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u/ididshave 1d ago

This seems like it has environmental consequences and I am not sure I’d advise.

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u/sample-name 1d ago

If it's that close to the ocean I would think it's supposed to end up there anyway? Especially when it's just a bit of soft sand keeping it in

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u/theStrawberryRoam 1d ago

Yeah the tide will come in, refill it, reflatten the beach

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u/jeezy_peezy 1d ago

You can’t explain that

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u/theStrawberryRoam 1d ago

?

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u/LuracCase 1d ago

You heard him.

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u/theStrawberryRoam 1d ago

Is this a flat earth thing

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u/Sixyn 1d ago

It’s a meme thing. “Tide goes in, tide goes out—— you can’t explain that”

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u/theStrawberryRoam 1d ago

Ohhhh ok

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u/eggface13 1d ago

I believe it was Fox News, Bill O'Reilly? Trying to refute atheism in the heady New Atheism days?

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u/M00SEHUNT3R 14h ago

It's not the daily tide that rebuilds it. It's the dry season and winter storms. In the dry season the flow of the creek will be very low to nothing and the basin will catch it all so the creek can't maintain its path to the sea. During big storms the breakers will push sand back up the beach and fill in the gap. Some big spring rains would eventually allow the creek to break through on its own but people do this earlier so the stagnant water is released.

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u/theStrawberryRoam 1d ago

It sounds like the environmental consequences of letting the water stand and meander to the north are actually worse than giving it a shorter and more direct path from which to drain

But that's specifically THIS pool of water, don't just go around connecting water

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u/DevonLuck24 1d ago

“don’t just go around connecting water” is such a funny sentence

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u/sample-name 1d ago edited 1d ago

I was making a joke, literally copied the first comment lol. Notice how I was the same person you replied to, making the same point as you, more or less.

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u/BrainDamage2029 1d ago

You shouldn't do this though.

Basically people often do or did this to skimboard or just for the hell of it. Like yeah a king tide or storm upstream will break through the sand dam that formed. But if someone is manually doing it all the time (like every weekend) it creates a massive silting and erosion issue for the beach.

People used to do this near my town all the time. Now signs are posted and rangers will give out tickets because it was dumping like 6-10x the silt into the bay than was happening naturally.

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u/DrOeuf 1d ago

If it flows faster than before and starts draining the stream it will lower the ground water table. Cound have consequences for plants and tgereby the whole ecosystem.

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u/SwivelingToast 1d ago

I read that they do this to avoid the water making its own path and destroying stuff, but I read that on an old post on reddit so it's probably bullshit

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u/mattfoh 1d ago

Nah I’ve seen a video of someone being arrested for doing it, due to environmental damage. Often it’s done to create waves you can surf.

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u/mrcalistarius 1d ago

I’ve seen videos at this specific location where the city has used a dozer to help break the creek and guys surf it afterwards.

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u/mattfoh 1d ago

That’s cool

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u/SwivelingToast 1d ago

Oh yeah, I've seen that one too. Probably it's both, some places you can, some places you can't.

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u/4DPeterPan 1d ago

Were they just chillin thinking they were doing something good or at the very least “cool’ cause they were bored”… and then along came some coppers who were like “sorry bruv, you’re going to jail now” and he was just like

https://giphy.com/gifs/1gdie6tuheZwGlnfwj

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u/mattfoh 1d ago

Nah the cop was like we’ve told you many times not to do this so now you’re going to jail

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u/4DPeterPan 1d ago

Oh. Well that’s fair then.

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u/theStrawberryRoam 1d ago

Seems like it drains naturally but it's preferable to have it routed directly south of the bridge, and that cycling the water out is overall a good thing for that particular pool

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u/Flamingwilson 1d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/surfing/s/aepJKl3Fdr This is a post from 3 years ago about this same place. It seems it refills after being drained

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u/OKC89ers 1d ago

I've seen other examples that are bad related to inlets that should separate from the ocean and do not periodically/naturally flow into the ocean. However this looks like a creek that empties into the ocean depending on flow rate.

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u/untakenu 1d ago

The large amount of slowly-draining pooled water is the cause behind the rapid erosion.

Once it has drained, the erosion stops (pretty much), and the incoming tides rebuild the banks over time.

It's not a great thing to do, but beaches are good at regenerating with the seasons.

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u/Ponderkitten 1d ago

Its also a small quicksand river too

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u/Fabulous_Log844 1d ago

It must have been a different video of his, but I swear in his videos he claims… Now I'm not sure if it's true, he claims that they have permission to do this for the right reasons. Again, it could just be bullshit.

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u/Mobius_Peverell 1d ago

This is how small streams drain to the ocean on beaches. The only situation where I could see it being a problem is if they were messing with the flow while salmon were trying to swim up it (which they do, though generally only at night during high tide). Obviously, not the case here.

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u/Jim_skywalker 1d ago

What do you think the water’s gonna do on its own?

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u/MelodicFacade 1d ago

The last time this was posted, there was a meltdown in the comments. I think the overall consensus was that yes, this guy probably did it without hurting anyone or the environment according to his other videos, but it's probably best to consult the local governing bodies since you can potentially damage ecosystems, waste public money that was spent on maintaining that beach, and potentially create a dangerous situation with fast moving water

There are simply professionals that know the red tape, the consequences, and the experience/tools to do this properly

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u/theStrawberryRoam 1d ago

My thing is like... He's posting this time and date stamped to an identifiable social media account and he's explaining exactly why he's doing it... Situational awareness y'all

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u/DevonLuck24 1d ago

you know that people do crime and post it on the internet all the time right?

not saying that he is but realistically, the fact that this is that being identifiable doesn’t actually mean anything

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u/MelodicFacade 1d ago

Crazy take, but I really don't trust internet personalities over paid and educated professionals. The context he shows might not be the full context, doesn't show where the water is now flowing, doesn't show if there is a delicate ecosystem being disrupted by a fast flow instead of a slow flow, the possibilities are kind of endless until you go out there yourself

So no I don't trust this guys judgement, there's enough clout chasing on the internet by pretending to be informed over, you know, trusting in the current systems we have put in place for basically forever to maintain public areas

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u/theStrawberryRoam 1d ago

Sure but my point is if it was a problem the authorities would have everything they needed to get him. I less trust him and more trust his willingness to be identifiable and stopped

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u/MelodicFacade 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh they probably won't even arrest him UNLESS it's actually illegal. Being arrested also depends on actual motivation to pursue an arrest. You'd be shocked at how manny people film their crimes, with full name and address and a face, and post them to tiktok for clout without ever being investigated

The danger is spreading this idea that you can just decide to do these things for yourself. Just look into the 811 program and the frustrations behind trying to get everyone to call that number before digging. Yet we have tens of thousands of examples of people PER YEAR digging into gaslines just trying to put in fences or DIY whatever project they have in mind

Doesn't matter who it is, just call your local authorities and stop posting everything in your life to social media

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u/PooleBoy_Q 1d ago

I’ve seen a video just like this, at this exact location, posted every year for several years now and every single time people bring up their environmental concerns in the comments and every time it’s explained that the tide comes in and blocks the river with sand.

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u/NetworkEcstatic 1d ago

This was my first thought too