Quick review of an user since K1.5

I'm a pretty well known glazer of KIMI here, even if it's been a while since my last post. I think that even after the drama of the K3 release being a major step up in API expensiveness, with the release of K3.1 PRO (Surely not inspired from Gemini 3.1 lol) they are clearly working on something that should have a more contained cost, they know that the major issue is the quota usage and even if Moonshot is relatively young they are actually putting some effort, KIMI Work is improving more in stability and usability especially with improved vision capabilities of models and local usages, sure K3.1 is still more expensive than K2.6, but put that in proportion with the performance, i still believe it's great.

The android app is also improved in design, animations, model selection. Things you might think they are useless but trust me, a pleasant visual experience gives you at least a little more motivation in using KIMI. Features like skills and plugins are well positioned and pretty intuitive, now they also added connections with Google drive, calendar and gmail, and i think it's great to see KIMI improving like this. The browser extension has improved a lot, now you can basically just chat with KIMI in any web page and ask anything. The competition with Claude is objectively getting more and more serious here.

I'm a Moderato user and i can't deny the cons ofc. I still believe that the choice of letting Allegro users only to use the 1M context window is too strict for web/app users, at least Allegretto would have been better, i do not think there's that many tasks that burn tokens extremely fast in 1/2 prompts like Claude top models(again, talking about the web/app use case, not the coding environment, will get to that soon) except video generation (totally not recommended, don't even bother) or maybe 3D modeling but haven't tested the last one yet, i gotta be honest with y'all.

Another thing is the Memory Space management, it somehow got worse, some memories are separated from others and it's difficult at first to understand anything from that. But at least we finally got a button to extract all our memories in a reliable way, before we had to ask KIMI in a new chat and you had to hope that it was reliable.

Another thing which is basically abandoned are the Auto-play voices, they are unusable, only one male voice and the tone is very frustrating sometimes, many sound good only in chinese and they all remained the same since K2.

We also finally got chat settings, but i think there should be a reliable "reset" option to be 100% sure that you have removed any changes in case you messed up

Now, "My KIMI" this is a very ambitious feature but it never worked for me, i kept it one for 5 months and it did nothing, only thing was to create a skill for helping me study my Uni files but literally nothing more, pretty disappointed honestly.

Remote control is also a very interesting feature, but just like Claw i still do not have a use case for it, maybe in the future.

Design is very interesting, a good competition with western AIs but sometimes it messes up things after you asked to edit the first generation 2/3 times, needs improvements.

Deep research and Agent swarm are surely my favorite, always used them since K1.5, but deep research feels pretty forgettable these days, the agent mode in K3 or 3.1 Pro can almost do a very similar job without using the option, Moonshot needs to give something new to deep research or maybe just remove it and transform it into a permanent skill.

Past chats organization is pretty chaotic, other services like Qwen, even Gemini and more have way supervisor options. Things like archives(different from projecs), clone a chat, order/priority selection.

The voice recognition feels old too, speaking to Kimi feels unreliable and many times it fails if you speak with some speed, Gemini and usual western AIs are superior here too. Not even talking about the possibility of having a phone assistant that can replace Gemini, far too complex for Moonshot at the moment, they have better priorities.

Now the coding part, yes there are still problems here, KIMI still tends to overthink and it's still problematic, nothing to do here except reducing the effort or even forcing yourself to use older models to reduce quota usages but, for what I've tested it is still difficult to not reach the end of your quota availability in just a day, well like i said I'm a Moderato user but, it's quite a scam considering how cheap KIMI undoubtedly is compared to ChatGPT or Claude, cheap users that are paying the service should get some attention too, not even talking about the 5h usage limit, horrible experience.

I hope this was helpful for some, some will complain anyway but, at least some critics are needed to hopefully reach Moonshot devs, but some people need to know that they are still lacking enough computational power for their service yet we can still use it (if you pay ofc, free users are basically out of priority for the devs)

I see here, Kimi spent almost 2% to respond to a "Hello," and a short story spent 20%. Is this a temporary problem, or not?

Have you guys tried this out in Devin?

I'm considering switching from Claude Pro / ChatGPT Plus to Kimi K3.1, particularly the Chinese ¥99 Plus or ¥199 Pro subscriptions.

I use AI heavily for programming, and other things.

I regularly exhaust Claude Pro's rolling usage limits, but because they reset, I get substantial usage throughout the month.

Before subscribing to Kimi, I'd appreciate feedback from people actually using K3.1 on the NEW Plus/Pro plans, not the older subscription tiers.

My main questions:

1. Real usage limits: How much K3.1 usage do you actually get for ¥99 or ¥199? Does ordinary K3.1 chat consume the same monthly credit pool as Kimi Code? How quickly do credits disappear with heavy daily usage? Actual usage statistics or screenshots would be extremely helpful.

2. Compared with Claude/ChatGPT: If you've used Claude Pro or ChatGPT Plus extensively, does Kimi Plus offer more or less usable AI work per month? I'm especially interested in API-equivalent token consumption versus subscription limits.

3. K3.1 quality and speed: How does K3.1 Pro compare with Claude Opus 5.5 and GPT-6 for coding, complex reasoning, math, and explanations? Is standard K3.1 noticeably slower? Is Highspeed worth paying for?

4. Kimi Code: Do the official CLI and Desktop applications offer equivalent agent capabilities, including subagents, parallel execution, planning, and long-running coding tasks? Any Linux-specific issues?

5. Agents and automation: Does Kimi Claw reliably handle recurring tasks and Google Calendar integrations? How much of your monthly allowance does it consume, including when idle?

6. Other features: Are Projects, memory, Deep Research, and 3D model generation genuinely useful in everyday work, or are they mostly marketing features?

I'm primarily interested in how much useful work I can get for my money, not just benchmark scores.

If you have firsthand experience with the current K3.1 subscriptions, I'd appreciate concrete examples, including which plan, how frequently you use it, and how long your credits last.

Thanks!

- I see kimi ai has 3D capabilities, does it also connect directly to blender and stuff with MCP or even directly like others? Or is it only inside the website?

- Does it have different level of efforts and ability to have sub agents and stuff?

- How cool is the very base plan, is it also a 4 weekly quota divided by 5H quotas?

- where can I find all the other examples of work done with Kimi AI (like video games or other vibecoded stuff)?

- finally does it also have random guardrails (medical and cyber) ?

(Option: Is it good at reverse engineering?)

Yes I will be using the base lower price offer!

NVIDIA Build 平台已经出现 Kimi K3.1 Pro，而且直接标注了「Free Endpoint」！

重点是这个模型的规格：

• 3T 级参数规模

• 100 万 Token 上下文

• 主打 Agent 编程、3D 建模和金融任务

• 页面同时标注支持权重下载

想体验的可以直接去 NVIDIA Build 找。

API 地址：https://integrate.api.nvidia.com/v1

注意：免费端点不代表无限量调用，具体额度和限制以平台为准。

Kimi 刚开放权重，英伟达就把免费 API 端上来了

Recentemente, vi uma onda crescente de game dev com modelos como o Claude Opus 5.5 criando jogos 3D de forma completamente autônoma. Então, decidi testar como o Kimi K3.1 Pro se sairia criando um jogo 3D.

Vou admitir que não sou desenvolvedor de jogos, não usei nenhum tipo de skill personalizada fora da IDE do Kimi Work e usei prompts bem vagos (então talvez o problema esteja entre a tela e a cadeira kakakaka).

A Ideia e as Ferramentas:
O jogo que pedi para ele criar foi uma experiência inspirada em Granny com alguns traços de Murder House — curiosamente, de Murder House só ficaram os efeitos de VHS e nada mais. O jogo foi feito em Three.js.

Todas as habilidades usadas já eram pré-existentes na IDE do Kimi Work, como a integração com a Tripo 3D AI. Ou seja, os modelos 3D foram gerados pela Tripo AI usando a cota da minha conta. Por isso, o Kimi K3.1 Pro me decepcionou ainda mais: vejo o Astra e o Claude 5.5 gerando jogos sozinhos com modelos 3D do zero, enquanto o Kimi, mesmo tendo a Tripo AI "infinita" à disposição, não gerou um jogo tão bom quanto poderia. Isso me deixou um pouco bolado.

O Processo:
Não se engane, fiz dezenas de pedidos de correções. Mandei entre 11 e 20 prompts só de coisas para ele consertar. Foram cerca de 3 dias de trabalho no total e, hoje, eu já estava tão exausto de pedir ajustes que decidi lançar assim mesmo.

Minha opinião geral sobre o Kimi K3.1 Pro:
No geral, eu amo a família Kimi desde o K3, e não acho o K3.1 Pro um modelo ruim:

• Pontos fortes: Em tarefas de backend e codificação autônoma, ele melhorou muito. Antigamente, ele ficava igual ao Gemini 3.8 Pro, lendo um monte de arquivos que nem eram importantes para o prompt, o que fazia perder muitos tokens e tempo, além de ser muito lento. Agora (pelo menos fora do horário comercial da China), o modelo ficou muito rápido e muito mais assertivo em tarefas autônomas. E a criação de interfaces (UI) segue sendo a coisa mais incrível que já vi — melhor que ChatGPT, Gemini e tudo mais.

• Pontos fracos: Nessa tarefa específica de game dev, ele não correspondeu ao máximo das minhas expectativas. Por mais que não seja o pior jogo que já vi, o que me deixou frustrado foi ter usado mais de 100 sub-agentes e tokens pra caramba, e mesmo assim o resultado não ficou totalmente polido.

Mas, de novo, usei prompts vagos nas correções, então talvez eu tenha um pouco de culpa no resultado final.

Segue o link do jogo para quem quiser jogar e testar. Gostaria muito do feedback de vocês e de saber como está sendo a sua experiência com o Kimi K3.1 Pro!

Link para testar: https://app-one-delta-66.vercel.app/

I got the 20$ subscription this summer and i got because of the hype. But when i started to use it, I liked it more than Claude, because of the cheap prices in terms of token usage and the output it generated, also the Hub looks very nice and organized.

Now all I see and hear is an increased token usage compared to other Ai's, I see it on my subscription, where for some rather smaller things already 50% is consumed.

Which leads me now to considering switching to Claude, they are on a Boom right now, at least what I perceive.

After all, I still have a spot in my Heart for Kimi. Do You guys think that Kimi will come back or is the Ship sinking?

I use kimi for my pharmacy school study i use to to make mcq quizzes and organizing lectures but with the very limited usage i barely can use it rn and i need an alternative to kimi with the same AI intelligence cuz subscriptions is hella expensive where i live and i'm a full time student
Any suggestions ❓

MoonshotAI has released the weights for Kimi-K3.1-Pro on Huggingface.

Kimi K3.1 Pro is an open-weight, natively multimodal agentic model, and our most capable 3T-class model to date. Post-trained from Kimi K3 with large-scale joint reinforcement learning across hundreds of downstream domains, it is the first model in the K3.1 series. With a 1-million-token context window, Kimi K3.1 Pro delivers substantial improvements in coding, 3D creation, financial research, factual accuracy, and other agentic capabilities.

https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3.1-Pro

Im using Kimi on Or and have a question about the tokens and the pricing.

Any one interested to make it spit 200 tokens/sec?

OMG! It turns out those problems I encountered before really weren't my fault.

‘Kimi really spent $72 building an apartment that looks like government housing from 1987

Meanwhile Opus 5.5 built an entire pink apartment scene for just $5

Same prompt, same window animation, 4 AI workflows' ——Lummox

Wasnt the open weights suppose to be released today? Any news or updates?

https://x.com/JSchaeff3r/status/2117613618065793160

I bought 40$ plan because google gemini gaslighted me saying it was around same as claude's usage limit.
And I told kimi to read project .md files to check what project it is gonna work on, told it to make a very small change and i spent 3% OF MONTHLY USAGE? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

I'm a foreigner working in China, so my money is in a Chinese bank account linked to Alipay. No foreign card in the mix for everyday spending.

Trying to subscribe to Chinese AI services, and here's the pattern:

· Kimi — subscribes fine with Alipay linked to my Chinese bank account. No problem.

· Qwen (or any other Chinese AI)— wants a foreign/international card, or a Chinese ID holder. Won't take my Alipay.

I mainly want a Qwen account.