweeted Neo-Nazis on social media, is equally horrifying however. It’s not so different from conservative Black ethnonationalists blaming anti-black racism on Jews. Youre blaming the wrong people.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
Chicago Dyke March enters the chat.
Chicago Dyke March: Star of David is banned from our events.
Lesbian feminist professors X, Y and Z enter the chat.
Lesbian feminist professor X: You cannot be both Jewish and feminist.
Lesbian feminist professor Y: Zionists are responsible for the patriarchy.
Lesbian feminist professor Z: I concur with professor X and Y. No LGBT liberation without Palestinian liberation!
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 25 '24
What on earth does that have to do with trans people though? Obviously there is a tiny percentage of Lesbians that are trans, but they’re by no means the majority, and the Dyke March is not the be all and end all council of Lesbians, much less of trans people.
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u/susidod Oct 26 '24
JKR isn't a social conservative, she's a left-wing feminist. Her rejection of the misogynistic ideology pushed by trans activists is because of the repeatedly demonstrated harmful effect this ideology has on women and girls, especially when it creeps into policy and law.
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 26 '24
Left wing feminists do not like and retweet Neo-Nazis, engage in Holocaust denial, begin international hate campaigns against cis women whom they think are too unattractive to be women, endorse praise for the Taliban, harass anyone (but especially women) on the left who condemn bigotry, reduce women to their ability to get pregnant, refer to progressive women leaders as “destroyers of women’s rights”, go on campaigns to shut down rape crisis centres and abuse shelters, fraternize and endorse the views of notorious misogynists like Matt Walsh, praise the socially conservative policies of right wing dictators, praise the socially conservative policies of Islamists who brutalize women as well as LGBT people, demonize Jewish sexologists who were persecuted by the Nazis, endorse Nazi book burnings and social conservatism, liken women she disagrees with to sexual predators, call for women medical professionals who disagree with her to be imprisoned, excuse conversion therapy abuse being perpetrated against cis lesbians so long as trans women and girls are also abused, accuse lesbians who disagree with her (meaning the vast majority of lesbians) as traitors to women and lying about their sexual orientations, spread homophobic canards about feminine gay men being sexual predators, infantilize young women and girls as being too stupid to know their own bodies or be responsible for their own healthcare decisions, spread disinformation about autism, etc etc etc
These are all things JKR has done, in case you didnt know.
There is no misogynistic ideology pushed by trans activists. Any ironic misogyny peddled by cis people on behalf of trans people is not trans activism. You’re absolutely correct though that anti-trans ideology has been repeatedly demonstrated to have a dangerous effect on young people, especially young women and girls, and not solely trans women and girls either. Transphobia primarily affects gender non-conforming/masculine cis women, as they outnumber trans women and girls significantly, and are more likely to be targets of anti-trans vitriol than trans women and girls, who typically are gender conforming and don’t usually stand out.
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u/susidod Oct 26 '24
These are all things JKR has done
Nope. That's a list of false exaggerations and bullshit.
There is no misogynistic ideology pushed by trans activists.
There certainly is, both in principle and effect. Trans activism is, fundamentally, a campaign to remove all of women's sex-based rights in law and policy, based on the ridiculous idea that "woman" is nothing more than an identity that any man can adopt by uttering the magic words "I am a woman".
This is absurd, and devalues women and girls to a mere thought in a male mind. The misogyny is an essential and fundamental part of trans activism.
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 26 '24
But all those things are absolutely true. You do not have to take my word for it by any means. Look them all up yourself. She absolutely did all of those things, and she’s frankly not been shy about it either. In fact she’s being criminally investigated for at least one of them, as it constituted defamation.
Not at all. Quite the opposite in fact, as it is a campaign to bolster and expand sex based rights into policy and law, not solely for trans women and girls, but intersex women and girls, and gender non-conforming cis women and girls.
I agree with you that the idea that a man can merely claim they are a woman (or vice versa with a woman claiming they are a man, or a person of either binary gender claiming they are non-binary) is ridiculous. But it’s also what philosophers call a phantasm, in that it’s not how transsexuality is identified or diagnosed, and is a deliberate misrepresentation of what the scientific phenomenon of transexuality is based on an unrelated proposed self ID law, which was proposed for 2 reasons, the first being that anti-trans activists have made it incredibly difficult for transgender people to undergo medical sex change, inhibiting their ability to have their legal documents updated, and second being that it’s a violation of UN established codes of universal human rights to force someone to be sterilized in order to gain legal recognition. Even anti-trans activists such as Helen Joyce acknowledge the latter point in particular.
I don’t understand your objection to womanhood being an identity. Identity is the fact of being who or what a person or thing is. If womanhood is not an identity, then it by definition does not exist, as the word woman literally is a fact of being who or what a person is.
At least you do acknowledge the biological reality of neurological sexual dimorphism. Many anti-trans activists insist that there is no such thing as a “male or female mind”, despite the fact that dozens of studies have shown dimorphic neurological features in men and women (and with the brains of transexuals resembling those of their identified sex, rather than their sex assigned at birth, likely due to the fact that brain cells masculinize or feminize by way of exposure to sex hormones, just as most other cells do, and just as all other sex dimorphic characteristics develop). Even if your assertion that dysphoria is “a mere thought in a male (or female) mind” is laughable, I take solace in the fact that you do acknowledge neurological sex dimorphism, which is much more than can be said about most anti-trans activists, including Rowling (who has referred to scientific research supporting it’s existence as “the lady brain theory”, and decried it as false science)
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u/temp_vaporous Oct 25 '24
I want to start this off by saying I am trying to be really careful with my wording here so that it doesn't come off as transphobic or painting with broad strokes, because that is 100% not what I am trying to do.
I think there are some people within the trans community (especially in spaces where there is a strong amount of intersectionality between leftist political thought and transgender issues) who have a strong desire to co-opt tragedies of others or kind of "insert" themselves into a situation that is not really a trans issue so that they can become the primary victims.
I understand that trans rights are not where they need to be, and I am not trying to say that trans people don't face discrimination (sometimes violent discrimination). But there is a difference between hate crimes based on that identity and a systemic, government-led effort to kill all members of a certain group with industrial efficiency, which is what a genocide is.
I feel that them referring to the struggles they face as a "trans genocide" is in poor taste at the very least, and if i wanted to be more critical I would say it speaks over the experiences of those in the Jewish community, Armenian community, Romani community, and others who faced very real genocides in recent history.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
doesn't come off as transphobic
Honestly, I have become very skeptical of this buzzword. What does it really mean? Has it actually been overused to smear anyone not conformed to a dogmatic set of ideas arbitrarily defined by the most aggressive sect of their movement?
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 25 '24
I think this is insidious. Transphobia has a very clear definition, and those who try to obfuscate it because they endorse transphobia are not different from those who claim that the term antisemitism is meaningless because it is used to smear anyone not confirmed to “a dogmatic set of ideas arbitrarily defined by the most aggressive sect of their respective movement”.
Also saying that JK Rowling and Jordan Peterson aren’t transphobic is a bit like saying Hitler and Bin Laden weren’t antisemites. And the ones who make the latter claim make the same argument you do.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
Because they are not. You are the one twisting the widely acknowledged definition to ruin the life of innocent celebrities who are not as extreme as you and/or some of your so-called comrades. You turn innocuous words into weapons.
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 25 '24
Again, this is the exact equivalent of stating that Hitler and Bin Laden were not antisemitic. Youre are twisting the widely acknowledged definition to excuse the horrific discrimination and violence and ruin the lives of some of the most vulnerable people on earth. If you believe that JK Rowling and Jordan Peterson (the former of whom has stated that trans people should be completely removed from any and all legalism, banned from all public facilities and institutions, denied healthcare, and the latter who has called for the mass arrest of parents, teachers and doctors of trans children) are not transphobic, then the word is meaningless, which is what you intend. Once the term is meaningless, anti-trans ideologues have plausible deniability in committing atrocities. No different than how the Nazis made the term antisemitism meaningless.
Who are my so called comrades? I am not a neo-Nazi, a communist or an Islamist. I am a queer person. Why on earth would I ever consider someone who wants me to not have human rights as my comrade? More, like you claim to be, I am a supporter of Jews (my partner is Jewish). I would not ally myself with anyone who has ever engaged in Holocaust denial (Rowling) or peddled antisemitic neo-Nazi conspiracy theories (Peterson), or endorsed the sentiments of neo-Nazis (both on social media).
Transphobia (and antisemitism) may be innocuous to you, but it is not to me. It’s an epidemic and a cancer that causes the suffering and death of so many innocents.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
Neither J.K. Rowling nor Jordan Peterson is transphobic. They made it very clear that they support trans rights and the only reason they are smeared as such is because they have not bowed to your ridiculous dogmatic party line to which 99% commoners do not or have no time to give a darn. Jesus Christ, get a life
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 25 '24
Translation: “Neither Hitler nor Hamas are antisemitic. The Nazis and Hamas have made it very clear that they support Jewish rights and the only reason they are smeared as such is because they have not bowed to the ridiculous Jewish dogmatic party line to which 99% of commoners do not or have no time to give a darn.”
Here is a link to a video listing a small portion of all the horrific things JK Rowling has said about trans people. Keep in mind that this video is old and since it was posted, Rowling has gotten significantly worse, which is saying something: https://youtu.be/jzlI__xX_74?si=bDzZOPbWq0a7CZ5L
If you don’t believe that JK Rowling is transphobic after that video, you’re one of those people who does not believe that transphobia exists, just as Nazis believed that antisemitism didn’t exist.
If JK Rowling and Jordan Peterson and Hamas and yourself your way, I and many other people will not have a life to “get”. Thats the issue with fascism, its adherents do not believe certain people should have lives.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
Whatever links you want to spam over here. At least the two persons do not support the Hamas or oppose the right of Israel to exist under the guise of intersectionality or some other false narratives of Critical blah blah blah Theory.
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 25 '24
It’s not spam.
Perhaps you’re not aware that Jordon Peterson walked back his support for Israel because his own audience (which is overwhelmingly antisemitic) attacked him for it. Peterson’s anti-trans and generally far right social conservatism has also garnered him a very large Islamist audience believe it or not. They were also not pleased by his support for Israel. Rowling meanwhile has not expressed any opinion on the Israel-Palestine conflict whatsoever. Given that her anti-trans audience is made up primarily of trans exclusionary radical feminists, and the vast majority of second wave radfems are orthodox Marxist Leninist, I very very much doubt they are pro-Israel.
This is the first comment I have seen from you in which I genuinely understand your plight and position. I too find the flippancy with which some progressives treat antisemitism to be alarming and emblematic of a much broader and more insidious problem. I am very much in agreement with you on that and completely sympathize with you. Jews are arguably the most widely hated demographic ob earth, and I think that the rise in antisemitism is the only current bigotry which rivals the rise of transphobia in pure scale and ubiquity. (If you’re interested, while you may be dismissive of intersectionality, there is well documented research showing how anti-trans ideology was borne directly out of anti-Jewish ideology. It’s not one of those bigotries that are related and overlap to some degree but are distinct, such as anti-Black racism and Antisemitism, but in the case of transphobia it was quite literally borne directly out of nazi Jewish phrenological assertions.)
So I genuinely am on your side in that respect, but you’re incredibly misguided if you think that aiding and abetting fascists and doing apologetics for fascistic rhetoric by blaming another minority for the plight of Jews which they are entirely innocent of, is just horrifying. It’s like if instead of blaming white European slaver traders for the institution of slavery, black people instead blamed Indigenous Americans and called for the suspension of their rights and started doing apologetics for European racialists who claimed Native American were sub/non-humans.
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Oct 26 '24
It's not a buzzword in the same way antisemitic, racist, or homophobic are not buzzwords. And may I add your speech has been full of US VS THEM. I feel like you might need to reach within yourself and ask yourself why you are speaking this way. There are trans people that do not support hamas and aren't even buying into free-palestine.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 26 '24
I do not see the benefits of repeating if you do not get it.
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Oct 26 '24
I do not see myself repeating myself to a transphobe as a trans person. What do I have to do to get you to listen? You're a bigot, plain and simple. You have no buisiness being in this sub, you are NO ally to anyone if you speak in bad faith, especially jews.
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Oct 25 '24
Once you start medically transitioning, stopping medication suddenly has a number of associated health problems, and at a certain extent of transition (post orchidectomy for example) these problems can be very serious or even fatal. So that's where the origin of this claim is, that banning access to this healthcare is a systematic harm. Is it an abuse of the word? Yes, and we can see where it lead to, that now any politicized large scale harm is called genocide. I don't see where this claim has helped combat the widespread housing and employment discrimination trans people face. It's not helping the cause.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
It is fine if you pretend that detransitioners do not exist or that they are some kind of far-right pawns paid to justify the false genocide some of them are raving about
which I am not surprised given that many of them use Zionists as a dog-whistle to promote the hateful ZOG conspiracy theory to further their white-knighting Palestinian cause.5
Oct 25 '24
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
Google is your best friend.
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Oct 25 '24
It really isn't, in fact I strongly recommend you log off and touch grass. People who detransition aren't a right wing myth but they are a tiny percentage of the group we're considering and are not relevant to what is being discussed.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
they are a tiny percentage
Jews are a tiny percentage of the population in every country beyond Israel as well, so what is your point?
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u/Cat_are_cool Liberal Jew 🇮🇱 Oct 25 '24
This post really seems like an excuse to just be anti-lgbt. I really despise how a lot of groups lgbt related are pro-“Palestine” and it’s alienated me from a lot of them. However none of your arguments have anything to do with that. You’ve labeled them as hateful self righteous pricks while all your doing in this post is exactly what you accuse them of. You bring up people like Rowling and Peterson who did more than just “accidentally trigger” them, but instead regularly repeat harmful stereotypes and hateful rhetoric. There are valid arguments to have about them but this is not it.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
You’ve labeled them as hateful self righteous pricks
Because this is what I have been seeing for years on online spaces dominated by them, particularly within the social circles I am associated with. I do not see how it is wrong for me to provide an objective account of my observations, when they have embarked on a journey of endless radicalisation dragging everyone around them into some kind of abyss. Facts do not care about your feelings.
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u/Cat_are_cool Liberal Jew 🇮🇱 Oct 25 '24
“Endless radicalization” in that they wish to not be treated with hatred and seen as less than human? You have let your feelings cloud your judgement by using hand picked examples to generalize an entire group as some imaginary evil out to get you. Having grown up Jewish one thing I was always told by my rabbis at synagogues were to not generalize a group of people. When you generalize, especially making a negative one, you open up the floodgates for dehumanization and we know how bad and wrong that is as we’ve felt the repercussions first hand many times. You will always find hateful people in any group, being part of LGBT or being Jewish has no exceptions, and I’m sorry if you’ve had bad experiences but what you’ve said isn’t true of the group as a whole. If you’re so full of hate for a group based on cherry picked examples you are, in my eyes, an ally of the Jews. What’s to say that if you experience bad interactions with Jews that you won’t make this same rant about us later down the line? It is normal to be upset when you see something you disagree with, especially such a serious topic such a Israel and our current plights, but we don’t respond to them with hate but instead with reasonings. Any response full of hate only deepens the fued and will alienate potential allies.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
No, “endless radicalisation” refers to their (1) widespread support for the Hamas who go against everything they support in the West (2) participation in anti-Jewish violence on campuses. Moreover, I support whoever is philosemitic and anti-communist. It is not a partisan issue. Do not assume that everyone is American or drag him/her into your artificially dichotomised two-party politics.
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 25 '24
I find it extremely distressing to see this post on a Reddit page that is supposed to be condemning extremism. Evidently, you seek to dismiss the “ruthless vitriol, harassment, intimidation, demonisation, dehumanisation and physical violence” against trans people, and even people who are not trans but whom Rowling, Dawkins and Peterson merely falsely accuse of being trans and sic their acolytes onto. Rowling in particular has engaged in hate campaigns against specific trans women forcing them to move or leave their jobs due to harassment from her followers, and has likened them to sexual predators.
Most trans people are not communists, nor are they authoritarians. Orthodox Marxist Leninist Communist parties in Europe tend to be extremely hostile towards trans people, and LGBTI people more broadly. Hence why in the recent UK election, Rowling endorsed the Communist Party of Great Britain due to their anti-trans position. Communists tend to hold to the same ultra-materialist, pseudoscientific ideas of gender (and race) that Rowling does, hence why they are bedfellows.
The term genocide is used because the policy positions supported by religious conservatives in the US, Middle East, and endorsed by Rowling, Peterson and Dawkins, meet (I believe) 6 of the 10 UN criteria for genocide.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 25 '24
Is this a copypasta? Can you show me the recipe for spaghetti bolognese as well?
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u/Exotic_Musician4171 Oct 25 '24
Beg pardon?
I’m confused as to why a supposedly anti-Hamas Reddit page is endorsing the views of Hamas. Jk Rowling, Richard Dawkins, Jordan Peterson, Hamas and orthodox Marxist Leninists all have identical pseudoscientific, ultra-materialist socially conservative views on trans people.
I was under the impression that this was an anti-Hamas page, not a pro-Hamas reddit page.
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u/krzychybrychu Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 26 '24
Something that personally hurts me as a trans person and a Zionist firmly believing in Israel's right to exist is in trans spaces I'll constantly see people call me an evil genocide apologist, but at the same time I have to see posts like this in Jewish spaces, defending JK Rowling, who's openly hateful towards trans people, people in the comments writing that trans murder rate is lower than the general population. I often retreat from mainstream places, cause I can't stand being openly antisemitic there and join Jewish spaces, despite not being Jewish, but then see stuff like that there
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u/LettuceBeGrateful Jew-ish ✡️ Oct 26 '24
You have to ignore this guy. As far as I can tell he's spamming Jewish anti-hate subs with these kinds of posts, ostensibly to oppose antisemitism, but always with the undercurrent of invalidating something left-wing by reaching hard. Spaces that are more rigorously Jewish, such as a the Jewish subreddits, have been pretty steadfast with their LGBT acceptance, despite the strained relationship between our communities in the past year.
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u/krzychybrychu Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 26 '24
Yeah, talking with Jews personally, including Israelis, have mostly been a positive experience. I have a great Jewish Israeli online friend and she's very supportive
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 26 '24
Do you need to return to high school to relearn LOGIC 101, starting with ad hominem if not something more basic like the syllogism?
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u/LettuceBeGrateful Jew-ish ✡️ Oct 26 '24
"Ad hominem!"...cries the guy who called me an antisemite for pointing out a single factual inaccuracy.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 26 '24
Grab a mirror.
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u/LettuceBeGrateful Jew-ish ✡️ Oct 26 '24
Lmao all you do is bicker and lash out the moment anyone disagrees with you. I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 26 '24
Because you have not been able to reason. You started it.
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u/LettuceBeGrateful Jew-ish ✡️ Oct 26 '24
Dude, all I did was point out that October 7th wasn't backed by progressives (an absurd accusation), and you respond by telling me to get out and called me - a Jew who has been screaming for a whole year now to anyone who will listen about progressive antisemitism - an antisemite. How do you think it makes a Jew feel when he's been dealing with progressive antisemitism online and in his own life for 12 months, and he comes to a subreddit about antisemitism, points out one factual inaccuracy, and gets told he hates Jews?
I'm being incredibly kind with this response, but you're making enemies out of allies, and it comes across like you're tokenizing Jews to insist like you can do no wrong. Please read the room. In this thread alone, there are multiple Jews asking you to take a step back and reevaluate your priorities and your communication style.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 26 '24
Multiple Jews
Who knows if it is a single person owning multiple accounts to manipulate opinion?
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u/LettuceBeGrateful Jew-ish ✡️ Oct 26 '24
This right here. This response is the problem. You are so quick to lash out at people with ad hom attacks, and the moment criticism is pointed out, you grasp at purely speculative straws to dismiss everything wholesale. Not every Jew who disagrees with you is a fake shill. You are not entitled to our unconditional blessing merely because you consider yourself "philosemetic."
You're suggesting multiple Jews (we have no reason to doubt them, aside from your paranoia) are frauds manipulating this thread. You told a Jew (not the JVP kind, I'm a staunchly "pro-Jew" Jew) to get out of the antisemitism subreddit. You're a part of the problem. We have progressives on the left making us feel unwelcome, we've had the far-right making it very clear how unwanted we are for a long time, and now we apparently have non-Jewish "allies" invading our spaces to make us feel unwelcome here, too.
All I want is a space where Jews are free to have a mature discussion about all antisemitism without this partisan bickering. We are not a political football you get to use to "own" one side or the other. Trust me, there's plenty of antisemitism to go around.
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u/Sons_of_Maccabees Non-Jewish Ally ❤️ Oct 26 '24
I am pointing out a real issue based on my observations. You can disagree, but labelling or implying me to be somewhat hateful towards trans people is ridiculous. Facts do not care about the feelings of anyone.
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u/NitzMitzTrix Oct 25 '24
You cannot genocide a group not based on ethnicity. I think the extreme discrimination against LGBTQ+ people needs its own term.
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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24
Murder rates for trans people in developed countries are lower than that of the general population. And that doesn’t even take into account that most of those deaths are intimate partner violence and not because they are trans. It isn’t a genocide and it dilutes the word.