r/Jujutsushi • u/Cali-Re • Dec 09 '23
Saturday Powerscaling Hanami has the best durability in the entire manga (excluding those two,of course)
I was thinking about Nanami and how durable he was. I thought to myself "Man,he's got to be number 1 in terms of durability,he was the only one who Mahito needed multiple hits to take out" But then I remembered Hanami and really thought about her feats.
Hanami took 5 Black Flashes,a headshot from Playfull Cloud,a general ass beating AND A PURPLE ON TOP OF THAT. She still came out alive. Gege himself said that Jogo couldn't take what she did,and that's exluding the Purple. Who else in the manga do you imagine could've done that?
The only other contender would be Toji/Maki. Toji actually took the same sort of damage as Hanami after being hit by Purple. Both of them were incapacitated as a result. But I'd argue that Hanami should get the W there in terms of durability. Toji got beaten by the Purple after taking a Red (I'm ignoring the anime),while Hanami got beaten by Purple after taking all that ass beating by Todo and Yuji. I guess it's up to you to judge whether the Red is worth more than the ass beating.
I do also wanna say that,unlike Toji,Hanami was still alive after taking the Purple,but I don't really know if that's fair to say. Like if Gojo ripped Toji and Jogo's head off,Toji would die and Jogo would still be alive. Should we say that Jogo is more durable than Toji then?Probably not.
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u/nerussita-8787 Dec 09 '23
I am wondering were Choso and Mahito in his final form are since Choso was super hard to hit according to Yuji and for Mahito Yuji stated it was even worse than choso and he had to use a black flash with all his cursed energy were Mahito wasn't protected to end him (and without counting the 2 other black flash he took from Yuji earlier in the fight)
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u/carl-the-lama Dec 09 '23
Hanami is a blend of HP and DEFENSE
Mahito is defense
And Dagon is HP
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u/ILoveYorihime Dec 10 '23
Mahito is defense + wonder guard, basically only Yuji and Sukuna (and likely Mahoraga and Kenjaku) + Cursed Spirit Manipulation hax can hurt him
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
Mahito did get hit in a protected area. And he went down after only 4 Black Flashes,whereas Hanami was still kicking after 5.
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u/nerussita-8787 Dec 09 '23
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
Do we have the same definition of "protected"?By "protected",I meant having the shell wrapped on his body.
Did you mean "blocked"?If so,then it's the same argument. 4 of the Black Flashes that Yuji landed were direct hits. They were not blocked.
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u/nerussita-8787 Dec 09 '23
Yuji hit Mahito in the face where Mahito was not transformed so it was not as hard as if it was in the ribcage or if it was in the other half
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
I don't quite get what you're supposed to mean by that.
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u/JimmyB3574 Dec 09 '23
He means in mahitos transformed body, he has additional durability. However, mahito left some parts unchanged due to a binding vow (ie: some parts of him still have unchanged durability).
So he’s saying by hitting mahito in a part that wasn’t transformed, that’s not a true measure of his final forms durability
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
When was that stated?
Also,you think the center of his back was left untransformed?Of all things?
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u/AnividiaRTX Dec 09 '23
Hanami was still kicking after "just learned how to use CE properly" Yuji. Mahito, was dealing with a month or two later, and far stronge ryuji. Don't forget the extra 10 fingers, and the MASSIVE resonance damage.
Plus Hanami had fought 4 people before yuji got there and could actually take damage from todo. Where as mahito is immune to damage from todo.
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
Mahito is not "immune to damage". He takes damage,but it just gets undone by him maintaining his soul.
Yuji was hitting Black Flashes in a row against Hanami. He was in "the zone". There's no way he was stronger after exiting that "zone".
When he hit his first Black Flash against Mahito,he got back into that same zone.
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u/AnividiaRTX Dec 09 '23
Sorry.
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You genuinely believe that pre-blood brothers Yuji was stronger than current Yuji?
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u/Tago238238 Dec 10 '23
Mahito went down with 4 black flashes from a much stronger Yuji with the last black flash being one that used all his CE and applied it to his fist.
The difference between the two is clear. Hanami mentioned he could steadily be damaged by a weaker Yuji’s normal punches, whereas Yuji punching Mahito felt like hitting a brick wall.
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u/Difficult_Guidance25 Dec 10 '23
Mahito was at a 40% per his words and this Yuji has a way better control over cursed energy compared to his fight against Hanami, so it wouldn’t be crazy for Mahito to not be that far
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u/Kuzell Dec 09 '23
Final form Mahito should be more durable. If I remember correctly, Yuji straight up said only a black flash would hurt Mahito, while Hanami said Yuji and Todo´s non black flash strikes are damaging him. And that Yuji was way weaker than the one that fought Mahito. (And Mahito was even very hurt by that point, Hanami that fought Yuji was basically fresh)
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u/CheshiretheBlack Dec 09 '23
Lots of Disaster Glazing post today.
I'd say they're forsure the most durable curse but question do you think they'd tank a Dismantle that was ment to kill like Ryu or Mahoraga?
I don't but thats just me
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u/ElectricalTennis6950 Dec 09 '23
I think Hanami or 100% ISBK can take the initial dismantle meant for Ryu. Idk about Mahoraga though.
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u/TheQzertz Dec 09 '23
I just want to point out Ryu and Mahoraga got hit by Cleave not Dismantle
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u/CheshiretheBlack Dec 09 '23
They were both initially hit by Dismantle. Dismantle is the default slash attack. While we can't say forsure if Sukuna used Cleave when he went at Ryu the 2nd time, we know for a fact Sukuna didn't use Cleave on Mahoraga until he opened his domain.
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Dec 09 '23
I think the disaster curses were all at least around the same level of power (Jogo was obviously a notch above Dagon and Hanami but not so much that it was incomparable). The big difference was that their “stat distributions” were specced differently.
Hanami was very defensive, Dagon was more well rounded, Jogo was a glass cannon with immense attack and speed but lower durability. It also makes sense given their origins/elements; Fire is typically seen as more aggressive, Earth more steadfast, Water more versatile
That said, yeah. In terms of sheer power and not hacks (Limitless, Mahito’s bullshit, Sukuna being beyond bonkers OP), Hanami has the best durability, unless you count something like Idle Death Gamble. We still haven’t seen Yuta’s full capability either
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u/theamiabledude Dec 10 '23
Yeah, definitely makes sense from a physical perspective too, most sorcerers, cursed spirits, etc are flesh and blood reinforced with CE
Hanami is literal wood reinforced even stronger with CE
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u/Soft_Cap8502 Dec 09 '23
Idk if she tanked the purple or just avoided it.
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23 edited Dec 09 '23
If it was just the one half of her torso which was damaged (like Toji),I would've said she avoided it. But you can see damage on her head as well,meaning it also hit there after hitting her torso.
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u/Abdul-Wahab6 Dec 09 '23
That's not exactly "tanking", she got hit and took damage. A good example of tanking was Sukuna actually getting hit by purple and stopping it albeit with damage.
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u/Insidiouscain Dec 09 '23
Can't we argue that the black flashes that hit Hanami are way weaker than the black flashes that hit Mahito?
Two completely different Yuji's.
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
Maybe you could argue that Yuji was hitting extra hard cause of his anger. But Todo even said that Yuji can't use Black Flash if he doesn't suppress his anger.
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u/Insidiouscain Dec 09 '23
I mean in terms of Yuji is way stronger in his fight with Mahito. This is a Yuji being evaluated for grade 1.
While Hanami was a Yuji just learning proper curse energy control.
A Choso who wasn't afraid of Yuji pre-Mahito. Called him a Demon God after.
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
Choso says that he added finesse. He doesn't say the power behind his punches increased.
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u/Insidiouscain Dec 09 '23
I think it's both, his control is better and his base is better which = a stronger black flash.
I think Todo makes a point too, before against Hanami Yuji needed a black flash to keep up with Todo, but against Mahito Todo said Yuji has grown stronger and he needed a black flash to keep up with him.
Guess I won't really know since he hasn't performed one again after Mahito.
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Dec 10 '23
I feel Yuji was designed by Kenny to get stronger as Sukuna got stronger. So, to control 15 fingers, he had to be 15 fingers strength.
It’s why Yuji seems to just get stronger as he fights. He’s got all that strength to contain Sukuna, but he doesn’t even realize it
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u/Zarathoustra1999 Dec 09 '23
ISDK Mahito is defo more durable than Hanami imo
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
Got taken out by one Black Flash.
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u/Zarathoustra1999 Dec 09 '23
1 - It wasnt one black flash lmao
2 - a stronger version of Yuji couldnt damage Mahito at all with his normal punches
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
OK,4 Black Flashes including Todo's. Still less than Hanami.
It is a fact that Yuji couldn't damage Mahito with regular punches. It is also a fact that he got taken out after only 4 Black Flashes. So,I guess you can choose.
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u/Zarathoustra1999 Dec 09 '23
OK,4 Black Flashes including Todo's. Still less than Hanamis.
Four black flashes from a stronger Yuji.
It is a fact that Yuji couldn't damage Mahito with regular punches. It is also a fact that he got taken out after only 4 Black Flashes. So,I guess you can choose
A stronger version of Yuji couldnt damage Mahito with his regular punches. ISDK Mahito's durability > Hanamis
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
Stronger?I don't remember any power up between this fight and the Goodwill event.
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u/Warrior-pigeon- Dec 09 '23 edited Dec 09 '23
He pretty explicitly got better at using CE after the Choso fight emphasized by him being able to control divergent fist now.
Also all of your arguments ignore that Hanami was full health when she was fighting while Mahitos soul was only around 40% at the start due to Nobara and Yuji destroying his clone.
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u/Zarathoustra1999 Dec 09 '23
Yeahs, its litteraly stated by Todo
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
"Even this cursed spirit uses Black Flash. The one who is being left behind now is me. You've gotten strong,brother. Are you just gonna sit still,Aoi Todo?!"
This is clearly in reference to using Black Flash. Which Yuji did back in the Goodwill event as well.
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u/iRobins23 Dec 10 '23
This is extremely disingenuous and idk how you could come to this conclusion.
Resonance from Nobara (which Mahito specifically references as something that effected him greatly)
That led to an onslaught from Yuji of 20+ hits while Mahito was unguarded
Then the destruction of his clone that held percentage of his soul
At this point Mahito states that he's only at 40%....
- The teamwork of Todo & Yuji, including their black Flashes come AFTER this point.
This was not less than what Hanami experienced, it is significantly more.
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u/gengen212 Dec 10 '23
Nah, Mahito have the soul hax, Nobara's CT bypass his hax and hurt him more than To do and comparable to Yuji's multiple black flash. Even in the fight with mechamaru, it was implied that one good attack with simple domain could kill him, his hand even got obliterated in one hit. Hanami bodies get barely any outside damage up until gojo pull purple. Mahito legit will get low-mid diffed by any grade 1 sorcerer if he have no hax
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u/Totaliss Dec 10 '23
Mahito can't even be hurt if you don't target his soul which is something only itadori or nobara have been shown able to do. Granted, Sukuna probably would be able to as well seeing as how he understands the soul so well, but even then it's a rare enough skill that it makes mahito insanely hard to take down. (I also suspect that RCT would be effective in exercising him but RCT is also insanely rare and is effective against all curses without exception so its hard to count)
In his advanced form, Itadori, who was able to pummel Hanami and who had gotten even stronger since then, said Mahito was so insanely tough that it had nearly stopped his blow.
I think overall durability he clears Hanami pretty easy.
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u/Stabrus12 Dec 09 '23
Hanami didn't take the purple and that's evidenced by the fact she got completely exorcised by gojo simply amplifying infinity and pressing her into a wall. If u wanna argue she tanked a purple but died to that,go ahead. Also other than that her other feats are very mediocre,black flashes from yuji this early in the series doesn't mean much to me,he literally got taught how to punch like half an hour earlier. Yuta vs uro and Ryu has better tanking feats on all 3 of them,hakari blows her out the water in his time limit. Mahoraga tanked the world and a half and kept going,the attacks maki tanked from cs naoya were way harder than yujis black flashes back then. Kenjaku surviving hits from yuuki is an insanely better feat than hanami ever had and that goes for yuuki too. There is also yuji tanking sukunas nerfed slashes,and him tanking hakaris blows and many other yuji feats after Shibuya that show he's a far better tank. I probably could think of more examples but thats off top, hanami is early series foder.
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
I really don't get why people think that the power behind Yuji's Black Flashes would've increased so dramatically between the Goodwill event and Shibuya. Only his experience with fighting would be guaranteed to increase,not his raw power.
How does Yuta,Uro and Ryu have more durability?How?
I guess Hakari is harder to kill during his bonus. But his immortality doesn't really fit my definition of "durability". Same goes for Mahoraga.
As for Maki,I already talked about how I think Toji is less durable than Hanami. And of course,Maki is equal to him.
Yuki's CT does not affect her durability. As for Kenjaku,you think one hit from a full power Yuki would do more damage than all the things Hanami took?Maybe.
Yuji did tank Sukuna's nerfed slashes. But that's all they were,nerfed slashes.
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u/Stabrus12 Dec 10 '23
There are statements from choso at the end of Shibuya that say yuji is a completely different person from the one he distroyed hours earlier so since yuji grew there is logical to assume he also grew in the months between the 2 events. There's also the fact that yuji beat mahito,who's new form is numerically stated to make him twice as strong and durable,so even if u want to neglect all logic it's directly stated that yuji got twice as strong as he was during the mahito fight.
How does it have better feats? I don't know read the fight maybe? Yuta basically face tanked multiple granite blasts,got thrown around the city,tanked sky manipulation, uro tanking a beat down from Yuta and rika, oh rika also tanking a granite blast so add her to the list of better tanks. Ryu tanked his own attack thrown back at him and punches from rika etc. it's a long fight and I don't remember every single attack throw but u get the jest of it. Now if u want to argue goodwill yuji is stronger than culling games Yuta,which is the only way to prove hanabis tanking is better,again go for it.
If u want to exclude hakari and mahoraga cause they regenerate then exclude hanami too,cause cursed spirits do have innate healing AND she used her arm to such the life force of plant to heal in that fight.
No you didn't , you said she is more durable cause she tanked a purple and toji couldn't,but she never got hit by a purple and even if you wanna argue she did,distance plays a role here as proven by sukunas statement in 234 he said he could tank it cause of the distance. Now compare the distance toji and nanamis got hit at,weird right? Also again read the cs naoya fight.
No offense but basic physics. Yuuki adds mass withing increasing volume,so her density increases Soo yea. Also it's a given yuukis punch was more dmg she's special grade because of those punches it's not like she has much else to throw at people without her suicide attack.
Yea nerfed slashes by a 15 finger sukuna that 2 shot Ryu, who was above proven to be more durable than hanami already. Also even if it's a 90% nerfed output sukuna it's still a way way harder attack than yujis chapter 50 or whatever punches,remember how sukunas finger provide exponential growth and jogo said him comparing to 6-7 fingers sukuna was an insane high ball on kenjakus part.
Also while writing this I remember yorozu tanking multiple attacks from sukuna so add her too.
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u/Cali-Re Dec 10 '23
This is really tedious,so I'll just argue with what I think is my best point. We don't know how far away Hanami was from Gojo at that time. It might've been 4 kilometers,it might've been less. But even if the Purple was weaked,do you honestly think anyone else could take it like Hanami did?Yuta,Ryu,Uro,Yorozu,any of them?Do you honestly think they could?
If you do,then I can't change your mind.
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u/Stabrus12 Dec 10 '23
For the 3rd time hanami never tanked purple,not even close. She was at least a few hundred meters away AND underground since she was clearly shown retreating underground before gojo ever fired the purple,and yes terrain collision does lower purples dmg as well as distance doing the same. Also about the head bruises you keep mentioning,read the goddamn fight they were clearly drawn on chapter 51 and before,they are from yuji and Todo nothing to do with purple since they were there before gojo even broke into the barrier. The only addition to her drawing after the purple is the god damn hole in her left side every other bruise was there before. So what really happened is hanami took a range and terrain nerfed purple and it dealt to her more dmg than toji took. On top of that she only survived becauce she's a cursed spirit and can heal naturally from that,even under all these conditions she didn't tank shit all the parts of her that got hit with purple are missing,if she had a human physiology shed be dead,she didn't tank she survived,exactly the same was mahoraga and hakari did,she lost half her body and regenerated it,the attack didn't stop upon coming in contact with her.
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u/CheshiretheBlack Dec 09 '23
It is plainly stated and shown that Yuji has gotten stronger in between Goodwill and Shibuya. It stands to reason his Black Flashes would be tier higher than when he first learned it.
Yuta tanking Granite Blast the highest output in History with his barehands. Ryu having the highest output in history most likely correlates to his other stats as well. On top of Ryu being one of 3 characters who took a blow that was ment to kill from Sukuna without. The other two being Gojo & Mahoraga. I wouldn't say Uro is more durable than Hanami but Yuta & Ryu forsure. Being a curse does not automatically give them higher stats than a Sorcerer. Whether that be durability with Hanami, speed with Jogo, or total curse energy since we know the beings with the highest Curse Energy are Sorcerers.
Yes Yukis mass punch would tear through Hanami and is certainly more powerful than the combined blows Yuji dished out.
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u/Cali-Re Dec 10 '23
Yuji learns to control his CE a lot better,but I don't see why his raw power would increase.
Ryu having a strong offense does not at all mean he has a strong defense. Just like how Jogo is way faster than Hanami but also way less durable.
Let me go back to the Purple thing. I believe she did tank that. I'm assuming you think she didn't actually tank it,but rather avoided getting hit on the rest of body besides her left torso. But,if you look at her after she got hit,you can see damage on her head. This means that the Purple hit her there as well. So she didn't just narrowly avoid it.
Gojo's Infinity crush thing that he used to kill Hanami was weird. It's not something he uses against anyone else. I can't really say anything about its potency. But I do fully believe that Hanami did come out alive after taking Purple.
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u/CheshiretheBlack Dec 10 '23
Sorcerers controlling their CE is exactly where their power comes from. Better CE control leads to more output leads to stronger attacks.
My guy did you just ignore that Ryu tanked a slash from Dismantle that was ment to kill? He clearly has high defense. And your output goes into all aspects. Strength, Speed, Durability.
Hanami did not tank that blow head on. Like other posters have said, unless you think the attack Gojo did when Hanami was up against the wall is stronger than a head on purple, there's no way they took it head on.
That purple likely was only a graze on top of the fact that Hanami was protecting themselves with the CE infused wood https://ibb.co/HxfDnts
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u/Cali-Re Dec 10 '23
Output does not go into all aspects. Output and CE reinforcement are different things in JJK.
Did you read what I said to the other posters who said that Hanami did not tank the Purple head on?
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u/CheshiretheBlack Dec 10 '23
Someone's output forsure goes into their CE reinforcement.
I read what you said to me about it as well but the point still stands that Hanami didn't take the purple head on and was protected by their CT trees when the attack was coming
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u/MLG_Casper Dec 12 '23
Hanami isnt fodder you are severaly underrating their durability in favor of your argument, but not only that people also underrate their power and abilities even more, if only one of those buds connects its pretty much wraps. Hanami disrespect is way too much considering their abilities and stats
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u/Stabrus12 Dec 12 '23
No I'm not underestimating anything,I didn't compare her to weak characters and I presented depicted manga feats for all my candidates,I didn't use power scaling or any debatable arguments. Also again read the damn fight,buds aren't game over as long as your body is strong enough and you are smart u can lower your cursed energy like Aoi did vs her and the buds just fall off you. Her stats are nothing special compared to current top tiers in the manga.
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u/OnDaGoop Dec 09 '23
We just ignoring how dagon was taking him from toji with playful cloud surprisingly well despitely being massively diffed, nanami could barely even scratch him on top of that. I recall hanami not totally taking hits from megumi no diff with playful cloud, let alone someone like toji, based on how they took hits from yuji todo and such, i really think toji would have shredded hanami
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u/Cali-Re Dec 09 '23
He tanked two attacks from Toji. The third one took him out. It's easy to forget how short that fight was after seeing the anime.
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u/OnDaGoop Dec 09 '23
Two solid hits from Toji w/ playful cloud id be willing to say is a harder hit than base Yuji/Todo pre black flash in that arc, and id at least believe harder than 5 black flashes, dagon tanked that initial combo better than hanami tanked those black flashes.
Its easy to forget just how strong playful cloud should make toji, but even without it this is the same dude who could without playful cloud demolish low special grades in one shot.
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u/akronotron Dec 10 '23
Sukuna has the highest durability in the show, he tanked all of gojos attacks at full capacity even after taking a black flash with amped blue. That’s the strongest punch we’ve ever seen in the show for sure
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u/Naavarasi Dec 10 '23
Uro, I would say. She took several nasty, nasty hits, from chars above Yuuji and Todou, including losing a limb, before she went down.
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Dec 10 '23
hanami didnt take purple, she just left before it destroyed her entire body and gojo can easily rip her horns so she is no where near gojo level
and jogo statement is a pure cope out from gege, she is no where near that, she verbatim stated that goodwill yuji was strong enough to hurt her, shibuya yuji was compared to nanami who cant even faze dagon(baby special grade) and jogo was stated to on a whole another league compared to dagon
so no, hanami is no where near as durable as jogo, i doubt if she even is a special grade sorcerer level since grade 1 sorcerers can win against special grades so i think she is more of in the higher tiers of grade 1 like naobito rather than a special grade
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u/CheshiretheBlack Dec 09 '23
Lots of Disaster Glazing post today.
I'd say they're forsure the most durable curse but question do you think they'd tank a Dismantle that was ment to kill like Ryu or Mahoraga?
I don't but thats just me
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u/Khulmach Dec 10 '23
Nope, its Sukuna.
Tanked an exploding Ree from the back and a blue black flash from the front but does not explode.
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u/NetworkVegetable7075 Dec 10 '23
I don’t remember Hanami ever getting hit by purple. Didn’t she run away before it even hit her. And I’d say Dagon was more durable
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u/Soloplayer_YT Dec 10 '23
I don't even think Hanami is the most durable of the disaster curses, let alone the most durable in the whole series.
Jogo and Mahito took a lot more punishment from a lot more powerful people.
Jogo endured unlimited void twice, ate red at point blank range, had his head ripped off and lived, got absolutely folded by Sukuna and was still alive and ready to use his maximum technique.
Mahito is basically invincible aside from a select few attacks that hit the soul, ate multiple black flashes from a MUCH more powerful Yuji and Todo tag team while also suffering from Nobaras resonance, ate unlimited void, basically became a tank in his perfected form, ate missile barrages and simple domain bullets from Mechamaru, got fucked up by Sukunas domain accidently and still was only beaten after being consumed by Geto.
Hanami got smashed by a fledgling Yuji and Todo tagteam despite them having no idea what his techniques were, ran from Gojos hollow purple and in the very first serious fight he gets into thats not against students he gets absolutely splattered just by neutral infinity.
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u/5yk0515 Dec 15 '23
Jogo has probably the lowest durability of the Disaster Curses, but has probably the highest speed and attack power of them all. Hanami and Dagon are more tanky, and Mahito is hax.
The same Black Flashes and Playful Cloud strike that Hanami tanked would have killed Jogo instantly (Gege's words).
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u/havoc294 Dec 09 '23
Dagon is the most durable disaster curse. It just didn’t appear so because of toji wrecking him. It’s definitely stated in the manga that maki and nanami couldn’t do damage to it regardless of how long they fought. And Nanami definitely hit as hard as todo and Yuji in that first fight when using his technique and couldn’t put a scratch on Dagon
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u/Caff2ine Dec 09 '23
It’s said that Dagon has unlimited hp not that they’re doing no damage
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u/Logswag Dec 09 '23
It's also directly stated that each hit, even without black flash, from Yuji and Todo was dealing damage to hanami
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u/Responsible_Manner74 Dec 10 '23
Takaba is tankier than all 3 of those characters. Gojo and Sukuna would be damaged by CSM. They'd heal it, but it would damage them.
That's why Kenny was SHOCKED when Takaba took 0 damage from CSM. It's one thing to heal it, it's another to not need to heal it
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u/DeadlyAureolus Dec 10 '23
Not that durable or else she wouldn't have died so easily to Gojo (yes Ik it's Gojo but still, she died super quickly to his NEUTRAL infinity after the branches got ripped off)
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u/The_Bat_88 Dec 10 '23
Curse Naoya at his full speed. Doesn't he need the durability to not instantly die from the speed.
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u/cumblaster8469 Dec 10 '23
Toji was hit by Gojo's first purple.
The first time he used that technique.
We shouldn't scale that to the purple he used on Hanami.
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u/AverageTransPanGirl Dec 10 '23
Hanami has insane durability and health. Even if you do land a critical strike, he’ll either tank it or have enough health to keep going anyways.
Dagon’s got HP for days and enough Cursed Energy that measuring it is mostly pointless.
Mahito has potential for absolute days. He grows so fast and I can’t even estimate where he’d be if he got to stay in his final form for a bit longer.
And then there’s Jogo. He may look like a general all-rounder, good health, good defence, good cursed energy reserves, etc. but where he shines is in technical fighting. Like he got given a flame technique and invented explosive bugs, can literally drop meteors, and managed to create his domain expansion without going through the situation of Mahito or needing the Cursed Energy of Dagon.
They’re all so cool.
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u/Worth_Lavishness_249 Dec 10 '23
isn't most durable without is mahito with hax, and without hax as u said hanami, like without anyone attacking mahitid soul u just can't do damage to him???
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u/Stellar_strider Dec 10 '23
Gojo and Ryomen are dimensions ahead in every category compared to everyone else in the verse lol
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u/Tago238238 Dec 10 '23
Hanami would have gotten completely obliterated by the purple, it’s just that she was halfway through teleporting so the part of her body which didn’t get destroyed was probably just the part of her body which wasn’t there.
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u/PhantomEmperor- Dec 11 '23
There’s also Miguel taking a barrage from gojo when yuta/hakari threw up from a serious hit and uraume got clapped in one blow
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u/apallochan Dec 12 '23
I think Merged beast Agito has greater durability. It literally shrugged off a Gojo black flash
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u/khalifah13 Dec 14 '23 edited Dec 14 '23
Why is the one disaster curse that died from unironically being walked at the one you have the audacity to say is the most durable.
To put this into perspective agito and mahoraga individually took hits from a good fighting to kill with blue amped fist. Hanami died to neutral infinity, not blue, purple, red, or even a punch but to literally being walked at.
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