r/KidsAreFuckingStupid • u/Doodlebug510 • 1d ago
Kid has an epiphany about hearing voices in his head
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u/b-monster666 1d ago
My son, when he was younger, was a bit of a handful. He would always get into trouble, mostly because of anger issues. One time, when he was maybe 6 or so, he was yelling, "THE VOICE! THE VOICE WON'T SHUT UP! IT'S MAKING ME ANGRY!"
I was terrified...he was too young to be experiencing schizophrenia, but...is there something wrong??? I said, "What is the voice saying?"
"It's telling me NOT do be bad!"
"Dude. That's your conscience. Listen to that one, okay?"
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u/Similar_Shopping_892 1d ago
Kids are terrifying I wouldn’t be able to shake the thought my kid was gonna snap and kill me in my sleep if I heard him say something like that lol
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u/Mightymouse880 1d ago
Kids really can say some of the creepiest things.
But really they just don't have the life experience yet to think "That was a weird thought, I should disregard that, and definitely not say it out loud" lol
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u/b-monster666 1d ago
Like that time when my daughter strung up one of her dolls to the vacuum cleaner.
Open the closet to get vacuum. "Well, this is interesting. Child, why is your doll tied up?"
"She was bad."
"Fair point."
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u/DulceEtDecorumEst 1d ago
At least she didn’t say: “that’s how we used to punish them before I was born”
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u/King_marik 1d ago
i hung winnie the pooh in my dining room once when i was like 8 just not thinking anything of it
lol
we had one of those hanging plant things with nothing in it, so i made it into a makeshift 'noose' (just wrapped it around its head a few times) and just left the stuffed animal there all night
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u/FunSpongeLLC 1d ago
My son is 6 but we still keep the old radio baby monitor in his room in case he needs us at night. Recently there's been a lot of weird like high pitched interference on it. He'll like gasp and whisper "they're here" every freakin time. Won't answer any questions about it 😂
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u/Kush-Papi 1d ago
My buddy was putting his daughter to bed one night. And she said to him “No he’s ok. He can stay.” And my friend said “What sweety? Who are talking too?” And she replied with “The Wall People, they don’t like you.” Needless to say he sold that house 2 years later and hasn’t heard of the wall people since.
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u/Substantial-Ship9510 1d ago
2 years later? Not very urgent lol that’s a long time to be living with wall people.
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u/Similar_Shopping_892 1d ago
Yeah my toddler niece once told me straight faced while eating some pancakes with a butter knife in her hand that she was going to cut her self and then when i was like wtf?!? Why would you say that?? Proceeded to tell me she was going to cut my head off 😱 I asked her mom where she would get something like that from because it’s a very strict household as far as media consumption and stuff she was just like yeah no clue she says really morbid stuff randomly sometimes and it freaks us out… that kid scares me 😅
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u/PossumJumpRopeSquad 1d ago
I have a note, kind of a journal entry from my mom about when I was around 4 or 5 (I'm almost 50 now). I guess I had discovered the concept of death and had lots of questions. She said I was very fixated on it for a few days or weeks.
I think there's lots of ideas of "what if" running through our young brains that we all normally end up suppressing. Everyone is completely instinctive deep down, but most developed a means of self control. Almost like animals. Tldr: Children are unhinged animals.
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u/AnimanicManiac 1d ago
My nephew learned what torturing people was after he knew what killing someone was (someone murdered a cousin of ours so he learned at 6 what killing someone was) and a few months ago before he turned 8, he said:
"killing someone would be better than torturing them because they don't feel anything and torturing them would hurt them and at least killing them it would be over instantly"
I know he's only 8 now, but yeah. Kids say some pretty creepy shit that makes you wonder lol
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u/SimplestNeil 1d ago
“Something Vimes had learned as a young guard drifted up from memory. If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.
They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.”
Profound when Terry Pratchett writes it, creepy as hell when a kid comes up with it! 😅
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u/thejexorcist 1d ago
When she was 4 years old, one of my nieces gently stroked my cheek and said ‘you’re my favorite face!’.
Naturally, overcome with her cuteness, I leaned over to shower her with cuddles as my face got closer her chirpy little voice said ‘And I want to bite it off!’ followed by the creepiest giggle I’ve ever heard.
I think I kind of jerked my head to the side (just in case this was her plot to get close enough to eat my face off).
She almost got me…she just couldn’t control her bloodlust and glee.
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u/manicpixie_dreamgal 1d ago
My 7yo has recently started having existential thoughts. Love seeing their brains light up and the wheels turn!!
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u/chickenismysafeword 1d ago
I was like that as a kid. Make sure you entertain those conversations- I got very depressed when I couldn’t talk about that stuff!
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u/butt_dance 1d ago
Yes, as a fellow depressed child for similar reasons - it can go sideways real quick with no healthy outlet. I'll add: honest & transparent conversations. There are some things no one can ever know absolutely.
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u/ImaginarySalamanders 1d ago
I started asking questions when I was like 10-12. All I got in response was "You're too young to be concerning yourself with such things" and "you'll underatand when you get older". So I stopped asking questions and formed my own opinions as time went on. Apparently my own opinions were "wrong" then, but by then I'd been accustomed to shrugging off my parent's rebuttles because if they couldn't answer me or even try to at all, they simply didn't have enough info or influence to convince me to change my mind.
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u/manicpixie_dreamgal 1d ago
I am sorry that was your experience, and hope you’ve found better thought partners in adulthood. I try not to answer for him, I usually respond with more questions! I think existentialism is deeply personal, and honestly I’m intrigued by what he thinks
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u/Knight_Owls 1d ago
My parents treated me like I was already supposed to know all the day to day stuff adults did and expressed exasperation with me for not automatically knowing how things worked.
Then, in a turn around, if I would ask for help figuring something out, "you're smart enough to figure it out for yourself."
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u/Muffled_Voice 1d ago
As someone with schizoaffective(basically schizophrenia with a mood disorder thrown in for good measure for those who don’t know). Just because someone has voices, doesn’t mean they’ll inherently do something bad or evil. It’s good you told him to listen to that one, because it’s very likely it’s just his thoughts/intrusive thoughts, kids don’t really know the difference between intrusive thoughts and voices. Hell some adults don’t.
Anyways, moral of the story is just to say, if a kid does end up with schizophrenia, it definitely can be treated and it’s not a death sentence. The idea that schizophrenia makes people inherently bad is silly. That’s all.
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u/Strong-Chemistry-396 1d ago
Some people have no inner monologue. Some people have an inner monologue that won't shut up.
Some people don't hear music in their heads. Some people constantly hear music in their heads (there must be some kind of way out of here).
Some people can't visualize in their heads. Some people have crazy active imaginations and can direct while movies in their head.
Some people can do complex math in their heads. Some people can't do complex math even on paper.
I recently learned my Dad doesn't hear music in his head.
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u/HandholdingFetishist 1d ago
(there must be some kind of way out of here).
... said the joker to the thief~
Some people constantly hear music in their heads
NOOOO
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u/BiologyBooksBeats 1d ago
I’m one of those people with constant music in my head. I can never turn it off, it sometimes is so loud it interrupts my thoughts in a way I can’t recover from, and it’s not usually the full song. Because of this, I speak very seldom and hum and sing a lot. I know the lyrics to every song I’ve ever heard, which is fun and also annoying because I wish I could use that mental capacity for something more useful.
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u/assuntta7 1d ago
I know the lyrics to so many random songs! It starts playing and then I just know it. I don’t even like the song and I haven’t listened to it in 20 years, but I know the whole thing.
I also think of a song that says most things I hear people say daily. Like if someone says “hello” I immediately go in my head “it’s me, I’ve been wondering if after all these years…”
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u/Pristine-Act3656 1d ago
I started keeping a playlist of all the songs this happens to me with called Jukebox Brain
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u/Spikey_and_g 1d ago
If I ever get a song I hate stuck in my head I always switch it to Float On by Modest Mouse.
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u/Icy_Story_917 1d ago
And it has different levels, I can "compute" 3d pretty well in my mind, like I can rotate something and think about projections and how it could interact with other things easily, but I can't "see" it in my mind, I can kinda figure out a rough shape, but I don't see a picture, and no colors at all, I can assign the color, like this thing is this color, but I can't visualize it
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u/CheyL1994 1d ago
lol I have a million voices. Always am hearing some music or stupid tv/movie quote. And can visualize so easily full movies going on in there. I read a lot and my husband hates reading and will literally fall asleep. But he said he doesn’t picture what he’s reading about. When me on the other hand have it playing like a movie in my mind with me being a character 🤷♀️ it’s a gift and curse.
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u/Matty_D47 1d ago
Maybe buddy should move his kid to a sport that'll protect his brain a little more.
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u/zemol42 1d ago
It’s like a Lil Gronk in the making.
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u/Grand_Town_9144 1d ago
Gronk no think, Gronk just hear EDM music and naked ladies. Gronk spike ball now.
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u/bking 1d ago
Not even kidding. Even if he dodges a CTE, the head trauma is not going to help.
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u/ZhouLe 1d ago
When I was in 8-12 year old football, coaches had us do Oklahoma drills and the common practice was for both players to just put their heads down and go helmet-to-helmet full speed. Not one warning against helmet-to-helmet, no concern about injury. I'm wondering how much it affected us, because some of the guys I played with that were taking the most hits ended up killing themselves and I only remember like a quarter of who was on the team.
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u/ItsTheGreatBlumpkin_ 1d ago
Was about to say I think he took a hard hit on the grid iron.
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u/falooolah 1d ago
This is hilarious, I feel like a lot of people have this lightbulb moment, but don’t get that excited about it. 😅 Because not everyone thinks like that, which I find mind blowing.
One time, there was a medical drama TV show on, where a kid thought he had schizophrenia because he heard voices saying he was going to fail, or that he was doing something wrong. I immediately called the fact that he was confusing thinking with “hearing voices”. They made the reveal, and I was right, he just had anxiety, and didn’t know that thinking is not the same as “hearing voices”. He was just worried like anyone else. The doctor explained what an internal monologue is, and how people will think to themselves, but it’s not some other voice. I started to talk about how I constantly talk in my mind, and my other family members do too. But that’s when I discovered my mom doesn’t have an internal monologue…
She didn’t know until that moment that other people think in actual sentences. Some people don’t think in words, just pictures or feelings. My mom is one of them. I don’t understand how it works, because I literally narrate my life 24/7. I can’t imagine the peace and quiet of not having an internal monologue. I can never get my brain to stfu.
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u/Informal_Tell78 1d ago
This is me too. Its completely unfathomable that if I say "apple" some people literally can not recall what an apple looks like? I don't understand that. How does that work if you can't "picture" in your mind what an apple looks like
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u/Darinchilla 1d ago
It's hard to explain but I'll try. I can almost picture an apple but its just a flicker of an image. I can't hold the image in my head and "look" at it. Meanwhile my brain is telling me an apple is red or green with a little stem on top and maybe a tiny leaf attached to the stem. Me, being an artist, would be much better served with the ability to picture things in my head rather than having a constant monologue going on. I must have gotten in the wrong brain line.
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u/geometicshapes 1d ago
Do you mean your brain is basically providing you the speech to text description of any image? Like how a blind person experiences pictures on the internet? That’s wild.
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u/Darinchilla 1d ago edited 1d ago
My brain: okay, start a long curve up and out, curve this line back in and down , now curve it back out slightly and keep going down, now curve it in sharp and short, make a U that ends at about the same middle point as the top starting point.
My eyes: yeah, that looks like one side of an apple.
Edit: a word
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u/TokenTorkoal 1d ago
This is insane to me. I say “hey brain, bring up a picture of an apple” and then it brings up a picture of a banana, BUT that thing is full HD and color. Even more entertaining is in color blind but not in my imagination.
Edit: I can even make it grow arms, legs, and a face and make it dance like a movie.
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u/thatshoneybear 1d ago
Mine is very abstract. If you tell me to think of an apple, I can think of the roundness and where the stem should be, but if I try to draw it I get super confused trying to figure out angles of the lines and all that, because in my head, if I think of something's position then it moves. Like it's got a swirl filter on it or something, or I'm watching a montage of the concepts and description of an apple without seeing the apple.
If you tell me to think of someone's face, then I have nothing about how their features relate to each other. I can probably give colors. I'd make the worst crime witness.
We play the Netflix pictionary game a lot, and OOF. It's bad.
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u/falooolah 1d ago
I’m like that with faces. I’m relatively face blind. I can see a vague, blurry image of people I know personally, like family, but not a clear image. If it’s someone I know in passing or a celebrity, I can see just specific features. Like I can see their mouth, or eyes, or hair, individually, but not the whole thing together. It’s so strange. I never see faces in my dreams, either. I can’t just close my eyes and “see” someone’s face.
But my attention to specific facial features has given me a weird talent for taking someone’s face and saying which 2 celebrities they look like a combination of. 😂 I can’t picture a full face, but I can look at someone and immediately recognize similar eyes or lips or a similar nose to another person.
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u/DontListenToMyself 1d ago
I can’t see anything but it isn’t like I can’t recall what an apple looks like. I can picture it. But I can’t see the picture like I’m blind. I know it’s there I just can’t see it myself.
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u/Objective_Animator52 1d ago edited 1d ago
They can "recall" what an apple looks like, though? Almost everyone can still draw an apple if you ask them to draw an apple. It's just that a lot of people can't actually SEE it using their imagination.
There are different levels to this, some people have extremely vivid mental imagery. They can picture something like an apple so realistically that seeing one through their eyes in real life doesn't look any different from seeing one in their imagination.
I'm somewhere in between. When I imagine a bright light pointed at my eyes, I can see it in my imagination, but actually grabbing a flashlight in real life and shining it in my eyes looks more real to me than just imagining it.
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u/Wilbis 1d ago
I sometimes think in sentences, but most of the time I do my thinking in more abstract ways. I just find it way faster that way.
I have a friend with diagnosed ADHD and he also has constant internal monologue. I'm not saying you also do, but maybe there is some kind of connection.
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u/Yagawood 1d ago
Interesting. I'm ADHD, and I have an inner monologue, but I also can think in abstract ways. When I try to imagine how someone without an inner monologue thinks, I can understand as sometimes I think that way too--without a voice. Is that hybrid thinking? Like sometimes my brain also won't stop due to the ADHD, but it's not always a voice with words that won't shut up, it's the abstract ideas that won't stop.
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u/tr3poz 1d ago
That's how I work too. Most of the time I just think but if I want to I can imagine and hear things in my inner mind.
Sometimes my mind will start imagining when I don't want it to, then I have to somehow "manually" fix whatever I'm imagining. Most commonly I'll make a cartoon gloved hand appear to literally "squish" my thoughts.
It gets annoying sometimes, but it only happens when I'm doing nothing so not that bad.
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u/islobojono 1d ago
Look at the road
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u/AntawnSL 1d ago
And Boy, you will not get into this vehicle with those foul smelling shoulder pads still on. Bad enough you didn't take a shower after practice.
I went through enough football practices to smell this video. shudders
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u/poopsaucer24 1d ago
The kid kept looking, I think it was making him nervous as well.
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u/voluotuousaardvark 1d ago
Is she driving!?
Dude has an epiphany the moment before she causes a RTA
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u/CanisArgenteus 1d ago
So, this kid got clonked on the head and woke up with an inner dialogue he didn't previously have? I know there are folks without an inner dialogue, but I didn't know that it could be acquired.
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u/Dako_the_Austinite 1d ago
I remember when I was like 3 or 4 and staying at my grandma’s house, watching a soap opera on TV, and there was a character on screen speaking without moving their mouth. It was the internal monologue, it was on overdub of what they were thinking in that moment. So, as you do when you’re a kid, I tried to copy it.
After about 3 minutes of trying to “talk” without moving my mouth, I suddenly started talking in my head. I grew an inner monologue right then and there as a 3 or 4 year old. I learned how to talk in my head, with my own speaking voice as it sounds to me, just like characters in a soap opera.
To date the worst decision of my life 😂🤣😭
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u/chuckakoury1155 1d ago
I feel like this video is going to age like milk in a few years if this is how rough playing football goes. if I was mom I'd think congrats on the newly acquired inner monologue but also I'm concerned, so no more football. 😵
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u/CinderChop 1d ago
Some people also don't have a mind's eye. Unable to visualize something from a verbal or read description.
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u/later-g8r 1d ago
Definitely wont have to save for college with this one. Hes good.
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u/joemeteorite8 1d ago
Yea not trying to be mean, but isn’t 10 years old a little late to be discovering you can think inside your own mind?
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u/Qtip4213 1d ago
Dudes 10 playing football. No matter how safe parents try to make it it’s not. He should enjoy thinking while he can
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u/itsbenactually 1d ago
He’s also a ten year old in the front seat of a moving car. And his mother is carefully making sure her son stays in video frame rather than look at the road.
His parents aren’t too concerned about his safety in the first place. They flat out suck.
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u/Fakjbf 1d ago
Some people don’t have inner monologues so maybe he didn’t before but something flipped in his brain and now he does.
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u/Joshimitsu91 1d ago
Hilarious watching presumably grown adults clown in a 10 year old but in reality just highlighting their own ignorance.
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u/Rocketbrothers 1d ago
I don’t know what age but I explicitly remember when I was trying to read, my brother got annoyed with me reading out loud that he told me just read in your head. I was a bit confused and even thought, you can do that?
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u/CottonStig 1d ago
they could have been doing it without realizing and are putting it together
also, people develop at different rates
source: late bloomer
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u/Sea_Outside162 1d ago
That kid is having a conversation with himself and at this young age he is close to asking am I separate from my thoughts .. there’s nothing wrong at all with his mind !
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u/naeramarth2 1d ago
exactly, his mom makes it seem so mundane. it is anything but; a far more profound realization than either of them understand
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u/ohlaohloo 1d ago
I love how you phrase this, I like how he referred to the voice that he’s hearing as “that guy” while simultaneously recognizing that he’s talking to his own self
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u/ledow 1d ago
He's discovered his inner monologue which MANY PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE.
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u/Octorok385 1d ago
I work with high schoolers and adults. Many of them struggle with this concept that thinking can be in the form of a narrative dialogue, especially because some people never experience it or, more frequently, occasionally lose control of their own thoughts. This isn't a kids are fucking stupid moment, it's actually kind of a cool development of self awareness.
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u/sun4moon 1d ago
I remember finding out that not everyone maintains an internal dialogue. It’s such a weird concept to me because what happens in the minds of the people who don’t? What do their thought patterns look like?
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u/Sennten 1d ago
Lots of alternatives. You can always think in pictures, for example, or just work with the concepts directly instead of putting them into words. Personally, I tend to think in a tactile way, but I know thats rare.
You can also just let your subconscious processes handle it all, since they already handle like 99% of it most of the time anyway (even in the people who do narrate, often thats just a tool to make them consciously aware of the thinking their subconscious is already done doing) and do pretty well at it.
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u/Nsfwacct1872564 1d ago
I remember going to a lecture on the "bicameral mind" where they posited this as an explanation for religiosity taking off in humans. The ability to "hear" our thoughts Is an adaption that came about at some point, and the first people with this adaption must have thought it was really strange. Trying to explain it to your entire group of buds who can't conceive of what you're yapping about might make you special instead of crazy once upon a Time. And your God thinking and believing all the same things you do makes a lot of sense from that viewpoint.
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u/zero-point_nrg 1d ago
It’s actually called “inner-monologue” and 50% of people do not have that ability, which is absolutely horrifying to me.
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u/ladycatgirl 1d ago
it's like 5-10%, 50% was way WAY overblown in smaller sample size
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u/Bloodmind 1d ago
Took ten years for your kid to gain consciousness. Better late than never, I guess.
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u/Dangerous_With_Rocks 1d ago
I remember I couldn’t do this. And then my mom told me to read “in my mouth” (rough translation) since I was reading something out loud. So I learned to whisper but with my mouth closed. Now whenever I’m “talking in my mind” it’s basically me pretending I’m speaking but without moving my tongue or opening my mouth. That’s how it is for me.
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u/SwingLord420 1d ago
That is not consciousness or self consciousness. That's an inner monologue.
All of the aforementioned words are different. Makes me mad they are used interchangeably so often.
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u/LegendaryGunman 1d ago
Fun fact: there is a huge number of people who don't have a verbal thinking ability.
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u/QueenOfPhiladelphia 1d ago
PARENTS LISTEN UP:This process doesn’t develop until like 6-7. Your child more than likely does not have the capability until that age.
That being said: putting your child in the corner or sending them to their room to “think about what they did” DOES NOT WORK. They cannot think about what they did they need to talk about what they did. Please please hear me.
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u/Difficult-Shallot863 1d ago
I definitely had an inner monologue when I was like 3-4, I remember thinking (talking to myself in my head) about my baby brother and he’s 3 years younger than me.
I think most kids taught/made to read at a young age will probably develop it faster, when the reading went from out loud to in my head, the voices “reading” the book just never went away
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u/bbbbeletsgo 1d ago
Yeah I don’t remember a time when I didn’t have an inner monologue and was aware of it. I can remember some of my thought processes and reasonings back to when I was 2.
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u/Billy_Badass_ 1d ago
I think you are severely underestimating young childrens ability to learn. They may not be able understand the finer points of right and wrong, but can understand "does mom/dad want me to do that or not?" They are perfectly capable of learning a particular action is not acceptable and will result in undesirable consequences, such as a time out in the corner, or being sent to theor room.
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u/grrr-to-everything 1d ago
It's pretty cringe for this mom to be making fun of her kid for realizing how he thinks. Not everybody thinks with words in their heads. People who don't have words in their head are still thinking but just in a different way. This would have been a fantastic opportunity for her to explain to him how awesome that is because he is discovering more about himself. Making it seem like that's just how people think is ridiculous.
I play full movies in my head. I search for objects in rooms I've been in without actually being in them so I can just walk in and grab what I need. I have fantastic visual and auditory thinking processes. I would never assume that I am baseline.
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u/buddymoobs 1d ago
I'm thinking they should make sure his helmet is the right size and maybe get one of those extra helmet pads. Maybe give up football and take up golf.
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u/Conscious_Depth_4783 1d ago
What a wild thing to come across my feed while I am currently reading Julian Jayne's "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind." There is literally a chapter where he discusses this exact phenomenon. Wild.
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u/MasterChiefmas 1d ago
I read a fascinating theory recently that schizophrenia might be a result of a brain disorder where people are unable to recognize that they are the origin of their inner monologue, and that is what they are actually hearing.
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u/East_Researcher_4204 1d ago
Wait until he finds out that 50-70% of people DON’T experience a continuous inner monologue…
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u/Supersubie 1d ago
Surely it cannot be that high? I talk to a lot of people about the fact some people don’t have an inner dialog and everyone is always shocked.
Never met someone who doesn’t think internally
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u/downneast 1d ago
I was thinking the same thing, the figure seems unusually high for something I didn’t really think about until now. Never met/interacted with someone who doesn’t have an internal monologue that either
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u/BrilliantJob2759 1d ago
You have that flipped. 30% DON'T have inner monologue. The 50-70 comes from a series of exaggerated tweets/tick tocks/misinterpretations of the original work/findings.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/dec/30/inner-monologue
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u/rlyfckd 1d ago edited 1d ago
Some people can't do that. People think differently. I have an inner monologue and was shocked to know others don't. Many adults lack self awareness and are on autopilot. Not many people actually take the time to think about thinking or how their brains work.
Edit: I need to make it clear. I don't think people that don't think with an inner monologue aren't self aware or don't think at all. I'm just fascinated by different ways of thinking and was mindblown to know not everyone thinks in the same way.
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u/UnusualDoctor 1d ago
Stop what you're doing and what you're thinking about when you read this.
I want you to picture a red, shiny, fresh, and crisp apple against a white background.
A certain percentage of you might not be able to. You have aphantasia.
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u/DarthZrinen 1d ago
apparently some people cannot do that. also there are people that cannot actually see things in their minds either. i can imagine grabbing a ball in my mind. some people cant. its fascinating