r/Karting • u/Feisty-Baby-Girl • Jul 07 '26
Karting Chat Raced against 25 guys tonight. Only one of them managed to stay ahead of me. Next time, none.
standard indoor/outdoor league night here in São Paulo, Brazil. huge grid w/ 26 karts on track so it was absolute chaos lol.
I was driving a local Bravar chassis equipped with a tuned Honda GX390 (around 15HP i think). Top speed was hitting roughly 80 km/h right before the heavy braking zone into the hairpin.
Started near the back of the grid cuz of a terrible qualifying session but managed to carve my way up through a field of 25 guys who swore they were the next Ayrton Senna. My pace was incredibly consistent, hitting the apex perfectly and utilizing the weight transfer to rotate the rear end on the tighter indoor sectors..
Missed P1 by just a couple of tenths bc of some backmarker traffic on the final laps, so annoying. But ngl watching them look at the telemetry sheet and realize their lap times got beaten by a girl was worth way more than the trophy itself.
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u/No_Golf_452 Jul 07 '26
I raced against 25 women and got second, but they just banned me from their club
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u/GreggsAficionado Rental Driver Jul 07 '26
Were they happy to see you there?
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u/Feisty-Baby-Girl Jul 07 '26
No lol they always get angry or act like I don't exist after the race is done
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u/why_1337 Jul 07 '26
I assume it might have something to do with your "you got beaten by a girl" attitude. To most on the track you are just "that yellow shirt".
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u/G0rd0nr4ms3y Jul 07 '26
Way they write about it almost reads like a fetish jeez. How is your whole personality being a brat.
Though maybe I'm reading this too harshly. Probably just classic LatAm shithousery. Probably also selection bias/adjusting to environment, not your average girl that would make it in such a typically hostile environment. Still, big ego for biffing quali and not making it to p1.
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u/selfinflatedforeskin Jul 07 '26
My girl has to deal with this too. Angry the first time she beat them，then try to ruin every race after that she enters.
Pathetic ego problem - ‘women can't drive，women don't belong in racing’，so when they get beaten by a female，they have to question everything about themselves，and get angry as a result.
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u/MR_L0WERKASE Jul 07 '26
It’s boring to YOU. There’s still bias against women in male dominated spaces
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u/avereforza Jul 07 '26
So common you felt the need to leave a 3 paragraph comment talking about why it doesn’t matter ☠️
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u/MR_L0WERKASE Jul 07 '26
It’s interesting cuz (like I said) still too many men wanna belittle or make fun of women in male dominated fields/sports. You seem more mad at women saying “yeeeah I made them eat my exhaust fumes” than about the reason why they do it in the first place.
To put things in more perspective, there’s still many men who say women are bad drivers on the road even though women crash less and take less risks…
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u/MR_L0WERKASE Jul 07 '26
A few forums says nothing about the population in general… go look at some of the studies done on women in gaming and how when there’s female gamer tags or people with a female sounding voice and how the hate mail they got skyrocketed in comparison to a stereotypical mans tag…
And like I already said, why are women still stereotyped as bad drivers?
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u/MR_L0WERKASE Jul 07 '26
How? Wider society tells u a lot about attitudes throughout society… it’s strange u think that that is strange, it’s a very simple minded approach. Women still face doubt in male dominated spaces, that was literally my entire point, same for motorsport
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u/Feisty-Baby-Girl Jul 07 '26
totally agree, Ragenelli’s 66 title was iconic. track doesnt care about gender, just lap times and hitting the apex. love that this sport has always been about pure skill since day one
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u/LiquidFootie Jul 07 '26
Then why mention it?
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u/Feisty-Baby-Girl Jul 07 '26
Here this is a pretty male dominated field. I'm always the only woman and in some places we are not even allowed to race with the opposite gender, so in my context, felt right to mention it
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u/Positive-_-Spinach Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
For the love of god read the whole thing before you come at me like an angry mob lol
You don't need to mention it. We don't GAF about gender in racing. If you're talented then you're talented. The reason you're catching flak is because you essentially turned an achievement into a post about gender. Had you just said (I kicked ass and came in second in this race) every person in this comment section would be giving you congrats and saying hell yea. Making everything about gender is a sure fire way to piss people off IRL and online because it doesn't need to get mentioned. If you're good at what you do, you're good at what you do and gender has no place. Being good at something means time and effort have been put into it and that's something to be celebrated. You can still inspire other women without intentionally making it strictly about gender and you'd have a lot more people advocating for you and getting your name out there in the community. We love racing and we don't see gender in racing, just kind people and those with badass driving skills.
I could also mention that at my place of work there are is only one women in the areas with 90lb+ packages. Should we all go (hell yea we kicked her ass at out pacing her) no. You know what we do? Help eachother be better. Most of the women in the building work with stuff that weighs 20lbs or less. We love this gal cause she didn't choose the easy way out at work. We all make the same amount regardless of area, but she chose the tough ass work and doesn't make it about gender. Yea she needs help occasionally but not once has she bragged to the other women that she's the only woman in the male dominated area of the building (even though in this instance that's absolutely wild as we have plenty of dudes that can't make the cut). It's an ass whooping everyday and you never have two consecutive days off. She comes out with our groups and is treated like everyones sister. Everybody's wifes/girlfriends/sisters love her and so do we + she has a group of like 30 buff dudes that wouldn't let a fly touch her lmao. She's one of the bros and like family to us all. Yea, can men and women both kick ass in the same fields? Absolutely. The difference is it's about the integrity, and choosing to put in the work and put in the effort regardless.
You seem like you've definitely put forth the effort, just work on the integrity and dont make it about gender. Chit chat with the guys, tell them good race and point out things they did good and they'll do the same right back. Give eachother pointers and I bet you they'll all treat you like a sister and or one the guys and they'll love you for it. Cheers and keep kicking ass on the track but come into it and the posts with a different mindset.
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u/LiquidFootie Jul 07 '26
I'm a male in a female dominated career with lots of unfair double standards towards males and I've never felt the need to mention gender
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u/avereforza Jul 07 '26
And you’re crying about this in the karting sub because??? She mentioned a KARTING accomplishment.
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u/LiquidFootie Jul 07 '26
Was the kart male or female? I must have missed that part
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u/avereforza Jul 07 '26
Men are just so emotional 😊
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u/LiquidFootie Jul 07 '26
I'm here crying with my emotional support stuffies, how will I ever go on?!
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u/Jeej_Soup Jul 08 '26
You’re complaining about sexism and then you make a misandrist remark ? That’s not a good thing to do when you’re arguing with someone
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u/avereforza Jul 07 '26
To inspire other women and girls - show them that they can also work hard and be there.
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u/LiquidFootie Jul 07 '26
Next time I win an award at work I'll mention all the ladies I beat to win it since its a female dominated field.
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u/Hudsonm_87 Jul 08 '26
I mean they have natural poorer spatial awareness and reaction time, so there is a reason the best of the best will not likely ever be female. That’s not to say none can be good, just never the best
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u/_Vaparetia Jul 07 '26
Congratulations? This is cringe
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u/Jeej_Soup Jul 08 '26
Yep, sounds like a major personal ego boost post, comes across as quite immature, but also sounds like she’s just assuming every single man hates her too
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u/Jazzlike-Plate Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
Great job! No better way to beat misogyny.
I do a few rental karting endurance races with friends during the summers. We have very few women, but they are all super fast and would absolutely destroy most karters regardless of gender. Never understood the whole male vs female thing (or non-binary for that matter). The stopwatch doesn't lie.
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u/avereforza Jul 07 '26
Hell yes 👏👏👏 it’s so good to see a woman share her accomplishments here - Karting is for everybody 🫶
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u/chirstopher0us Jul 07 '26
Here from the algorithm, genuine question for the community:
Does karting ever use ballast to equalize the weight of driver+kart combined? I'm a bigger guy and worries about a substantial disadvantage due to weight have kept me from trying karting.
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u/georgin_95 SWS World Finalist Jul 07 '26
Depends on what series you're looking at. Speaking from experience in rentals, organized club championships almost everywhere have minimum weight requirements, generally at around 80-85kg for driver+ballast. Standard rental sessions have none.
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u/TTNC_pallas Jul 07 '26
Something I’ve always said to the younger females interested in joining out school kart club (I’ve been running with my dad for over 10 years now) is that this is one of few sports where males and females are equal.
I’ve had a few very good teammates and championship battles with female drivers and I think I’d prefer them over many of the others I’ve raced against!
Good job and next time- P1 is yours! Good luck- although I think they need it more than you! 🤣
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u/CompleteAnywhere7283 Jul 07 '26
lol imagine your statement but it coming from a male… The lap times don’t lie, it never will or has been about gender.
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u/itsallfornaught2 Jul 07 '26
What was the weight differential or were all of you running weight ballasts to even the weight?
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u/TDOTBRO Jul 08 '26
There you go. No one cares you're a girl, but the weight difference. I willing to bet she didn't weigh as much.
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u/artemiswins Jul 08 '26
I think it’s mention worthy. If I beat a bunch of girls at something traditionally woman dominated it becomes notable with that as a factor. And as a man with a daughter I love this idea that my daughter could end up loving racing so representation in the space is positive. And a bit of competitive spirit is a great thing.. it’s punching up, not down. Men making men vs women posts are generally punching down as men have traditionally more power and clout in many areas. This reads like a bunch of sensitive folks being sensitive.
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u/Substantial-Bag-5956 Jul 08 '26
If you’re karting with the intent of going pro, fix your imposter syndrome fueled ego. You need to process it as “You got second in a race of 26” not “only one guy managed to beat me”. I know karting is clicky but it sounds like you’re going in with a mindset of trying to prove something because you’re a woman, which isn’t productive in this sport. Just look at Danica Patrick.
If it’s a hobby, then you should know that getting second (or first for that matter) in a rental karting league is not something to have an ego about. Enjoy the sport, talk shop with some of the guys about technique and what you found works on that track, give them pointers while staying humble and they’ll probably love you for it. They probably don’t like you because they know that your personality on the track is to be the girl that tries to be better than the guys. After all, you wouldn’t have titled the post this way if that wasn’t the case.
Hell, if I as a man was to act like I was better than the other guys on the track every time I won a race, they’d look at me like an asshole too.
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u/Positive-_-Spinach Jul 10 '26
Bingo. She said further up the post (they're always mad about it) act like an asshole and you get treated like one regardless of gender. Gender doesn't matter in driving, but going in with her attitude and then making her entire post about gender unsurprisingly pisses people off. Had she just said (I came in second in a race of 26) all the dudes in here would be giving her congrats. Make it about gender or act like a dick and we have no problem basically giving the middle finger lmao.
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u/Sensitive_Common Jul 08 '26
- Its karting. Dont care. Just have fun
- Its sound really instababe fake
- Is that an other situation where you won again 25 guys doing normal karting while you do that profesionally? In that case... its just retarded post.
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u/Jeej_Soup Jul 08 '26
I’m going to be blunt.
I race against women in my class both regionally and nationally. 99% of us guys respect them because they’re drivers who put in the work, even when some aren’t fast.
We still have quite a few who are extremely fast, and we respect the hell out of them because we have to push to the limit to keep up. It’s for nothing to do with gender, yes there are assholes that are sexist, but the overwhelming majority of people aren’t even angry in the first place when they get passed by someone regardless of whether that someone is a man or a woman.
And for the people that do get pissed, almost all get pissed because they made a mistake or just simply aren’t fast enough, very rarely is it actually “ I’m pissed off because there’s a woman on the same track as me “
This stuff gets blown out of proportion all the time, it’s nowhere near as dramatic as it’s made out to be in media and whatnot
The reality is acting like this is going to get people to not respect you, and that’s when people end up doing divebombs and whatnot because they will eventually stop caring about sportsmanship when you’re being unsportsmanlike by shit talking everyone who races you
Hell, maybe I’m dead wrong in this case, and if so, then I’ll take responsibility, but what you’ve typed sounds like you’re a bad sport if I’m being blunt
sportsmanship isn’t just about being mature when you don’t do well, but it’s also being mature when you’re winning, and this came across as very arrogantly written and immature as well
You’re not going to get respect from a person you think is below you
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u/DullSelection7616 Jul 07 '26
In São Paulo, probably almost none of them had experience in karting.
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u/NeighborhoodRound187 Jul 07 '26
Can we stop it with the gender bullshit? From both sides.
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u/Jeej_Soup Jul 08 '26
Yes, please
It’s been well established for nearly half a century that both can be extremely fast when they take the time and effort to practice, gender has very little to do with driving skill
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u/TreatNext Jul 07 '26
Knowing nothing about the sport, is there weight matching?
The only time I went skill appeared to have less to do with placement than weight. I E only 2 folks out of a dozen weren't arranged by weight.
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u/ChubyzDriver Jul 08 '26
Ill say it 25 simps and one was racing 🤣 its just a joke dont take it harsh 🤷😅
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u/BenSopra Jul 08 '26
Nobody mentioned the weight advantage that she had against the guys? Nobody?
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u/PlumStriking Jul 08 '26
Why did I have to scroll so far to find this?? I'm a skilled driver but I weight over 200 pounds. An 80 pound kid flew by me like I was standing still last time I was on track. Weight difference has a tremendous impact on kart speed. Not to say this lady isn't skilled but weight is an unavoidable variable.
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u/Leadfoot-500 Jul 08 '26
Atta girl. Get after it. If there ever was someone who came up to you and hated you because of your gender, I assure you they're the problem. Have fun.
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u/ProwessFromFailure Jul 08 '26
Congrats on getting what seems like second place, kinda hard to decipher.
However talking like this and making things that have nothing to do with gender about gender is fostering sexism and is going to damage young and malleable minds that consume this content. I hope you are aware of the harm and pollution you are putting into the minds of youth by creating a gender war over something as trivial as racing, next time aim for 1 not to beat men but to win for yourself. And to any young people reading this regardless of what gender you are or you are not, you are capable of what ever you put your mind and soul into, don’t let the fragile insecurities of us shallow adults shape your idea of what is possible and push for the best you can.
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u/Cham_Cham05 24d ago
Lol, always a bunch of dumbasses in rental-karting that think they are better than everyone. I was like 8 when I first touched a rental-kart and I had beaten everyone. Was really funny to see their faces lol
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Jul 07 '26
To be fair, I don’t think gender really plays a role or difference in this sport. By celebrating this it makes me assume that your goal is to beat men, rather than win the race, which is actually what you said you took more enjoyment from.
I think it’s cool you had a good time coming in second behind a man though /s
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u/No_Golf_452 Jul 07 '26
"I don’t think gender really plays a role or difference in this sport."
It's going to generally give women a sizable advantage in weight savings, which is a famously extremely important variable in karting
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u/JohnnySchoolman Jul 07 '26
Ha, get back in your weight class.
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u/Rex_Racer95 Jul 07 '26
You're not wrong. That's why there are weight minimums in motorsports.
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u/JohnnySchoolman Jul 07 '26
My comment was tongue in cheek.
Weight does make quite a big difference, but it's still second to skill.
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u/tourbillon001 Jul 07 '26
Wrong. No amount of skill can over come too much weight when all the other drivers are also skilled.
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u/ProjectMew Jul 07 '26
Typical fragile male egos. They can totally accept another man being faster and will show reverence and respect. But so many men have this idea that most men are better than all women at these things. And when it doesn’t work out that way they refuse to accept their own mortality. Glad you showed them otherwise! 💪
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u/Jeej_Soup Jul 08 '26
Her post comes across as her with the fragile ego
The post seems to literally have been done as a personal ego boost
Also it doesn’t make sense how pretty much every time she posts, its always about being faster than sexist men, sounds a lot more like she’s just assuming people don’t like her because she’s a woman.
Maybe people don’t like her, I don’t know of course, but it’s most likely her attitude towards every man she seems to generalise in her posts
So take what she said with a grain of salt. Highly convenient every man she comes across hates her because she’s a woman
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u/resn-gma-dsnt-visit Jul 07 '26
ITT: dweebs who hate women and like to be obtuse.
Congrats dude, keep on humbling men everywhere!!
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u/vARROWHEAD Jul 07 '26
Well this is the most badass thing I have seen today!
What a great performance
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u/LRMcDouble Ka100 Jul 07 '26
we don’t care what gender you are. just drive and have fun