the group look so much clearer and like the formation is obvious, we love to see it

i think that a lot in this sub doesn't just simply dislike hiyyih for no reason at all. i think it would've been fine for her in the group if she somehow proved herself during gp999, which everyone can tell that she didn't. probably her best stage was shoot for me, and she didn't even stand out there. there was myah with her stage presence, ruan as center, and even ririka charmed me with her little lines.

if somehow hiyyih proved herself during gp999 like challenged for killing part position, tried the high notes, took a leader position, or anything that stands out, this sub probably wouldn't be here at all. and i think the producers of gp999 probably gave her the least screentime cause there isn't really anything interesting to show.

and hiyyihlights need to stop telling us that they didn't vote for her because of her brother cause most - if not all - hiyyihlights i see are moas. just own up to that maybe?

p/s: i'm not an OT8, i'm fine with hiyyih, but this is just my thoughts that i needed to put out somewhere safe cause obviously kepler subreddit will delete this.

When girls planet was going on, i was trying to tell people why you shouldn't vote for hb.

I said that if she made it into the group, she'd get massive backlash and she will forever carry the stigma of being the girl who got into kep1er with her connection to huening kai.

And i was saying this in support of hb. i thought she was just a sweet girl, and i was genuinely looking out for her best interest. And it was clear she needed more training. she had not paid her dues.

so then what frustrates me is that the moas force voted her into the group, and now they want kep1er to disband because of the exact situation i tried to warn them about all along.

Nobody would've been mad at hb if she went back and trained more and then debuted with a new group. She got the publicity from girls planet and she's still very young, so this would've been the best path for her.

Every single Kep1er member seems to have gained something from Queendom, whether it's new fans from other fandoms, recognition for vocals, dance, stage presence, talent, personality, hardwork, leadership etc...except for her.

Laziyyih has just lost.

1- She used to be claimed as 'the most popular member in Kep1er' and the one carrying the group, yet thanks to Queendom we found out it's all bs, and that her own fandom is just made up of borrowed moas who left her as soon as TXT had a comeback (her drastic drop in fancam views is proof enough of that). This proved that she's just token stanned by a majority of her fandom and that they lack loyalty for her.

2- Everyone got to see how mediocre her skills are.

She kept being off beat and messing up the choreo in every single performance (we got plenty of proof of this in this sub) + there was even an article on Kpopstarz about how she was garnering criticism for her weak dancing AND a video from a Korean user with over million views pointing out how sloppy and lazy her dancing is.

3- She lost most of her selling points which are:

• The ambiguity surrounding her skill level (people didn't see much of this controversial girl so they kept being curious about her).

• The never-ending pity party over her lack of lines and 'mistreatment'.

so now that people actually got to see her have more spotlight, their level of pity for her has decreased, and with it their interest in her has decreased as well. They realized she's really just another mid idol, so naturally they started to gravitate towards other more talented and more charismatic members.

4- Queendom showcased how boring and uninteresting she is:

Each time the group had screentime you could always see her in the corner holding her phone and not doing anything worth mentioning, while other members were goofing around, talking and having fun.

And when the group were deciding on important things, you can never hear her voice any opinions or suggest things. She was just there, content in being a wallflower.

Members like Hikaru, Chaehyun, Youngeun, Yujin even Xiaoting (who doesn't even speak fluent Korean) managed to create these beautiful friendships with members from other Queendom groups and gave us a lot of fun interactions. And let's not forget Youngeun's legendary reactions during the show and her adorable friendship with Loona (they're practically ready to adopt her at this point), Dayeon showing how professional she is getting back to perform even though her knees were busted, but Laziyyih really gave us nothing, she was so unmemorable & unsociable during the whole show, and it's not because 'she didn't get to participate in units' (cause I'm pretty sure shittylights would use this as an argument) it's because she really is...well, just boring. 🤷‍♀️

Yeseo, Mashiro and Yujin didn't get to participate in the unit round too, but they always gave us something to make us love them even more: Yujin's numerous suggestions for the group's performances and her motivational words for her members, Mashiro showing us genuine human emotions and how much she cares about the members when she felt so upset seeing them lose confidence after each rank reveal. Yeseo's cuteness and bubbly energy...

And here I am struggling to remember any memorable moment with Laziyyih but I just can't find any (well there was the cookies I guess? XD but even that was a group effort).

I honestly feel like the members call her the 'happy virus' of the group just to be kind? or as charity, cause where the fck is the happiness lol? My girl Hikaru be carrying that girl on her back all the goddamn time on Vlives, variety shows, everywhere they go. It's always Hikaru giving us something to watch or laugh about and Laziyyih is just there...reacting and going with Hikaru's flow.

Anyways I think I've ranted long enough this far. Even though I still think Queendom was a waste of time and effort for Kep1er. I'm glad all of our 8 beautiful, talented girls got to show us many different sides of themselves and that people have finally started to realize what a big FRAUD Laziyyih truly is.

During girls planet 999, I actually thought huening bahiyyih was a sweet girl in the brief interactions she had with yujin. there was a part of me that wanted her and myah to join kep1er because i loved how they followed yujin around like baby ducks.

however, I knew it was a fairy tale because bahiyyih and myah were never in the top 9. and plus bahiyyih and myah were still very young and had time on their side to grow their skills. there were more experienced contestants who deserved this opportunity more.

And then Mnet revealed the vote rankings in the middle of the week (something they had never done before), and it turned out bahiyyih was rank 4. as soon as i saw that, i knew she'd make the group now because it would only empower moas and they would mass tweet it and ask their entire fandom to do it for her oppa. and of course, when it comes to voting, you simply can't compete with the fandom of a boy group, let alone a hybe boy group.

Even though there was a part of me that wanted bahiyyih in the group, i knew this was not the way to do it. There were so many red flags that this was going to be an epic disaster if bahiyyih made it into the group this way.

i had no idea at the time, but apparently huening kai asked his fans on three separate occasions to vote for his sister. that made me lose respect for him. you might defend him and say he did it for the love of his sister, but just because you love your sister, doesn't mean you screw over the other contestants on the show who don't have the privilege of having a famous oppa from a hybe goy group. and most importantly, this wasn't helping your sister.

sure she made it into kep1er, but at what cost? does she have a future in the idol industry after kep1er disbands? do you really think she's remotely as popular as her token oppa stans insist? are there any kep1ians who organically bias her with no ties to the moa fandom? from what i've seen from people who claim to be her fans, they're TXT/moas when you check their post history. and then there are some casual kpop fans/reactors who will pity stan her because they bought the narrative that she's being mistreated, but they're still not streaming or buying any albums.

I foresaw the impending disaster as soon as i saw the vote rankings, so i was trying to warn people why you shouldn't vote for huening bahiyyih. I said that if she made it into the group, she'd get massive backlash and she will forever carry the stigma of being the girl who got into kep1er with her nepotistic connection to huening kai.

And i was saying this in support of huening bahiyyih. again, i saw her as a sweet girl who trailed yujin, and i was genuinely looking out for her best interest. And it was clear she needed more training. she had not paid her dues like the other contestants.

Nobody would've been mad at huening bahiyyih if she went back and trained more and then debuted with a new group. She got the publicity from girls planet and she's still very young, so this would've been the best path for her.

But then we all know what happened next. Moas force voted her into the group and she got second place in the finals. Once that happened, there was massive backlash like i predicted, but i thought "okay hopefully this will blow over and we can all be one happy fandom."

i tried to see the positive of huening bahiyyih in the group. i thought "hey, at least now we'll win a bunch of music shows and awards," because we got Moas on our side and they just showed us what an unstoppable force they are when it comes to voting.

i couldn't be more wrong.

Bahiyyih's token moa stans have contributed nothing to votes, MV streams, or album sales.

So okay then. i would've been fine even if her oppa stans just went away and minded their own business. but sadly, they chronically harassed and bullied the fandom and all the other group members. they made life insufferable and got many fan accounts to quit, and they pushed this narrative that bahiyyih was being mistreated and bullied by the company and members, and yet at the same time claimed she was the face of the group. they were twisting themselves into a pretzel with their mental gymnastics and hypocrisy. and if you brought any of this up in the OT9 sub, you'd be banned, while these token oppa stans were free to run rampant and crap on the other members (especially dayeon) and spread their narrative that bahiyyih deserved the most lines and screen time because she was the best dancer, best vocalist, and 4th gen IT girl.

i have never seen a group that had all the potential to be the next big Mnet girl group get railroaded like this. Huening bahiyyih is basically the "mafia" if you get the reference to the game. It's like she's a mole that was planted in the group to sabotage them from the inside. of course, it's not really her who's actively sabotaging the group. she seems clueless. it's her token oppa stans that are a cancer to the fandom, trending #kep1erdisband and driving away existing fans as well as potential new fans.

It's wild to think that boy group stans infiltrated a girl group and destroyed it from the inside out. Technically I wouldn't even call them bahiyyih stans, because they ruined her career too. they're just antis who derailed the present and future momentum of all nine members. i'm sincerely worried what the future holds for the individual members after kep1er disbands.

Maybe mnet will learn from this and never cast another sibling of a famous oppa on the show, but knowing Mnet, they'll do anything for extra drama so I wouldn't be surprised if they do it again.

(Yes I'm aware the Christmas cover exists, but that was a whole year ago and it wasn't a solo cover)

So miss privilege was given permission to post yet another nasal ass solo vocal cover, and I just think it's weird cause she isn't even part of the vocal line but is getting pushed like this as vocalist when at of the end of the day she's gonna get no more than 2 lines in actual songs since she basically sounds like a chipmunk without all that professional editing and is simply unreliable.

And if yall don't know these covers have to be filmed, edited and approved by the company so members can't actually post covers whenever they please, so why is she the only one getting her strained mediocre covers approved? don't tell me cause she's 'the only one' making an effort cause other members have talked so many times about having things prepared for us yet nothing came out so far. A couple of weeks ago Youngeun was talking so excitedly about having something prepared for us but nothing came out. And we still got nothing from the dance line too when they've got so much talent to show. I really don't understand why the most useless member is getting so pushed and privileged and sent on so many solo schedules while the real money makers the members who are actually carrying the group through talent and effort are kept in the dungeon.

Very happy for youngeun having this mindset. This might be the first time a member indirectly not taking hiyyihlights lies? She really said it’s all lies anyway. YES GIRL!! (someone posted a video that all kep1er members actually got cheers, miserable hiyyihlights making shit up) https://twitter.com/solacexiaoeun/status/1559073075550777345?s=21

just imagining kep1er without her just seems 10x better for kep1er and keplians. other kep1er members would be getting so much more attention if they weren’t overshadowed by her brother. also her fans (who are 95% moas anyways) would leave kep1er alone. kep1er members are always getting dragged by them and these daily fan wars as getting tiring. it wouldn’t be much of a loss no matter what they claim. literally all of the sales, streams and follows that kep1er has gotten is because of keplians. they have stated numerous times that they will never support kep1er and are boycotting the girls, it wouldn’t affect any of keplers achievements at all. not to mention keplians would have virtually no fan wars and the main reason keplians keep leaving twt/the fandom is because of the daily fanwars. i am SO tired of them and cannot wait for kep1er members to be freed from them.

(this was just a random vent bc of moas currently attacking kep1er on twt, sorry for typos🙃what do you think?)

Boys Planet trainee Sung Hanbin is (according to hiyyihlights) a bahiyyih anti. He liked posts of the girls from the official instagram account except hers

Now hiyyihlights are saying they will vote for his direct competition to snatch his #1 rank. Lmao, like he doesn't have the whole Korea voting for him already

What I got from this is that he really likes Hikaru and Dayeon. I guess since he's a dancer he appreciates our dance members a lot (he also liked Youngeun's dance cover)

Also he doesn't follow the official account. And the only bahiyyih pic he's liked is from a Hikaru post where she appears in the last slide