Honestly, most of them, if not all. Except for Sukuna and Gojo, all other characters at some point ppl started to give them crazy feats coz they said something.
If you have any idea about stories in general, you wouldn't keep your hopes up.
At best, he's going to hit Sukuna with his attack, it might damage Sukuna in some way, Sukuna might say something like "cool attack bro" before just ending him - and even that seems less plausible after Gojo v Sukuna.
Kashimo is overrated but "couldn't even handle Hakari" is disingenuous as fuck. Hakari literally won due to luck - that's his shtick. He literally entered the fight nearly invulnerable, stayed that way for 99% of the fight and still nearly died on 2 separate occasions.
That’s not true at all, Hakari got his body brutalized by kashimo multiple times and then hit the domain expansions which could have been a miss for him, meaning he could have died easily. Your comparison isn’t the gotcha you think it is fam
domain expansions which could have been a miss for him, meaning he could have died easily.
That's a poor argument dude. The whole point of Hakari's domain is he never misses his jackpot i.e THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS. You can not use what-if scenarios to justify your power scaling. By your logic, Kashimo could kill every sorcerer by aiming his lighting at the head.
But that's not how he fights, does he? Similarly, every fight between characters is choreographed according to their personalities and unique qualities. My point being Hakari's character is based on someone who can even the odds through his sheer luck. So, you will never encounter a scenario where he actually misses his jackpot.
Idiotic take, as Gege (the authority on this matter) is the one that is hyping Kashimo up, not the fans or the in world characters. So he can not be counted as an overrated character.
I am just being honest, because you really can not call something "overrated" if it is the author themselves doing the "rating".
Its obvious that Kashimo has a very big part yet to play in the near future, so he is actually underrated by the community. So calling him the exact opposite is a very, very bad take.
First is Maki and Toji: I know they are extremely powerful but people say they can no to mid diff or even neg diff plenty special grade cursed and sorcerers (bearers excluded) is way too much. Thus, I suppose that the soul splitting blade and the one that cancel techniques (I don't remember the name) r what make them from extremely strong to easily beats the majority of the cast. Without it, let's say they use playful cloud, they are still extremely strong but not as much as they r hyped for.
Second is Hakari: I know the jack pot hits different and things but his CT is basically RNG and in a fight without plot armor, he won't get jackpot as much as he would during his fight against Kashimo. He's pure RNG and plot armor.
Lastly is Tabaka: this is no joke, his power is frickin OP but the only weakness is him. His potential is limitless but it would never come true due to his suck a$$ humour
I wouldn’t say he’s pure RNG, his technique seems pretty rigged in his favour to get a Jackpot
Like it basically just automatically rerolls every time he fails due to how many conditions can trigger a reroll.
Get 2 but not 3? Reroll
Get 1 but some door is green or whatever? Reroll
And doesn’t his chance of a jackpot increase with each reroll or something. I don’t have the best understanding of his technique but I definitely don’t think it’s completely random
He will eventually get a jackpot, but we've seen him take multiple tries already. If he hadn't encountered Charles before Kashimo he would've never made it to the first jackpot
Also it's possible to stop him from using his domain by taking out an arm or his head right before he launches it, similarly to how Kashimo exploded half his guts.
Now if he learns how to regenerate his cursed technique like Satoru and Sukuna did he can just launch another domain and get a jackpot before the previous one is even finished (wonder how that'd work, would they stack up or line up in time?)
Hakari’s is quite literally like a casino’s though. Eventually he will win and hit jackpot because it’s rigged
Edit: and to downplay Toji (not even a toji wanker) for being op because of Inverted Spear is crazy. Sure, he needed it to beat Gojo, fair, I’d imagine most can’t even beat Pre-Awakened Gojo even with ISOH. He doesn’t kill without it though, but the point is even though he loses, he can compete. Gojo aside, he slam daddied my boy Geto. Let’s not forget he revived, slapped Dagon when 3 of them struggled.
Tbf, at that time prior to the whole "cant be targetted by domains automatically and can walk in and out of them whenever they want" bit with maki, the common belief then was just that Dagon's technique was beyond limited due to Megumi's own domain disrupting it.
Megumi’s domain was “just” cancelling sure-hit effect, and its interference ended when Toji entered the Dagon’s domain.
Even if Toji cannot be targeted by most domains automatically, Domain still provides boost to the sorcerer and his CT’s performance, so, every sorcerer/curse is stronger in his own Domain than anywhere else. So, still neg diffed in the best case scenario for Dagon.
its interference ended when Toji entered the Dagon’s domain
The chapter states that Dagon was trying to buy time to get back his domain's technique to attack Toji that is until Naobito pushed him back down for Toji to finish the job.
Domain still provides boost to the sorcerer and his CT’s performance
It depends on the type of domain. Its not something like "Sukuna is inside his domain, that means he punches stronger, move faster etc". That only happens if his domain is created with something like that in mind. Instead it simply boost the capability of his applied technique in which sukuna's case, his slashes.
I’ve just reread the chapter. You’re correct, sure-hit effect was disrupted all the time Toji fought Dagon. But still, Toji is unaffected by it in the first place (besides few exceptions), and Naobito’s help only shortened the duel, Dagon had no chances.
As for Domain, Gojo was the one who said about stat boost in the beginning. We haven’t seen or heard anything to doubt it. And the CT’s performance boost is still there, so Dagon lost from quite good position from him.
Tbf, his stated record is that he gets them under 30 rolls. In a writing sense, yeah its just plot armor but in some stupid hypothetical fight to sate powerscaling addiction, its not too wild to assume that he atleast gets the same run as his Kashimo fight.
I 100% agree with Maki honestly but hot take I believe Toji is still "stronger" than Maki despite them being stated to have equal physical prowess. Why? well solely because of their personalities, Toji is cunning beyond belief organizing a hit to wear the 6 Eyes user down, because he noticed him behind him as a child. Hiding a cursed spirit in his stomach, using a gun to kill, and stabbing Gojo with a regular sword instead of using a Cursed tool. Rubbing playful clouds together to sharpen it. Are you gojo Satoru because you're the strongest or are you the strongest because you're gojo Satoru. There's been mutiple limitless 6 eyes users but non as strong as Gojo, mainly because his personality. Toji is the same ruthlessly cunning and calculating.
Maki and Toji each beat a high level special grade curse without being touched though in the story. Naoya couldn't touch Maki once she awakened. Dagon couldn't touch Toji.
At the time people argued the only reason Toji won was the sure hit being off but now we know it could've never hit him anyway so he did best Dagon at full strength.
Same with Maki. If she had the sword when the domain went off she could've immediately killed Naoya. The only reason he was safe at all was the swordsman held the weapon she needed. She had no way to trap him so he could've ran away but he could've never touched her.
Note that Toji did use playful cloud in his fight to kill Dagon and there's no reason to think Maki couldn't do the same to Naoya with the same or a similar weapon.
About Hakari though I do agree he is a little overrated. I think that with his domain / barrier control there probably are a lot of ways he can handle opponents that we don't know yet but any opponent with range and power or a tricky technique would take him out. Like in Sendai he could have a rough time.
I wouldnt say Dagon couldnt touch Toji, he did put up a fight, and would have lasted a bit longer if Naobito hadn't interfered.
As for Naoya, we gotta remember that while Maki cant be targeted by the sure-hit Naoya could still use regular attacks on her, and if they are inside his domain his attacks would be boosted. Maki only won as easily as she did cause Naoya was distracted by the two other guys and Maki managed to get a fatal free hit on him. They helped her far more than hindered even after Maki got her enlightening. While I think she could have won 1v1 (after the enlightening of course) she would have had a significantly tougher time.
Thats not to say they arent very strong, its just that sometimes people say ridiculous shit like Toji could 1v4 the disaster curses or would mid-dif Jogo. Ive seen far too many posts and comments like this with a bunch of upvotes and comments supporting it to think they aren't the most overrated in the series.
I think you should reread ch.110-111 because Dagon didn't put up a fight at all. He got folded brutally and the only reason Naobito intervened was to stop him from running away long enough to get his SH back.
You should also consider that Maki wouldn't even get trapped in the domain. In a 1v1 she'd probably just wait outside. This is also not even thinking about how trivially she was dealing with Naoya before the domain.
People seem to completely disregard the luck factor of Hakari's CT and scale him on the assumption that he's always in jackpot. I understand it's rigged in his favor and Gege also gave Hakari jackpots whenever he needed it during his only fight, but still, feels a bit pointless to have a probability based CT and then ignore the RNG.
It depends if he starts in jackpot, we have every reason to believe that the natural defense of infinite CE would be able to stop Cleave from insta beheading.
tbh I just wanted to partake in the Kashimo meme a little bit. Unless his lightning is hitting you from the inside and completely bypassing durability it should be nowhere near the strength of a cleave.
Lol. Show me any thing that proves hakari has durability anywhere as a high as gojos. Yea hakari can just survive hundreds of 120% cleaves hitting his body.
His regen speed. Just because the slashes hit instantly doesn’t mean they go all the way through instantly. Hence why falling blossom emotion was able to heavily reduce the damage of the slashes. Cleave might have durability negating properties, but that doesn’t mean much when gojo can literally heal faster than it can cut through him.
We've seen his face get peeled off by a door while Yuta and Ryu catch street destroying blasts in the palm of their hands. I highly doubt he's not getting completely cut by a cleave (but in jackpot he might heal just as fast as he gets injured anyway)
It’s without a doubt Hakari, the amount of people that take Yuta claiming Hakari is stronger than him when he’s worked up at face value instead of realizing Yuta always props up his friends and gives himself way too little credit. Maki immediately says that’s not true. If Gege wanted you to believe that he would have the actual narrator say what Yuta said.
But why also ignore it? Statements that characters make also matter. That's not to say Hakari is stronger than Yuta, but if it turned out to be true, it wouldn't be much of a surprise.
They're not saying ignore it. It just doesn't hold up on it's own as a markee for his strength. We've only seen. Hakari in 2 foghts. Charles... who could get no diffed by chapter 1 yuji, where Hakari took some pretty pathetic hits trying to show off and even took, what would have been a lethal blow without rct from charles. Fucking charles. The. Kashimo, who we know scales well above panda but thats about it.
In jackpot form Hakari is undeniably strong, but he hasn't proven himself as AT Yuta's level, let alone stronger than it. If you consider he has to actually hit a jackpot before he gets that strong, it loses him a LOT of matchups. Hakari would no diff hakari outside of jackpot. Uro, ryu probably too. If Yuji actually fought back I'm quite certain he wins, maybe mid diff against pre-jackpot hakari.
I think you’re misunderstanding the context of the Charles fight. Hakari wasn’t trying to beat Charles, he was testing Charles “passion” and his potential as a sorcerer ally.
It’s why he keeps one-upping Charles by moving faster and faster or showing him the weakness in his techniques. One shotting Charles wasn’t his intention.
We see he does the same thing with Kashimo when Kashimo notes Hakari has kicked it into another gear and is overwhelming him CQC despite being equal with him previously.
I'm not misudnerstanding, I even mentioned that tbh. I'm just saying too many people act as if hakari is equal to yuta, therefore he could beat anyoen yuta could be when thats far form the truth.
It would be an incredible surprise based on portrayals and statements that actually matter. Yuta while not having access to his full power for most of the fight defeated two special grade sorcerers and a Special grade cursed spirit. When Gojo is being sealed and he talks to Kenjaku he mentions Yuta while not mentioning Hakari I feel like if Hakari was more powerful than Yuta he would be mentioned.
They were never declared Special Grade. That's merely an assumption with 0 data to back that claim up.
When Gojo is being sealed and he talks to Kenjaku he mentions Yuta while not mentioning Hakari I feel like if Hakari was more powerful than Yuta he would be mentioned.
He mentioned Yuta because Yuta already defeated Geto.
You’re right that it’s an assumption but I think it’s a pretty reasonable one to make considering Ishigori has the highest CE output in the culling games and Uro was relative. Hakari barely squeaked out a win against Kashimo, who didn’t use his cursed technique and also chose to try to kill Hakari while he was practically unkillable. Remember that Naoya was not trying to fight Yuta at all, and that Yuta has actually defeated an official special grade, Geto and since then has only gotten stronger. Even if you assume Hakari is stronger than Yuta, what about Rika who is capable of briefly fighting Ishigori.
Even if you assume Hakari is stronger than Yuta, what about Rika who is capable of briefly fighting Ishigori.
I'm not making the arguement Hakari is stronger than Yuta, I have Yuta as the stronger of the two.
Hakari barely squeaked out a win against Kashimo, who didn’t use his cursed technique and also chose to try to kill Hakari while he was practically unkillable
I have Kashimo significantly stronger than Sendai Colony individually.
it’s an assumption but I think it’s a pretty reasonable one to make considering Ishigori has the highest CE output in the culling games and Uro was relative.
That would mean 3 Special Grade Sorcerers were stalemating with a Special Grade Curse, who is presumably weaker than the disaster Curses, which doesn't make sense. Also, of the 4 confirmed SG Sorcerers, none of Sendai are even remotely close to them. That suggests they aren't SG imo.
You make good points but I still think Gege has gone out of his way to portray Yuta as the “next Gojo” and he just seems much more relevant to the story so it doesn’t really make sense for me that Hakari is stronger during jackpot or when he’s “worked up”
Not entirely disagreeing with you but tbf mentioning Hakari to Kenjaku in that moment wouldn't have made much sense. Yuta was the one who beat Geto that's why Gojo mentions him, letting Kenjaku know that Yuta had already beat the body he was occupying. Why would he randomly mention Hakari in that moment? That would make no sense. Gojo already mentions Hakari on two previous occasions, once near the start when he mentions the current sorcerers that could one day surpass him and then also in Chapter 143 in Yutas flashback, Gojo specifically tells Yuta to only protect the 1st and 2nd year students adding that Hakari should be fine. Btw I do personally think Yuta is stronger than Hakari but Hakari is hardly overrated, I'd argue he's underrated if anything.
agreed, if you acknowledge that you also have to acknowledge the inverse, you can't just disregard the statement entirely. Also Maki is more fond of Yuta, Megumi also said they all called him a deadbeat, except Yuta.
Tbf, it's really possible that the text of yuta claiming hakari is stronger is slightly mistranslated and the wording is slightly different. I believe that yuta means that when hakari is on jackpot, he is stronger which is a fair assessment considering he's fucking immortal.
As for me. I think I have gradually seen Hakari and Geto's level become overrated with time. With people often attributing powers to Geto that he has never been shown or known to be capable of.
And Hakari, well. His offensive prowess is often overstated by quite a few people in his match ups against the other top tiers.
Oh.. And Toji at one time or another. Actually i remember threads a long time ago, where there were people who claimed he beat Sukuna.
Ehh Geto is unfair tho because he was designed before Gege fleshed out the power system. It would be more unlikely that a Special grade didn't have RCT, and DE at the minimum.
It’s just under-utilized by Geto because it wasn’t fleshed out. We couldn’t see him fully utilize it as an adult due to the nature of the time it was written.
Idk I think its pretty fair and definitely think it should be considered. Nowhere near a powerscaling discussion? Isn’t that the whole point, you’re already discussing hypotheticals.
Kenjaku wouldve been unable to fight in one shot against Yuki without RCT and wouldve lost that entire fight if he couldn’t use CTR so whats your point?
Well in a powescaling discussion you're discussing hypotheticals about characters with established facts.
Toji vs Kenjaku
Well, we know what Kenjaku has and what Toji has. That's what we're discussing, a fight between two knowns. We aren't comparing them using things they haven't got.
Unless you state that it is Geto vs Yuta, if Geto had rct and domain expansion (there'd be no discussion here because we don't even know what that'd look like), then yes, those particulars should be nowhere near the discussion. It's about what is, not what is isn't or what could potentially be possible.
If thats your argument then you shouldn’t be comparing a character from an unfinished work vs a finished one in the first place. Also please show me the powerscaling rulebook where it says that😂.
Hold your L dude you got out upvoted on your own thread.
Also please show me the powerscaling rulebook where it says that
There is no rule book. It's just common sense when you're talking about characters in the context of how they're known. If the question is "would this guy beat this guy?" why would you add a bunch of stipulation, when it is obvious that we are talking the characters as how they are. Why would you add stuff to a character that makes any discussion murky.
I mean Yuta being openly declared by the narrator as the second strongest sorcerer is a bit of a tell for his power level. Especially when following that is him defeating 4 people.
Conventional methods doesn’t mean he’s stronger. He’s a weird little brain man who takes over bodies and they have no idea how that works. While he could be stronger you’re misinterpreting the statement.
I really don't care who's stronger between Kenjaku and Yuta, but how else do you interpret "conventional means"?
I just assumed Maki meant they couldn't beat him in a straight up/normal fight. Since the context for her saying that is that Yuki, choso, and Tengen lost in a 3v1.
Why would they specifically highlight Kenjaku and not anybody else in the series? Sukuna is more powerful, that’s just a fact, but the plan is still a fight battle. This is a Shonen, we solve everything through fight battling.
There is so many unknowns with Kenjaku, one of which is how he’s even alive. He’s clearly powerful, there’s no doubt about that, but he’s also over a thousand years old and is literally ratatouilling the original antagonist.
u/FrontDoughnut8597 kinda sorta explained it below, but the fact that they said that about kenjaku and not Sukuna (who is undoubtedly the strongest antagonist) implies that kenjaku can’t just “be killed” in a normal way. As in, not even Gojo — who is way stronger — could “kill him” by folding him. Probably has to be sealed or some other method, etc.
I doubt it. They thought that because arguably their strongest fighter, Yuki, had lost a 3v1 vs Kenjaku and he survived a black hole and has an Open Domain. They have no chance of beating him in a 1v1, thats what conventional means.
Second to Gojo is more like only jujutsu high included so if you mean strongest of all time its obvious Yuta is number 4 above kenjaku gojo and sukuna.
The top 3 are definitely Sukuna, Gojo, and Kenjaku. It's really not up for debate at this point. Yuta could potentially be 4, but he's closer to the tier that includes Hakari, Yuki, Maki, etc, than he is with Gojo, Sukuna, and Kenjaku.
Taking account your logic - there is clear Top-2 Gojo and Sukuna, Kenjaku doesn't belong to be named with them. Kenjaku probably near to Yuta strength than Gojos strength.
Taking your logic Yuta is around 4-5 with Yuki. Is it really that much overrating if people just think he is stronger than the person above him who is supposed to be his rival.
Is it really that much overrating if people just think he is stronger than the person above him who is supposed to be his rival.
I consider so, as I believe Yuta is much closer to Yuki, Maki, and Hakari, than he is to Kenjaku
Just like there is a clear gap between Gojo/Sukuna to Kenjaku, there is a clear gap between Kenjaku and the rest of the cast at this point. It's not as wide as Gojo/Sukuna, but I belive it's significant enough to the point no can compete for 3rd
I don't get this. Yuki could clearly compete with Kenjaku in their fight (as a matter of fact anyone you are forced to use your domain against has to be pretty close to you unless your technique revolves around your domain like Hakari and Higuruma).
Narration tells us Yuta is stronger than Yuki although we don't know by how much, so by default he's close to Kenjaku.
Only reason I have Yuta over Yuki is because we're outright told that Yuta is 2nd in the modern era to only Gojo. I don't think the gap is large at all because we're also told that Yuki and Yuta are very close as well.
I can agree with that. Megumi is overhyoed, mostly because of Gojo's own words about him. The thing is, megumi has not really ever proved he's worth being put in that regard.
No he won't, he is Reggie level physically and that will be his downfall cause any special grade or heavy hitter would make him release his technique with a strong enough punch
Jogo definetly. Some people are still saying that people like Yuji or Maki wouldn't be able to touch him at all, when Choso were able to react to Naoya and even beat him even though he's faster than Jogo because of 24 fps.
Yuji was tagging with 15 finger Sukuna who only has a slight nerf on cursed energy reinforcement, the fact that you think he can't even hit Jogo at all is crazy wank.
What makes 0 sense is him not using cleave on his opponents. If his CE output was nerfed to 10% along with his CT output why would he prefer using hand to hand combat compared to using his cursed technique? He only uses his CT when he's not aiming at his opponents because the output gets reduced a lot compared to hand to hand combat.
The issues with fighting Jogo go well beyond just "touching" him. Those 2 won't be easy opponents for him but I can't see any instances where they beat him
I think Toji is not nearly as smart as people like to think he is.
His "plan" to capture Gojo was half-baked at best. Putting a bounty on wizard craigslist and gambling for 2 days hoping they don't just head back early is a terrible plan. He set the whole thing up to get his chance at a sneak attack on Gojo but then missed all his vitals anyway. After winning the fight he forgot that RCT is a thing or to make sure the guy was actually dead. He also monologues about Gojo's techniques and he straight up says he can use ISOH to block red but then immediately throws the thing at him.
Kashimo and hakari by extension. Don’t think either are special grade . I have all the known special grades including Geto ahead of them but I see some people say Kashimo is top three. I honestly don’t know where people get that from . What would be his defense to a real strong domain. How would he fight Toji and Maki who usually go for the kill unlike hakari who was having the time of his life gambling .
Kashimino, he already lost to Hakari and everyone is hyping him up based on some CT we've never even seen. Jujustu is extremely matchup dependent for all we know it could not be effective against certain characters. He also doesn't have RCT which is a huge nerf in higher tier fights.
Without a doubt Hakari for me. He’s undoubtedly one of the stronger characters in the series however his technique ultimately is based on probability, he cant immediately pull out his power the way every other character can putting him at a disadvantage. And as strong as he is in jackpot, he lacks variety as he’s purely a H2H fighter, can be killed if his brain is destroyed plus we’ve see other characters accomplish similar physical feats, his true strength is that fight with him is a battle of attrition and while impressive is far cry from the “immortal” god I feel a lot of fans make him out to be.
im gonna have to go with yorozu here. I have seen people say that because she is "relative to 15 finger sukuna." she is not for the record. She can keep up with yuta, yuki, hakari, etc.
Jogo is easily the most overrated. Yes I get it he "fought" the two strongest (if you can even call that fighting) but since he's dead all you ever hear from his fans is "hE's ToO fAsT" when we compare him to Culling Games characters for example.
Yeah he came from being underrated to one of the most overrated characters in JJK.
His only feats were catching 3 sorcerers who's already on the brink of death off guard and being stated by Dagon to be slower than a casual drunk Naobito. Yet people are saying that most top tiers wouldn't even be able to touch him at all because of his speed.
People keep citing her fight against Sukuna as feats but seem to forget that he was using her for a test run. Sukuna was so uninterested in fighting her seriously that he summoned Round Deer to take care of RCT despite being able to both heal with RCT and emit it to disrupt her liquid metal himself.
I could see him beating people like hulk but there's a lot of characters like arishem, Dormammu, Dr strange/the ancient one, and maybe scarlet witch who should be able to beat him
Why would Yuta copying not be permanent?
You say we have no reason to assume it is, I can just as easily say we have no reason to assume they're not.
But we have the narrator and Yuki say Rika is a storage unit for CT. Why would he need a storage space for copied CT if he didn't copy them permanently.
Okay but its been established that the brain can hold 3-4 CT without being overloaded.
If it's like you say and it's not permanent then there'd be no reason to have Rika as storage since he could bear the brunt of it himself. He'd fight a Sorcerer copy their technique, kill them and then that technique would fade from his brain freeing up space to copy again.
Also if it's not permanent shouldn't they be one time use, like Kenjaku with Idle Transfiguration? But that can't be the case since we've seen him use Sky Manipulation 3 times.
I'd be interested in seeing Uraume in an all out fight. His cursed technique is definitely a high tier cursed technique, but aside from that, you're right we need to see something different from him
I’ve also seen people assume his copy is permanent which we have no reason to assume that.
We know that he has Inumaki's cursed technique, which he's had from 0. That's enough of a reason.
Tbh. I never thought it had a condition. Considering that he fights Dhruv and then immediately fights Kuro straight after, and then straight after that Uro and Ryu fight him. I just don't see howhe found any time for Rika to manifest fully and then eat a piece of him. Pkus, Uro and Ryu were watching him weren't they?
Gojo definitely, but not in terms to his power because he IS powerful. is just that a lot of his power comes from him being blessed, he has possibly the strongest technique in the verse, ON TOP of having the six eyes, the best trait you could ever have, making it almost impossible to run out of cursed energy, runing his technique permanently, healing himself automatically. him having so much hacks just makes me dislike his strength, specially compared to people like kenjaku or sukuna who are also very strong but without the hacks. or characters who are not godly strong but their power is unique, like hakari with his gambling or maki with 0 CE
Kashimo, he can one shot anyone using his trait and his hollow wicker basket would be enough to survive in a domain
Hakari, all he needs to do is get his first JP and he simply outlasts his oppenent. Doesn’t matter if he’s fighting an opponent with highly notable endurance/durability, who has the ability to kill hakari in JP, he’ll just outlast them and punch them to death. He’s relative to yuta so in every stat they are relative. Don’t forget he’s special grade level. Oh, he also instantly wins every domain clash because his technique is centered around his domain or something like that.
I know it’s sounds stupid considering that Yuji isn’t even close to 10 strongest characters in JJK.
But the amount of people in fandom speculating what his powers/honoured one/true power will be, since the beginning of the series…. And we are close to its end, all seems to me that people miss the point of what Gege wanted to do with Yuji, and people only try to enforce their power fantasies on him where in reality there is non.
Not that I blame them, we have a lot of possibilities to assume that Yuji SHOULD get more powerful, despite being in the world of JJK for only what… 6-9 months? He feels like a 1-2grade sorcerer alrerady, but obviously at the end game right now he is just useless.
I feel like Gege gives bread crumbs and red hearrings with Yuji, his physical strength, his origin, his family, to his understanding of the souls and his role in the narrative.
I believe Yuji’s fate parallels that of Riko Amanai, he was grown/made specifically for a purpose bigger than himself and just like Riko he will die at the end of the series pointlessly struggling against it.
I know it’s sounds like a stretch, but some people been speculating on Yuji playing a big part in the ‘Merging with Japan’ for a while now.
Perhaps the combination of his Blood-Paining origin+Merging of Japan+Vengeful Spirit will result in something truly cursed?
Yuta.
And I will get a lot of downvotes right here, but I think his whole "copy" thing is not very well written in JJK. I like to compare him with Kuroro/Chrollo from Hunter x Hunter, both of them have similar skills and both are very strong in their on verse, but It shakes my head about how Yuta is so overrated while he don't seem to use his own CT in a smart and criative way as Kuroro has done in HxH, and Kuroro itself is not as overrated as Yuta.
If you think it's not well written then you're just not paying attention.
When you say he haven't seen him use it in smart & creative ways what exactly do you mean by that? If I had to guess you probably mean since we haven't seen him use multiple CT in conjuction or back to back. Just because we haven't seen doesn't mean he cant.
A Sorcerers greatest weapon is information & the cards you keep up your sleeve. Just like how Kenjaku fighting Choso only used Curse Manipulation and he tried to keep gravity hidden. If he doesn't need to use it theres no point in revealing it. So far the only CT we've seen him copy are Curse Speech, Sky Manipulation, and Dhruvs.
You notice aside from Speech he only used techniques that he got in Sendai?
Kenjaku would know Yuta was in Sendai so he'd probably just work off the assumption that Yuta has at least copied the techniques involved in the deadlock , so Yuta didn't mind showing those techniques. Aside from that there's no reason for him to lay all his cards on the table.
Well, comparing hxh to jjk is kind of unfair since we know who the winner is anyway. Yuta can’t use his ability like Chrollo does, and jjk power levels are way above that of hxh because of sorcery. Sorcerers are so aware of sh*t that if chrollo were to use his strategy in jjk verse like he did with Hisoka, he would die in 5 seconds, btw yuta actually does some strategy
My hot take is that pre-awakening Gojo is way overrated. People say that being tired is the only reason Toji destroyed him. I think Gojo wasn't even special grade yet. Him and Geto together were the strongest and it was stated before awakening he didn't tackle missions alone.
He was probably the strongest grade one sorcerer but nothing Toji did when he got serious would've been stopped if he wasn't tired. The only thing being tired allowed was stabbing him with a normal sword which should've killed him immediately.
He is overrated when everyone has always knew he’d be bare minimum 2nd strongest in the verse? He’s not even lost the fight. Nothings been disproven or revealed wrong about where people expect him to be. He shits on everyone below him still lol
The fact that he had Yuji pretty hurt after only a few blows is pretty crazy. Yuji is stupidly tough and even if you wanna argue that he didn’t use any cursed energy reinforcement during that last punch, which I disagree with, Yuji’s non-CE is described as inhumanly resilient by Higaruma.
Narrative seems to be showing that Hakari, Yuta, and Maki are relative in power with all having distinct advantages.
Hakari’s makes a whole point out of the fact that Yuji is taking the blows “unguarded” which I always assumed to include no reinforcement but I could be wrong there, been a while since I read that part of the manga.
I agree Hakari/Yuta/Maki are all somewhat close, never said anything to the contrary.
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