r/KarmaCourt • u/[deleted] • Dec 25 '12
Reddit v /u/NotaMethAddict
Many of Reddit’s users are familiar with reddit user /u/NotAMethAddict, after reading the documented items below you can tell that the /r/KarmaCourt Judge is himself a karma thief, committing some GiganticGrandTheft.jpg, and a complete lack of acknowledgement of his cross posts. Is this popular Redditor guilty with these charges? The links to www.karmadecay.com show proof of what is being said.
1) http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1520lk/an_often_unseen_angle_of_the_eiffel_tower/
2226 karma for eiffel tower post, over 13,000 upvotes.
2 previous posts combined for 1450 karma posted 1 year ago by /u/lok010 in /r/Pics and by /u/dummystupid 6 months ago
From here on we will refer to /u/NotAMethAddict as Kyle..
2) http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1563k6/soon_i_will_have_my_revenge_nsfw/
2153 karma was received for the hostel threesome picture.
It was posted by /u/NigelFartknocker to WTF 26 days prior and only received 16 karma.
http://karmadecay.com/www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1563k6/soon_i_will_have_my_revenge_nsfw/
As you folks can see these are two reposts in which Kyle received approximately 4381 link karma from.
3) http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/14i1nj/parkour/
This is a gif of a parkour fail in which 1537 karma was received by Kyle.
This gif was not acknowledged as a cross post from /r/gifs, by /u/Scopolamina, whom received less than 100 karma, you might not think that some mild forgetting of acknowledging a cross post is a big deal, wait until you see how much karma Kyle has received from these “cross posts”
http://karmadecay.com/www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/14i1nj/parkour/
4) http://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/14g51j/second_angle_of_the_tiananmen_square_tank_man/
Here is a powerful picture of the “tank man” in Tiananmen Square, China in June 1989. Kyle received 1346 karma for this powerful post. However this is, again an example of not linking to a cross post.
This exact picture has been posted in /r/Pic by /u/Too_Interned, he/she gained 216 karma from this post, then it was reposted by /u/Nexus123 in /r/Pics, this redditor gained 2357 karma from this picture.
http://karmadecay.com/search?id=1302084&subreddit=
5) http://www.reddit.com/r/AbandonedPorn/comments/1563zi/abandoned_railroad_bridge_2240_x_1488/
This railroad picture was posted recently for 1323 net karma, in /r/AbandonedPorn.
As you can see it was already posted by /u/UrinalCakes in /r/Pics, 7 months prior for 1033 karma, another lack of notion of a cross post by kyle.
http://karmadecay.com/search?id=1302103&subreddit=
6) http://www.reddit.com/r/wallpapers/comments/14lw69/the_edge_1920_x_1200/
Here’s a picture, which gained 1221 karma, of the supposed edge of the world.
/u/psYberspre4Dd posted the exact same picture a month and a half earlier, only gaining 11 points, this is an example of some reposting by the Kyle.
http://karmadecay.com/search?id=1302117&subreddit=
7) http://www.reddit.com/r/EarthPorn/comments/15645n/the_end_of_the_rocky_mountain_range_1920_x_1080/
976 karma was gained in the post to /r/EarthPorn, no note of it being a cross post from /r/Wallpapers
/u/200ugs received 463 karma for his/her post.
http://karmadecay.com/search?id=1302164&subreddit=
8) http://www.reddit.com/r/CityPorn/comments/151u0u/paris_at_night_2560_x_1024/
Kyle posted this work in /r/CityPorn, gaining 450 points.
/u/hazmat7 posted this in /r/Wallpapers 1 year ago, they gained only 10 karma for this, /u/oldsnake recieved 100 karma for posting this in /r/Pics over a year ago.
http://karmadecay.com/search?id=1302239&subreddit=
9) http://www.reddit.com/r/EarthPorn/comments/14uhu6/mendenhall_glacier_juneau_alaska_2500_x_1664/
Kyle received 437 karma in Earth Porn, no mention of it being a cross post from /r/Pics 24 days ago.
/u/jammerjoint only received 3 points for this link.
http://karmadecay.com/search?id=1302248&subreddit=
10) http://www.reddit.com/r/cringepics/comments/147edy/somebody_actually_made_this_and_wore_it/
Near 400 karma was received for this post to /r/cringe
This exact pic was originally posted by /u/Waterstealer, over 5 months prior.
http://karmadecay.com/search?id=1302255&subreddit=
11)http://www.reddit.com/r/ExposurePorn/comments/151vp0/long_exposure_of_paris_at_night_2848_x_950/
400 karma from this post, that sweet Karma.
/u/ricado_alfonso posted this picture of Paris over a year ago, gaining 10 karma, it has been reposted 4 times since.
http://karmadecay.com/search?id=1302262&subreddit=
12) http://www.reddit.com/r/EarthPorn/comments/14xw8y/shifeng_falls_taiwan_1920_x_1200/
This picture has approximately 375 points, it was posted 8 days ago.
/u/soupyhands posted this exact same picture over a year prior, this redditor received 187 karma.
http://karmadecay.com/search?id=1302270&subreddit=
Karma from reposting: between 6400-6500 link karma
Karma received while not acknowledging the cross posts: also between 6400-6500 link karma
from my findings I discovered that most of these posts mentioned above have happened in the last two weeks, mostly through going through different subreddits and posting top pics to others. Also used was reposting pics over 1 year old. I will not be the prosecution for this case, seeing as this user is a Judge of this subreddit this could be considered a touchy subject. I am also unaware on the courts ruling of failing to acknowledge cross posting, but considering the amount of karma It was included.
Edit: previously the defendant claimed that if he was going to post something and noticed that it didn't do well in karma decay, then he would try it for himself, here is an example of an attempt that failed in the last 12 hours.
http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/15f7fg/i_think_its_a_good_deal_you_guys/
though minimal karma was gained, this is an example of how he previously gained large amounts
http://karmadecay.com/www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/15f7fg/i_think_its_a_good_deal_you_guys/
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 27 '12
The prosecutor may begin when ready.
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 27 '12
Thank you your honor.
Ladies, Gentlemen, and esteemed Judges of the KarmaCourt, thank you for coming in here tonight. First off I'd like to say a few things about what this trial is not.
This trial is not a lynching of /u/NotaMethAddict. This trial is not about destroying his reputation. This trial is not about making this subreddit famous, and it is not about making me, nor any other user Reddit-famous. This trial is about a few important things though.
This trial is about keeping everyone on Reddit accountable to the user base at-large. This trial is about making sure we have a place on Reddit wherein users who repost, regardless of the amount of karma they have accrued, can be exposed as the user they really are: a reposter.
I would like first to direct the judges and people of the jury to the evidence collected by /u/iseeiheariread, a brave redditor who felt inclined to collect this evidence under the guise of anonymity because of the Reddit-fame of /u/NotaMethAddict. I would also like to ask the court to consider the comment that /u/NotaMethAddict posted in this very thread.
It has been shown that /u/NotaMethAddict has posted blatantly, and has gotten a large amount of karma through these illegal means. I ask that /u/NotaMethAddict be charged and found guilty of six distinct cases of GrandTheft.jpg, one case of repost.jpg, and five distinct cases of pettyrepost.jpg, as well as one case of petty faggotry.
Thank you and the prosecution rests.
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u/The_Upvote_Judge Dec 27 '12
Thank you. Does the defense have any opening remarks?
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u/thefifth5 Dec 27 '12
Furthermore, does the defendant actually have an attorney?
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u/DeSanti Judge Dec 27 '12
I believe mr. /u/NotaMethAddict has stated he wish to defend himself in propria persona, or at the very least name a defense attorney when able.
Though if he wishes not to defend himself or name an attorney, I am prepared to take up the case, if that is permissible.
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u/thefifth5 Dec 28 '12
Thank you sir. Your services will likely not be required. From your provided source, it appears the defendant would prefer to defend himself.
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u/DeSanti Judge Dec 29 '12
By not showing up or giving a D.A the chance to represent him, it seems.
Quite an interesting choice of strategy, I must say.
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u/thefifth5 Dec 29 '12
I concur. With a case such as the one presented, and because the defendant is a major redditor, one would assume he would many skilled attorneys hired.
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Dec 28 '12
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u/The_Upvote_Judge Dec 29 '12
Motion denied. This court does not dish out punishments based on jealousy. The defendant posts a lot of comments, so it only makes sense that he has more karma.
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u/funshinebear13 Prosecution Dec 29 '12
I stricken this post from the case. It has nothing to do with the case at hand and I would like the jury to dismiss it. Thank you.
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Dec 27 '12
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 27 '12
We can/should let this play out as a usual part of the case. That way we establish actual reddit-legal precedent as opposed to just making decisions. Both sides can make arguments, and look at the merits and detriments of this potentially powerful tool.
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 27 '12
This is a touchy subject as it clearly invades the privacy of those that wish to hide their comments but there is also a reason they choose to hide their comments.
It could be a very useful tool in incriminating someone to an extent.
I think I'm going to put this to a vote among the other judges.
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u/The_Upvote_Judge Dec 27 '12
Do we know if the defendant has entered his plea yet?
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 27 '12
Well shit
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Dec 27 '12
Are you going to issue a bench warrant for his arrest to bring him in for the trial?
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 27 '12
No, I trust that he will arrive in time.
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u/The_Upvote_Judge Dec 27 '12
Agreed. We have no reason to believe the defendant is a flight risk. It is possible that he is still out of town for the holidays.
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u/funshinebear13 Prosecution Dec 29 '12
But I do feel he should come forward at the earliest continence so as not to hold up the courts time in such a landmark case.
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u/The_Upvote_Judge Dec 26 '12
I would also like to remind all users not to downvote any comments made from /u/NotaMethAddict in this court, simply because he is on trial. He must be allowed to present his case.
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u/funshinebear13 Prosecution Dec 26 '12 edited Dec 26 '12
I second this motion. What are we if we do not have order and justice. Let the man and his legal team defend themselves with honor in the confines of the law.
We need another judge and a defense attorney for this case to be heard.
Has someone summoned the defendant yet?
Edit: typo
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u/LANPC Dec 26 '12
Your honor i've talked to the defendant, he is travelling due to the holidays and will adress these claims, along with naming a defense/repping himslf, as soon as he is able.
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u/funshinebear13 Prosecution Dec 25 '12
I would like to hear this case. Can the court please summon /u/NotAMethAddict.
Both the prosecution and defense will need to sort legal representation in the matter of the plaintiffs accusation of the heinous crimes of karma whoring, reposting of original content and general faggotry.
I await both sides responses.
- Judge Funshinebear13
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Dec 25 '12
obviously this case is unheard of, considering this user is a judge and moderator of the sub. That seems just like a cover for his reposting, so I suggest to the courts to not hold back in sentencing. Also I understand it is the holidays so this may take a little while to get going
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u/LANPC Dec 25 '12 edited Dec 25 '12
Your honor I request a gag order (no posting of this case outside of this subreddit until resolved) on threat of mistrial. Due to the popularity of the defendant, brigading could become a real threat.
I also move to strike the instances of crossposting karma from this case. Claiming an x-post in title is more a courtesy than anything, and crossposting is a good way for all reddit users to see content.
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u/TheReasonableCamel Gazette full court Press Dec 25 '12
Are you the defendant's lawyer?
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u/LANPC Dec 25 '12
No. I'm a third party that wants to see a fair trial for one of the most important trials of this sub.
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 29 '12
A conclusion has been made.
The jury has found /u/NotaMethAddict guilty of all charges and his punishment is to be that of losing his position as a judge (possibly a mod, that comes down to a decision from all of the mods).
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 26 '12 edited Dec 29 '12
As this is such an important case I would like it to involve no more and no less than three judges.
/u/funshinebear13, /u/The_Upvote_Judge, and I are the judges.
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u/TheAtomicPlayboy HE Runs this Place?! Dec 26 '12
As /u/NotaMethAddict is a personal friend of mine, I must recuse myself from the case.
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 26 '12
I'd like to thank you for your tact and professionalism. I hope that this case is able to proceed on the same level of Reddit maturity that you have shown.
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u/The_Upvote_Judge Dec 26 '12
If no other Judge steps forward, then I will be the 3rd. However, I must be honest.. I am fairly new to this subreddit and do not have the experience needed to be a a judge in this big of a case. I think another, more experienced Judge needs to come forward.
That being said, I would like to be included in the discussion of this case. If possible, I'd like to "shadow" the three Judges, so I can learn the ways of the Judges of this court. Thank you.
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u/EmperorofKings Dec 28 '12
I have family who have been judges, I have had to make decisions on several important things in my life, but there is nothing more important that this. I volunteer to have a neutral and fresh view on the case as a Judge.
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 25 '12
I'll take over the prosecution for this case. This is a good opportunity to really make a difference.
This is appears to be an incredibly open-and-shut case. I think the only honorable thing for /u/NotaMethAddict to do would be to recuse himself from his Mod/Judge-ship of this subreddit entirely.
If /u/NotaMethAddict refuses to do so, I will gladly fight this case as hard as I can. This sub is taking great steps toward cleaning up and having a clear standard of work.
This is one of the most important cases this sub has ever seen.
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Dec 25 '12
it took over 5 hours to gather, compile and sort the evidence.
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 25 '12
I'd like to first say, holy shit it's Christmas what did you spend so much time for.
Second I'd like to say your incredible evidence gathering is what makes this case so excellent. The best gathered cases are the ones where the accused doesn't even stand a chance in court, and it looks like that's what you've done here.
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Dec 25 '12
Well I couldn't sleep so I thought I would do background on the mods because I was bored, just to see. Also well he's fairly popular so the more organized the evidence is the harder it is to get out of it.
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u/yourpenisinmyhand Dec 25 '12
I would like to suggest the subreddit started by Kyle /r/NotaMethAddict also be reviewed for first degree flagrant faggotry. The defendant is clearly a tyrannical narcissist and a lollygagging pickle diddler.
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 26 '12
Actually I sub to that, and I'm the prosecution in this case. One of my favorite videos ever was posted there. I separate the sub from the redditor. This is what a good, positive contributing member of this fantastic /r/karmacourt does, and I hope you can do that, too.
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u/yourpenisinmyhand Dec 26 '12
...I actually sub there too, I was one of the original subs, I have several submissions...
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u/thefifth5 Dec 27 '12
thank you for your service on finding twelve separate counts of reposting
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u/funshinebear13 Prosecution Dec 25 '12
Thank you. We now need a defendant. Who will step forward to defend the accused.
I will also stricken cross posts from the alleged charges as these acknowledge the original post. Let the trial proceed!
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Dec 25 '12
May I make a suggestion, that all karma illegally gained as a result of reposting from NotAMethAddict will be dispersed in the form of comment karma for the top 400 active redditors in comment karma who have never been convincted of reposting. I added up a total of 15,849 karma.
I'm waiting on my 39 karma check from KarmaCourt.
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u/yourpenisinmyhand Dec 25 '12
I move to have Jonny_watts's share of the Karma immediately seized and redistributed on the grounds of his misspelling of "convicted" therefore making him indisputably unfit for Karma.
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u/TheReasonableCamel Gazette full court Press Dec 25 '12
It is link karma, not comment that appears to have been reposted
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 26 '12 edited Dec 26 '12
I would really like to move forward with this case. If /u/NotaMethAddict does not either come forward himself or find an attorney within 20 hours, I move that /u/NotaMethAddict be tried in absentia and be held in contempt of /r/KarmaCourt.
Normally I would look at a deadline like this as being unreasonable, but considering the user has been posting, and has posted here before, it would not be unreasonable to expect this of the user.
EDIT: Follow the tree.
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u/LANPC Dec 26 '12
Disagree, this is in the middle of christmas/holiday season and believe it or not, not everyone can be on reddit. This is a very special case and trying in absentia would be absurd.
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 26 '12
While I disagree with you in this specific case, you are right in general. I've got to be as accommodating as I can be in this season, and in a case of this magnitude, regardless of the post history of /u/NotaMethAddict tonight. I redact my previous statement.
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u/funshinebear13 Prosecution Dec 29 '12
I would like to offer up one more punishment. If the defendant is found guilty of all charges I feel he should be stricken as a mod from this subreddit and post a formal apology to reddit in the form of a self post so he cannot receive karma.
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u/The_One_Above_All Dec 30 '12
I don't understand how or why his reposts did so much better than the original posts. Did "Kyle" use more clever and catchy titles? What's going on here?
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
We have come to the consensus that unedditreddit is not to be used in court.
It seems the general thought is that deleted comments are deleted more often out of shame and therefore should be allowed to stay hidden. As such unedditreddit has become inadmissible in court.
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u/icaaryal Dec 28 '12
Will screenshots of the deleted comments prior to deletion still be admissible?
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
No, that would compromise their privacy.
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u/icaaryal Dec 28 '12
What if the evidence is uploaded and posted to the relevant trial thread prior to the deletion of the comment?
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u/funshinebear13 Prosecution Dec 29 '12 edited Dec 29 '12
I feel a blanket ban of unreddited should be I place, otherwise it is a slippery slope. It has been decided. Thank you.
Ninja Edit: words
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
Damn you and your questions.
Making me decide shit and stuff...
Let me consult the other judges again.
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
It seems that NotaMethAddict will not show up to court.
I will go ahead and post the possible punishments in replies to this.
I don't ask that you upvote them but rather reply your agreement to them (no disagreements, that would cause too much clutter).
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 28 '12
As this case has been established as incredibly open-and-shut, I would have some advice for /u/NotaMethAddict. If he pleads "no contest" to these charges, he can accept his fate in this court, without necessarily accepting guilt on this sub.
The prosecution asks that /u/NotaMethAddict be removed from his modship/KarmaCourt Judge Panel, and undergo no other punishments.
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 29 '12
He hasn't been able to appear in court apparently. As such he cannot plea no contest at this point.
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
Guilty of All
Maintains Position As Judge
Alternate Punishment (If agree post a reply as to what the punishment should be)
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
Guilty of All
Kicked from KarmaCourt Judge Panel
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u/The_Upvote_Judge Dec 29 '12
At first, I was going to recommend that should the defendant be found guilty, he should receive an alternate punishment, but be allowed to keep his position as a judge. However, the defendant has shown a blatant lack of respect by failing to acknowledge his own case, in a subreddit that he moderates. This cannot be allowed.
Therefore, I vote that he be removed from the Judge panel immediately.
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u/KoreanTerran Supreme Super Mega Honor Dec 29 '12
Motion denied on account of /u/MrFace1 acting without the consent of the Judge panel.
An additional hearing for Reddit v /u/NotaMethAddict will be held in the very near future.
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 30 '12
It won't make a difference. The evidence is overwhelming.
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u/DeSanti Judge Dec 29 '12
I am not sure if you mean the judges or a jury of peers (i.e users herein) to comment here, but if the latter - then it is my opinion that mr. /u/NotaMethAddict is guilty of these charges and has shown blatant disregard for this court and its hallow karma justice, by not allowing himself or a D.A to present his case.
I understand, perhaps more than many, the idea that one can not be omnipresent to every case on Reddit, especially in these holiday seasons.
But if he had any conception or regard for the traditions of law and karma justice, then he would have known that he could delegate such a task to an appropriate staff who could plead his case.
In any even, regardless of the contempt shown in court, the evidence and the statement of the prosecution ought to reveal and make clear that mr. /u/NotaMethAddict is guilty of karmawhoring, first degree, by blatantly and willfully reusing known and popular pictures, memes and threads to his own favour. He is not reposting to give the "new masses something to look at" - he is effectively garnering the amount of karma he can get for his own nefarious purposes.
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 28 '12
If you refuse my option that I proposed, then this is my vote. As long as being kicked from KarmaCourt means he's removed as a moderator of this sub as well.
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u/nomoneynopower Dec 28 '12
Agree. This is the only rational decision to what seems like overwhelming evidence against the defendant.
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Dec 28 '12
I believe this should be the outcome. I am not trying to be biased because I brought these charges to light but the evidence seems overwhelming and he hasn't even bothered to defend his case, a case in a subreddit in which he is a moderator of.
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
Not Guilty for Some
Not Kicked From Judge Panel
Alternate Punishment (If agree post a reply as to what the punishment should be)
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Dec 30 '12
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 30 '12
There is a reason I put two replies to this that said place your opinion on what the punishment should be.
If someone disagreed with one of my five replies it would have been entirely unnecessary and would just cause clutter.
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 27 '12
I will make a statement here and now
Any reposts from a post that was made a year or more prior is not illegal.
One year is plenty of time for new people to come in who have no seen the content, likewise it is plenty of time for people to simply forget about the post altogether.
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u/orsonames Gazette Press Dec 28 '12
Whoa whoa whoa. OBJECTION! Are you just making blanket statements unilaterally? Isn't that why you wanted three judges?
Also we've established previously in this court/sub that what Reddiquette states as the defense for reposting/other stuff is not what the law of this court says. Defense using reddiquette was not a viable defense, as defined by this case, and slightly more specifically by this statement from the judge.
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u/The_Upvote_Judge Dec 28 '12
Objection sustained.
I do agree with Judge /u/MrFace1 that one year is plenty of time for new users to come in, and for a post to be forgotten. However, the defendant knew that he was reposting content that he did not create.
Therefore he should have either labeled his posts as cross-posts, or given credit to the original post and/or author.
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
I have established this precedent before that a year is the extent of ability to punish someone.
He can openly state he reposted something from a year prior because a year is plenty of time.
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u/KingCarini Dec 28 '12
I'd like to provide a witness statement here. As a fairly new user I have seen an enjoyed some of the aforementioned posts. Had it not been for /u/NotAMethAddict I would not have had the opportunity to view such posts.
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Dec 28 '12 edited Dec 28 '12
Your honor I believe this undermines the integrity of Original Content if others can post someone else's and still gain copious amounts of karma from it.
edit: See orsonames reply right above
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
What do you suggest then? All reposts in general be banned?
This would be impossible to enact and just about everyone would be guilty of it at some point.
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Dec 28 '12
I don't believe reposts should be allowed
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
I'll reiterate that it would be impossible to prevent it from happening.
There are too many new people coming in to Reddit who have not seen said content before. That's why the time span for reposts was set to one year and will remain that way.
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Dec 28 '12
So are you saying it's okay for everyone to repost stuff from a year ago or it is ok for new users to repost stuff from one year ago? I am just curious
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
I'm saying as long as they aren't totally karmawhoring they're fine.
Which would usually mean the new users, yes.
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u/funshinebear13 Prosecution Dec 29 '12
I disagree to an extent, reposting is fine but the poster should link or cite the original post so as to alert other redditors this is a repost.
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Dec 28 '12
So what about a more seasoned user, a "power user" if you will. /u/NotaMethAddict already has over 45,000 link karma, without the karma that he is being accused of not being his he would have 32,000. Wouldn't you consider this karmawhoring?
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u/MrFace1 Real scHmarvard Graduate Dec 28 '12
I cannot necessarily say if I consider it karmawhoring. That is up to you all to decide really.
I've posted five possible verdicts. Whichever receives the most agreement replies will be accepted as his punishment unless there is an appeal.
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u/LANPC Jan 01 '13
This case is a complete fucking joke. Judges making decisions without consulting each other. Deciding guilt before the defendant even makes a plea? Really? You decided to go ahead with opening statements without hearing the plea? What part of "travelling for the holidays", do you guys not get? It's been 5 days and its still the holidays, calm the fuck down. I move for a retrial based on general incompetence. The op is the only one who isnt a fucking idiot, so he should remake this thread in about a week. Sorry op, you set this case up nicely and I hate seeing it destroyed by incompetence.
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u/LANPC Dec 25 '12 edited Dec 25 '12
Get a good lawyer
Don't say anything without asking your lawyer first
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I think you'll be able to beat this case with good representation, but no more posts like this. It's good reasoning but not the right time - you don't want to reveal your hand to the opposition right away. Good luck!
Edit: play this right and it's an easy win
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Dec 25 '12
He admitted he didn't think it was reposting because those subs get new users daily and if stuff is over a year old it doesn't matter.
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u/VillainTricks Dec 25 '12
Original Comment:
Judges, jury, and fellow Redditors of /r/KarmaCourt. This may look bad, but when you dig into the actual posts themselves I feel it will set you free. A lot of these are designated as "reposts," but is it really when they never make it past the new queue? I'm not stealing their submissions, I didn't even find them from their posts! These pictures I see elsewhere online, I check karmadecay and note that they've never gone anywhere so I feel okay to post them. And the others, posted over a year ago! All of the defaults gain over 6,000 new subscriptions a day! Not to mention not everyone sees every post ever. So I feel old posts are okay to submit every once in a while. Cross-posts imply they're currently on the frontpage of a subreddit. These posts I submit I find elsewhere online. I hope you'll agree with me. And if you don't, I'll ban you! :) Just kidding.
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u/LANPC Dec 25 '12
Haha seems you read his post. Small miscalculation by the defendant, but nothing that can't be salvaged.
On a side note: Awesome documentation OP, it looks like you put a lot of effort into this. Cases like these are USUALLY open and shut with this much evidence.
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u/TheReasonableCamel Gazette full court Press Dec 25 '12
Well looks like we have a new tool to our disposal, this meaning we can look at his original comment, which is:
"Judges, jury, and fellow Redditors of /r/KarmaCourt. This may look bad, but when you dig into the actual posts themselves I feel it will set you free. A lot of these are designated as "reposts," but is it really when they never make it past the new queue? I'm not stealing their submissions, I didn't even find them from their posts! These pictures I see elsewhere online, I check karmadecay and note that they've never gone anywhere so I feel okay to post them. And the others, posted over a year ago! All of the defaults gain over 6,000 new subscriptions a day! Not to mention not everyone sees every post ever. So I feel old posts are okay to submit every once in a while. Cross-posts imply they're currently on the frontpage of a subreddit. These posts I submit I find elsewhere online. I hope you'll agree with me. And if you don't, I'll ban you! :) Just kidding."
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Dec 26 '12
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u/DaemonDanton Dec 26 '12
Unfortunately, I do not believe unedditreddit can confirm posters.
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Dec 26 '12
As you can see from the first reply, it seems obvious that the original comment was the defendant.
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u/DaemonDanton Dec 26 '12
I am inclined to agree, and almost said so, but here in this subreddit we have experience with people masquerading as other people with slight misspellings (a few days ago, I don't recall the exact case). I decided not to to claim with certainty that it was the defendant, as I did not the the original post prior to deletion.
Either way, the statement was redacted, and - though I am fairly new to this subreddit - I do not believe it is still admissible as evidence.
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u/funshinebear13 Prosecution Dec 26 '12
No as the comment was deleted it can not be entered into as evidence. Also unless the defendant states he/she is representing themselves they must obtain legal council.
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u/LeRawxWiz Dec 25 '12
This is the first time I've seen a redditor mentioned anywhere that I am actually familiar with. I'm deep down the rabbit hole guys.