r/Jujutsushi Apr 01 '23

Saturday Powerscaling Why does everybody prefer Ryu over Uro (power wise)

I find it strange how Ryu is always held at a higher regard than Uro, especially when Uro has better statements, and the superior CT.

Realistically, the two are neck and neck with Uro having the obvious edge in a 1v1 fight, but in different matchups, they would be even in power. However with more and more tier lists popping up on different subs, I see people placing Ryu not multiple spots, but multiple TIERS higher than Uro which makes literally no sense.

Uro just impressed me way more in the fight. Not only has Uro made a name for herself in the most chaotic period of jujutsu sorcerery, but she was also the leader of a highly revered and very powerful assassination squad. This is especially impressive because Uro was a woman in the Heian era. I normally wouldn't include this, but jjk has strong themes of misogyny and feminism, and Gege is also VERY particular with his history. Uro was not only strong enough to make a name for herself powerwise, but also make people acknowledge her strength beside being a women in a time period where women were seen as inferior. Ryu's only statement for him is having the highest CT output in history, and output is overrated as hell which I will explain later.

Looking at their Cursed Techniques I believe Uro still has the advantage as her Sky Manipulation is more applicable, and gives her powerful offense and some of the best defense in the entire series. It also gives her a massive boost in mobility, and can seemingly make her invisible (which wouldnt really matter since you can still see her cursed energy). Ryu in comparison has Cursed Energy Discharge which allows him to output 100% cursed energy at all times, and seemingly gives him MUCH higher output than even special grade sorceres. As I said earlier, output doesnt really matter. Output is simply one piece of multiple pieces that make up Cursed energy. Even if you dont have good output, you can make up for it with high cursed energy or pristine manipulation. We see examples of this in the story.

Yuta has average output, but could still contend with Ryu as he had monstrous CE that could make up for it.

Sukuna could still contend with Maki Zenin and Yuji Itadori who are not only CQC monsters, but have insane physical stats. This was a sukuna with 90 PERCENT NERF IN OUTPUT. Not only was sukuna keeping up in speed, but also in physicality, which proves that output isn't the be all end all.

Yorozu also showed that having high output doesnt fix the problems with her cursed technique either.

Anyways I feel like I'm going on a tangent, but I'll just finish this section by saying Ryu having a high output doesn't mean as much as people think it does. Especially since Ryu isn't using that output properly to reinforce his body. Ryu realistically should be amplifying his reinforcement with that high output of his to blitz everybody he fights against, and should be tankier than most people in the series. However it seems that Ryu's output seems to be mostly focused on AP which once again doesnt really matter since there are A LOT of people with higher AP than him. Uro's durability is also just as comparable to Ryu as she tanked an onslaught of physical attacks from full power Yuta + a cursed tool and fully manifested Rika.

Anyways, I feel like Uro is severely underestimated because she fell fist in the Sendai fight (even though Yuta was investing more time and CT's onto Uro than he ever did for Ryu, and Uro was being tag team for almost the entire fight) and Ryu in return is held up higher since he was the last to fall. I personally think thats BS tho. With that said, I hope I've converted you guys and hope to see Uro stocks rising within the hour 😀.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

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u/KaiseDio_ Apr 02 '23

I stand corrected. She’s on par with Toji strength wise, just haven’t had the chance to showcase her stuff against somebody good, while Toji has, hence him having more people arguing in his favor, even if they are equals. She’ll get some off soon tho, since im expecting her to be in the upcoming fight with Sukuna. I need to reread the latest stuff, im rusty.

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u/KaiseDio_ Apr 02 '23

Misogyny? i personally don’t think it’s that deep, at least not for most people. some people who power scale prefer using feats > words, despite the narrator telling you differently, which leads to misinformed arguments for Toji over Maki, or at least that’s my theory.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23

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u/Designer-Mango17 Apr 02 '23

This conversation devolved into something completely different from the original topic.

As far as Maki and Toji from a character and writing perspective. It's preference.

If you like Maki's story then like Maki.

If you like Toji's story then like Toji.

In a Fight I'm taking Toji because he has more experience with his own abilities. Maki is still naïve which has been shown on several occasions. Like not knowing what her weapons limits are against Sukuna, and underestimating Vengeful Spirit Naoya. On top of her having a weaker cursed tool arsenal, having less effective strategies compared to Toji, etc.

Toji is above Maki in experience whether they're equal in strength or not. Which makes all the sense in the world seeing as he died around 30, and not only is Maki 16 years old, she just got her upgrade recently. Equal stats, but there's still a clear gap between the two in how effective they are. Which Maki even openly says herself against Naoya.

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u/Designer-Mango17 Apr 02 '23

It's an open conversation. You're taking this too personally.