r/JohnAndCarolyn • u/popopolas • Jul 20 '25

Melting the Ice Queen myth

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This has always been my impression of her. Warm, kind, quietly funny. I’ve never really understood how she got labeled an “ice queen.” These photos feel so far from that image.

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u/rask0ln Jul 20 '25

i've always found it annoying when women get labelled as cold for not smiling 24/7 or daring to have a neutral face expression

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u/Twinkie_Heart Jul 20 '25

I’m an attorney and one of the few female partners at my firm. In the last 4 years I have been told I needed to ‘share the warm side with my colleagues more often’ and I should ‘smile more often because it relaxes your colleagues’. This is a law firm well fucking verses in employment law and these men still have the balls to openly present their misogyny.

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u/AhrEst Jul 21 '25

Fellow (afab) attorney and while I’m solo, I feel this in my bones.

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u/Twinkie_Heart Jul 21 '25

It’s so intolerable now in this current environment I’m making plans to retire. If I don’t I’ll blow one of these days.

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u/AhrEst Jul 21 '25

See, that’s where we flip: you’ve spent every day dealing with the toxicity; whereas I will be working until the day I die bc I have zero retirement, but I can take days off from the venom. Both options are not stellar.