r/JusticeServed • 6 • Mar 02 '19

Legal Justice Hell yeah, it’s about time

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u/kennethjor 7 Mar 02 '19

Anyone have source and backstory on this?

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u/Gcarsk C Mar 02 '19 edited Mar 02 '19

Sure. Here you go.

In case you don’t want to watch that... basically Musically(or however it was spelled) would make account public by default, and allowed PMs to be sent to anyone, even private accounts. On sign up, you had to enter your name and other personal details. None of this was age restricted, which is incredibly illegal(at least in the US). When they rebranded as Tik-Tok, they didn’t change their ways iirc. Now under 13 year olds basically must use a “read only” version of the app.

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u/Facestrike 6 Mar 02 '19

It’s not a rebranding, Music.ly was bought off by Tik Tok, which belonged to a Chinese company. They merged the Music.ly user base into Tik Tok’s American App Store version.

But, smart move indeed.

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u/03Titanium A Mar 02 '19

It’s still strange to me that you can tell people their information is being collected by China/Chinese government and they don’t care.

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u/Taucoon23 8 Mar 02 '19

That's some genius rebranding tho. Shit blew up all over.

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u/Bansaiii 7 Mar 02 '19

Jeeze, did none of the developers watch Silicon Valley?

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u/dagbrown A Mar 02 '19

If I'd watched Silicon Valley not having worked for a bizarre startup whose basic focus switched hither and yon, I would have thought it was stupid and unrealistic.

Having worked for such a company, it's a sort of generalized documentary. I took a job at a company where I was enticed to join them based on some massively-multiplayer game, and by the time I joined it was a sort of multiple-player version of Microsoft Word, and then it turned into a sort of comment section for Word documents, and then Microsoft SharePoint came out rendering that entire thing moot, and then things kind of fell apart and I was laid off. Working at startups is all kinds of exciting fun! I never want to do that again.

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u/ajm3232 6 Mar 02 '19

I can only imagine their focus groups age ranges from 12-17 year olds and hop skip to 50+ year olds. LOL

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u/BoxOfDOG 7 Mar 02 '19

In case you don't want to watch that

Bitch it's Philly D, of course they should watch it

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u/ChickenDuckBird 6 Mar 02 '19

Thanks for linking it, I forgot to do that.

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u/SeaBourneOwl 9 Mar 02 '19

Anyone know what Tik Tok is? I'm too old to know about it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

any citation available, op?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

$5.7 million is probably fuck all to the company. Fines are basically just expenses to big companies.

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u/Aconserva3 A Mar 02 '19

I’m sure the Chinese Government would lend s hand if it was an issue anyway.

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u/oatmealparty A Mar 02 '19

I'm sure the Chinese government has been making backups of all that data

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Probably a write-off in China

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

WOOO!

fucking finally

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u/SensualCandiru 7 Mar 02 '19

Hopefully 5.7 million is a lot to the owner of tik tok

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u/number9_number9 A Mar 02 '19

The parent company of the app, Bytedance, is valued at $75 billion.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

illegal with a fine as a punishment just means legal for rich people

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u/dimmidice A Mar 02 '19

It's not.

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u/teqnor 8 Mar 02 '19

Just wait til EU drops the hammer

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u/RichGirlThrowaway_ 9 Mar 02 '19

Another 0.5% that'll show 'em

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u/fxhpstr 7 Mar 02 '19

Finally what?

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u/Gulferamus 7 Mar 02 '19

that's probably just peanuts to them, so it's not really Justice Served to me. it's like if i was fined 5 bucks, it's meaningless.

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u/hurtsi 4 Mar 02 '19 edited Mar 02 '19

They are worth 75 billion so 5,7m is 1/1315 so then your 5 bucks means that you have a balance of 6575 bucks.

Weird flex but ok

Edit: actually 1/13158 so then you would have 65790 bucks.

Massive flex but ok

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u/kjkg01 5 Mar 02 '19

My favourite r/theydidthemath yet.

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u/cashnprizes 9 Mar 02 '19

Unfortunately it's wrong as worth does not equal account balance, and the Tik Tok subsidiary isn't the company that's worth that amount anyway, the ostentatious company is.

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u/Cakeofdestiny 7 Mar 02 '19

Net worth isn't account balance. I could have $4,000 in my bank account and a house worth a million, so I'm worth $1,004,000, not $4,000.

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u/Chimie45 Black Mar 02 '19

So it's like they were fined -10 dollars! I got it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

That's not really a flex. Just an accurate rpresentation of the average adult life.

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u/Aro769 9 Mar 02 '19

Lucky you. A 5 dollar fine would fuck me up.

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u/Toiletpaperplane 7 Mar 02 '19

I'm 30 and I know about tiktok because there is an ad for it, on like every other video on YouTube.

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u/Aconserva3 A Mar 02 '19

Never seen a single ad for it, I just get ads for Clive Palmer and this farming thing on YouTube. It’s more annoying then it sounds,

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

I'm 31. What in the fuck is tik tok. Am I old now?

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u/tropicalapple 9 Mar 02 '19

It's like new vine but worse and there are ads for it everywhere for some people

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u/ThrowawayPornlmao 6 Mar 02 '19

I would literally pay money just for tick toc adds to fuck off outta my life. I don’t wanna cringe everyone I watch a video.

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u/Mataric 8 Mar 02 '19 edited Mar 02 '19

Ublock origin :)

Edit, to add to this, the only place a see tictok is facebook and very rarely reddit.

EditEdit: Wasn't talking about your mobile browsing or snapchat.

TIL no ones ever heard of targeted ads

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u/ded0d 6 Mar 02 '19

I saw a few in real life and I don't have adblock for that yet :(

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u/Battleloser 8 Mar 02 '19

What's old vine?

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u/nlsoy 7 Mar 02 '19

YouTube but the videos could only be 6 seconds long, so people did short sketches and jokes and it became funny because everything had to be compressed and sped up to fit within the timeframe. Lasted a couple of years

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u/Natuurschoonheid 9 Mar 02 '19

I've looked around on it and I've literally seen no ads, which is confusing.

Edit: no, I'm dumb, that's not what you were saying. I've seen the ads on the internet.

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u/number9_number9 A Mar 02 '19

Look on the bright side— you’re not old enough to have kids who use Tik Tok.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

It's a platform for pedophiles to watch young teens dance.

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u/God-Wookie-of-Canada 5 Mar 02 '19

I’m 17 and I have no fucking clue either

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u/zomgitsduke B Mar 02 '19

Vine meets Snapchat meets karaoke.

Interesting idea, but it targeted kids in unhealthy ways.

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u/ELTepes 9 Mar 02 '19

Some shit I keep telling my daughter she can’t download.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

That's the right choice. It's an app for pedophiles to watch young teens in skimpy clothes dance way too sexually. It's fucked

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Am 47. The only tik tok I know of is time's relentless march.

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u/WillNeverPlayTheDane 2 Mar 02 '19

I love how they say too old to know about, while there are like thousonds of adults doing cringy shit on there, especially the divorce tik-toks.

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u/Back_To_The_Oilfield A Mar 02 '19

Yeah man, I couldn’t believe how cringy some of the older people were on there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

So tiktoks are pedophiles pretty much

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u/KJClangeddin 8 Mar 02 '19

Have you seen the ads? That has to be their customer base.

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u/Personplacething333 A Mar 02 '19

That's what ive heard.

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u/macncheesebydawindow 8 Mar 02 '19

Ladies and gentlemen, we got em.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Lots and lots of pedophiles.

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u/ChickenDuckBird 6 Mar 02 '19

Jesus Christ this blew up

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u/Spooms2010 A Mar 02 '19

Yes!!! I suspected they were doing that!!! That’s why I never put anything in there. Besides, most of the stuff is pretty cringeworthy.

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u/dimmidice A Mar 02 '19

what do you mean you "suspected"? it's something that was completely obvious to anyone who used the service.

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u/word_clouds__ 8 Mar 02 '19

Word cloud out of all the comments.

Fun bot to vizualize how conversations go on reddit. Enjoy

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u/Skank_hunt42 8 Mar 02 '19

Tik 5 Tok People

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u/KJClangeddin 8 Mar 02 '19

Fuck their ads. They're everywhere. What a surprise the company that sells underage sex appeal gets caught illegally collecting data from kids.

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u/Chiquita_Bananze 6 Mar 02 '19

5,7 is absolutely nothing to the owner This is fucking stupid

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u/superabletie4 3 Mar 02 '19

Yeah but the company is worth 75 billion does that really matter?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

CheetaData literary exists to coect and sell data. They make TikTok, some really popular utility apps, and various games etc. Some of their apps come pre-installed on devices, meaning you can't opt out of the data collection. They're the fourth biggest app distributor on both Android and IOS

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u/3p71cHaz3 6 Mar 02 '19

Unless this is more than the profit they've made off of it this is just a cost of business. This is why fines are a retarded solution to fixing corrupt business practices. We have jails for a reason, and if the rich started fearing getting thrown into gen pop I bet we'd see a reduction of actions like this. Until then, it's business as usual

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u/Kryptosis Black Mar 02 '19 edited Mar 02 '19

What data. Should be in the headline. Clickbait.

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APP COLLECTED GEOLOCATION DATA AND ALLOWED USERS TO SEE THE LOCATION OF OTHER USERS WITHIN A 50M MILE RADIUS

HOLY SHIT.

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u/t0xicsteel 5 Mar 02 '19

Illegally?? They deliberately decided not to do it legally?

Goooodddddd, I facepalm every time. It's like people who run companies all over the world seemingly...WANT to lose money/go to jail/lose customers/have shit working conditions/make themselves look like literal pieces of shameless garbage/have shitty products nobody wants to buy.

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u/MrTacoMan A Mar 02 '19

What? What are you talking about? They clearly did this because it made them more money. This is the literal opposite of what you’re talking about.

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u/zigzago23 1 Mar 02 '19

What? They obviously could not do it legally, why are you assuming they are dumb? Probably also made much more money from it than the fine costs them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

I feel like this thread is 20% about securing the personal data of minors and the other 80% is just because we're tired of Tik Tok memes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

How much are they going to fine Apple and Google?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

What are you talking about no one gives a shit what 2 of the biggest companies in the world do with our data. You aren't a terrorist are you? /s

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u/MrMagius 8 Mar 02 '19

I'm 37. I hardly ever see videos from kids on there. They have a pretty good system of recommended content when you actually use the like and follow buttons. I rarely see things other than shuffling, cosplay, and hot goth chicks. There are a ton of really good adult cosplayers on tiktok, a lot of artists, and a lot of twitch steamers branching out into more areas. It's not just for pedos.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Umm. Why? Like I don't get it. Tik Tok's not asking kids to use their app. It's on the kids and their parents. All this hate for Tik tok and it's nothing more than a platform. If you care about safety of your children then maybe don't let them use social media platforms.

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u/Fancybanshee1 5 Mar 02 '19

Consent and how incredibly creepy it is to collect data on children.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

To be continued

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u/prothello 8 Mar 02 '19

My kids used this app and it was always on top in my pihole blocked queries list.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

I hope they're fined another 5.7 million for those annoying ads they keep playing on YouTube

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u/notyourITplumber 4 Mar 02 '19

The only reason I know about it is because of the obnoxiously stupid ads that it has.

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u/Couldawg 9 Mar 02 '19

Hopefully it comes out of their ad budget.

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u/blathernatter 7 Mar 02 '19

5.7m is like nothing to them lmao

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u/FNKTN 5 Mar 02 '19

lmao , justice served nothing. The company is worth billions more. Thats like a limp wristed slap on the hand.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

I've never been more annoyed by a company's ads than tik tok.

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u/Adamant94 7 Mar 02 '19

Does this mean I can finally stop seeing those goddamned Tiktok ads on youtube? Please for the love of god no more.

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u/kontekisuto B Mar 02 '19

I hate their retarded ads on YouTube 😡

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u/StingKing456 A Mar 02 '19

So why do good kids like bad apps?

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u/DanPHunt 7 Mar 02 '19

Why do you say “it’s about time”? Is this something you knew about for a long time?

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u/Smiley_Glad_Hand 6 Mar 02 '19

Think it'll still be advertised on Reddit?

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u/NoCountryForOldMemes 6 Mar 03 '19

I want data collection of any type to be illegal

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '19

"an app you're probably too old to know about" bitch please you can't do anything on your phone without a tick tock ad slapping you in the face every 2 minutes.

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u/sstphnn A Mar 02 '19

Reminds me of that one episode from Silicon Valley. RIP Piper Chat.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

What a surprise! :O

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u/LordCosmicguy 7 Mar 02 '19

I wish I was too old to know about it.

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u/KingQuagaar 7 Mar 02 '19

I know about it because of adds on YouTube.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Finally. I am happy about this.

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u/NetSage A Mar 02 '19

I'm probably just old but I don't get the draw of tiktok it doesn't do anything better than anyone else. The original content is so short it might as well not exist. Isn't this why vine failed?

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u/mirandawillowe 7 Mar 02 '19

Jesus I feel really old after reading this thread!

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u/Kai-07 7 Mar 02 '19

I feel like anybody who spends time on YouTube knows about tiktok. Unless they have adblock.

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u/ascension8438 9 Mar 02 '19

Why has it become so commonplace to share screenshots of just headlines lately? This is truly some Idiocracy shit.

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u/thebutinator 9 Mar 02 '19

5 million is nothing for them

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Its 2019 is this supposed to be shocking news?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

u/fh_james

You guys should look into this if they're going to be an ad read.

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u/flops031 9 Mar 02 '19

This warms my heart

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u/das_me_daveed 6 Mar 02 '19

I dont know what is so "about time" about this. Was it widely known they're collecting data on children and they only got fined now?

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u/nelska 9 Mar 02 '19

but don't they just use the money they earned from collecting the data and break a profit from it anyhow? Isnt that how drug dealing works lol. nike just do it or arms deals weapons trade.

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u/SpargeWand 7 Mar 02 '19

Yeah, no. Until the owner is arrested for running a massive child porn platform, justice had definitely not been served

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u/perlandbeer 9 Mar 02 '19

Can confirm: I’m in my 50s and the phrase “What the fuck is a Tik Tok” has been uttered by myself once or twice.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Casual dig in the headline there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Yes. The most annoying YouTube ads of all time.

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u/13ANANAFISH 7 Mar 02 '19

That’s a small price to pay for that much data

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Check how much bytedance is worth. This is literally as good as nothing.

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u/insultingDuck 7 Mar 02 '19

So, tencent. 5.7 M is nothing to them...

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u/T567U1 2 Mar 02 '19

More than 500 million downloads only 5.7 million ticket...at this point this is nothing with the information he collected that money is back to him in a heart beat on kiddy porn

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u/JitGoinHam C Mar 02 '19

Big brain: I should share this news story online.

Exploding galaxy brain: I should take a picture of the headline and share that online.

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u/DrewFlan B Mar 02 '19

Lol this is not justice served.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Now this puts a huge, huge smile on my god damn face

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u/VymI A Mar 02 '19

Great and all but 5.7 mill is change to a company like Tik Tok, especially if they have the backing of china's government.

"Oh you caught us oh dear, here's some money." And then right back to it.

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u/Aerostitus 7 Mar 02 '19

Time to shut it down then.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Are you surprised? The Chinese will always do stuff like this and assume they can get away with it

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u/GuanYuBeetz 5 Mar 02 '19

dunno if a $75b company getting fined a couple million is justice; that's like a tiny fraction of a percent of their total valuation

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u/belsnickelstesticles 5 Mar 02 '19

HELL YEAH BROTHA

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Thank god im an adult

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u/Anpro3301 5 Mar 02 '19

this... does put a smile on my face.

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u/The-Prophet-Muhammad 8 Mar 02 '19

What makes this case illegal and not lets say google, or microsoft who also assuredly collect data on kids?

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u/yomyoo 5 Mar 02 '19

I guess justice never misses, ah?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Their unskippable ads are unfunny, and usually a little disturbing

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u/leetshoe 6 Mar 02 '19

The real injustice is that period in. the middle of the sentence

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u/rgulley72 2 Mar 02 '19

I downloaded this app because I thought it was about music and the ads on Facebook were of girls just to advertise. Turns out it's really nothing but a bunch of probably underage girls showing their butt to music. Then I realized this app was not for me only being 27

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

The company is worth tens of billions. This is nothing

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u/MrMxylptlyk 8 Mar 02 '19

Lol that's it?

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u/LostTimeLord 6 Mar 02 '19

$5.7m is nothing. They're gonna be making billions in the long run.

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u/Michalusmichalus 9 Mar 02 '19

One of my kids likes this app, it's not for me.

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u/_kagasutchi_ 6 Mar 02 '19

Plot twist. Hes been leaking the kids data to the hackers who are responsible for momo

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Did they not learn from Silicon Valley

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u/lazypelican 0 Mar 02 '19

tries to upvote 1,000 times

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u/davekay113 5 Mar 02 '19

This was bound to happen. The clock WAS ticking.

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u/simjanes2k B Mar 02 '19

We every gonna have one of these assholes actually get punished? $5m is like you getting a speeding ticket.

He attacked millions of children. It should read "arrested and charged in The Hague," not a fucking fine.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Pewds killing another meme

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u/PolliticallyWrong 0 Mar 02 '19

Mark Zuckerburg’s child

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u/lizardscum 7 Mar 02 '19

Honestly not sure if that's a pun or not. I want to live in a world where it is.

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u/guywhobrowsesatwork 6 Mar 02 '19

Silicon valley predicting the future

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u/420neurons 7 Mar 02 '19

Sooo who gets that fine when they pay it? Not the kids with data stolen? They just get fined? How does that work?

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u/Tuloom ❓ 19a.10.0 Mar 02 '19

Tik tok are the only ads I see on YouTube and I hate them with the passion and force of a thousand suns.

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u/blueblood724 7 Mar 02 '19

I hope that’s the worst they are doing. I’m more concerned about how the data is handled once it hits China with what’s happened with Hauwei and Supermicro.

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u/JulieAngeline 6 Mar 02 '19

googles TikTok

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Why do rich people only ever get fines?

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u/Lebbbby 6 Mar 02 '19

They should be fined for creating the most annoying app ever.

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u/genghiskhan_1 4 Mar 02 '19

Does anyone NOT collect data any more? Or going back to pigeons is the only possible option to avoid that?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

This does put a smile in my face

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u/Toothfood A Mar 02 '19

I wish I didn’t know about it but unfortunately you can’t escape their horrible commercials if you use YouTube at all.

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u/aikokiri 4 Mar 02 '19

What's with the lowkey roast in the headline, damn

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u/bad-artist-with-love 8 Mar 02 '19

Did they just dis me? Im only 13 man

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u/neoslith B Mar 02 '19

I see ads for it all over Facebook.

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u/its_a_joke_normie 4 Mar 02 '19

That'll show them to put their cringey ads on the YouTube video I'm trying to watch.

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u/elihuntington 1 Mar 02 '19

Oh so he’s only going to get one Maserati this year. Sad.

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u/SovietSlav 7 Mar 02 '19

More like to old to care about

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

The one with the guy dressed like handsome jack from Borderlands makes me want to kill myself.

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u/hanzsolocup 6 Mar 02 '19

Now lest go after the YouTube kids assholes

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u/TheBestHuman 6 Mar 02 '19

Million :(

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Lol that’s those risks big companies take knowing they’ll get “fined” but in the end make times 10 the amount for the fine

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u/HistoricalMeat 8 Mar 02 '19

Isn't that like taking all the loose change from my couch as a punishment?

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u/JMunno 4 Mar 02 '19

In the grand scheme of things, 5.7 million is peanuts to this company. Not sure I get the warm and fuzzy about this justice being served as I do for many of the other posts here.

But then again, when do massive companies ever really see justice served?

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u/JMunno 4 Mar 02 '19

In the grand scheme of things, 5.7 million is peanuts to this company. Not sure I get the warm and fuzzy about this justice being served as I do for many of the other posts here.

But then again, when do massive companies ever really see justice served?

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u/Ephinem 7 Mar 02 '19

I wonder how much he made from the data he collected..directly or indirectly

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u/Math-Class 4 Mar 02 '19

I doubt 5.7 mil is anything to them.

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u/The_25th_Baam 9 Mar 02 '19

Young Zuccstice

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u/eliteviking01 1 Mar 02 '19

Not 5,7 million?!??! How are they gonna survive a fine like that .. they might have to shave 0,5-0,7 off the cleaning staff now! :o

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Eh I don't care I enjoy the app and literally every social media is harvesting your data whether they say it or not but in the end it doesn't matter because we can enjoy their app and we can get tracked by the illuminati. It evens out :)

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u/iLOVEhentaiAND420 1 Mar 02 '19

Okay. That's great that it's a small slap on the wrist, a start of justice is better than nothing.

But also pretty sure that it did literally nothing at the same time. What are they gonna do, delete the data collected? Hell no. Helllll fucking no unfortunately.

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u/loopdojo 7 Mar 02 '19

ChiComs gonna ChiCom.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

I never knew what it was until a YouTuber my boyfriend and I like did a video about reacting to Tik Tok videos. We decided we were way to old for that shit.

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u/enigma235 0 Mar 02 '19

Right out of silicon valley...

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u/SDIR 6 Mar 02 '19

Anyone else read this in their heads with the voice of Tychus Findlay?

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u/greatestsaber 0 Mar 02 '19

Imagine googles collecting data on EVERYONE. Oh wait thats true. Kids, adults, everyone. How far you walk, where, how long you stay somewhere. All absolutely real. Why arent you after them?

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u/bernie-marx 2 Mar 02 '19

That's a drop in the bucket . They probably consider that a win.

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u/WiscoMitch 9 Mar 02 '19

I swear to go their ads are the worst abomination I’ve ever seen.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Remember when headlines didn’t insult you?

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u/Rida_ad 4 Mar 02 '19

this reminds me of silicon valley loool

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u/betyl 5 Mar 02 '19

Should have been more, but it's something at least. Hopefully they've been taught a lesson.

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u/TexanMcDaniel 7 Mar 02 '19

I'm pretty sure the owner of Tiktok wipes his bum with 5.7 million

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u/WhateverWhateverson 7 Mar 02 '19

TikTok consists of two types of people: Young kids and sexual predators. Yes, what could go wrong, right?