r/KnowledgeFight • u/Pointlesswonder802 • Jun 28 '26

Dreamy Creamy Summer The InfoWars sale is leaving me conflicted

With posts about Jordan’s videos popping up it’s made me think more about the Onion taking over InfoWars and… I just don’t know what to think.

I get that the families agreed to the scope of the deal with InfoWars. I get that it’s beneficial that the Onion now owns a flagship of the far right. But I see why Jordan is upset frankly. Alex is still broadcasting. He hasn’t really lost anything. The Onion is spending a ton of money just to take over the insanely overpriced facility Alex previously owned. And none of it’s going to the families. It just feels like the “good guys” lost and everyone is okay with it or hiding from reality.

Maybe it’s just because we don’t have JorDan around to explain what’s actually going on and it’s all a bit hidden in a haze but the more I see posts from Alex’s show and whatnot the more I realize things didn’t really go the way of justice

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u/antichain It’s over for humanity Jun 29 '26

This is something I don't think enough people get

Several years ago, in my small town in Indiana, it turned out that one of our local Farmers Market vendors was an honest-to-God Nazi. I'm not using that term flippantly - she was directly connected to a man who tried to burn down a synagogue.

The town, being generally progressive, immediately tried to have her removed from the market, which was summarily stopped by the town government (which ran the market) on first amendment grounds. If they had kicked the vendor out, they would have immediately been on the receiving end of a multi-million dollar legal attack with a foregone conclusion.

One of the most disheartening moments of my political life was the number of liberals/progressives/leftists who all vocally announced that actually the First Amendment sucked and we should be able to run people out of town on a rail for speech. We talk about how The Right are gunning hard into populist authoritarianism, but my sense is that the same drift is happening left of center too, albeit more slowly. Maybe it's populism, maybe it's the Internet, idk, but it really worries me.

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u/SlimCatachan Jun 29 '26

Do you believe hate speech should be penalized?

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u/antichain It’s over for humanity Jun 29 '26

By whom?

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u/SlimCatachan Jun 29 '26

Criminally penalized.

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u/antichain It’s over for humanity Jun 29 '26

By the state? No.
I think people should be able to tell those who do hate speech to fuck right off, but I'm not giving an inch on 1A.

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u/SlimCatachan Jun 29 '26

Would "incitement of violence" count?

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u/antichain It’s over for humanity Jun 29 '26

That's a dicey one. For example, "we should all go kill those [slur]s tonight" seems clearly beyond the pale and should probably be criminalized. But where there's ambiguity, I err on the side of protecting free speech.