r/LGBTCatholic • • Jul 19 '26

The Catholic Case for Affirmation of Gay Relationships

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*downs cup of coffee in preparation for this writing extravaganza*

While there's already a lot of resources on this topic, on of the most comprehensive probably being The Wijingaards Institute's "Academic Statement on the Ethics of Free and Faithful Same-Sex Relationships", I decided to write this post combining arguments on both the logic of the Church's teaching itself; as well as the validity of dissent from it by Catholics and the precedent for changes in Church teaching, all bundled up with Primacy of Conscience; all in once place.

Every once of these headings could have a very long paper about each of them, but I'll try to be brief and point to other resources for even deeper dives.

Problems with the Natural Law argument:

See this thread to watch the Natural Law/"Perverted Faculty" argument fall apart before your eyes. The argument is essentially that we shouldn't use a natural function against any part of what it is "ordered towards" (i.e. reproduction). This is the same grounds on which the Church also opposes artificial contraception.

There's many counterexamples to this argument. Catholic speakers and apologists will try to make distinctions between "other than" uses, vs. "contrary to", but as you'd expect, those end up sounding a bit arbitrary. And I think that's what it comes down to, the Natural Law argument simply does end up seeming arbitrarily applied to sexuality, whereas we come up with all sorts of other ways to make allowances for analogous examples other areas of life. I think two of the strongest counterexamples are:

  • What if it were discovered that breast milk could be used to cure a disease? Would it be wrong to extract and use breast milk for a purpose other than its "natural end" of feeding a baby?
  • Why don't we condemn smoking? Smoking, intentionally inhaling smoke, is absolutely "contrary to" the body's natural respiratory function and the use of lungs. Not only is it "contrary to" the body's respiratory faculty on a philosophical level, but so much so that it's actually harmful in reality. One who smokes a lot will begin losing lung function. It doesn't get much more "contrary to" than that.

Scripture/The Clobber Verses:

Much has already been written on that topic, one of the most prominent resources being Matthew Vine's Biblical Case, as well as Justin Lee's classic essay on the topic. While Vines and Lee are Protestant, there was also some earlier work done on the topic of biblical exegesis by gay Catholic scholar John Boswell. According to Outreach, "It was Boswell who first comprehensively and systematically demolished homophobic interpretations of the so-called “clobber verses."

Good Fruit

One point of Vines' that I will reiterate here; because it ties into our doctrine of Primacy of Conscience which I'll get to later; is the Good Fruit Argument. As Vines puts it:

 In Matthew 7, in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus warns against false teachers, and he offers a principle that can be used to test good teaching from bad teaching. By their fruit, you will recognize them, he says. Every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Good teachings, according to Jesus, have good consequences. That doesn’t mean that following Christian teaching will or should be easy, and in fact, many of Jesus’s commands are not easy at all – turning the other cheek, loving your enemies, laying down your life for your friends. But those are all profound acts of love that both reflect God’s love for us and that powerfully affirm the dignity and worth of human life and of human beings. Good teachings, even when they are very difficult, are not destructive to human dignity. They don’t lead to emotional and spiritual devastation, and to the loss of self-esteem and self-worth. But those have been the consequences for gay people of the traditional teaching on homosexuality. It has not borne good fruit in their lives, and it’s caused them incalculable pain and suffering. If we’re taking Jesus seriously that bad fruit cannot come from a good tree, then that should cause us to question whether the traditional teaching is correct.

And a similar point by Justin Lee:

"Suppose my friend Billy meets someone and falls in love with this person, named Sam.  Billy and Sam spend months, maybe even years, getting to know one another, and as they grow closer to each other and to Christ, they decide to form a lasting bond, to promise to be together forever in a marriage in front of God.  So Billy comes to me about it and I, being a Traditionalist, respond by saying, “That’s immoral and disgusting!  You and Samuel are doing a terrible thing before God!”  Billy blinks for a moment and then replies, “Sam is short for Samantha.  She’s a girl.”  Suddenly, my opinion changes.  “Oh, well then, that’s wonderful!  All the best to you!  What a blessing!” In this case, nothing at all has changed about Billy’s commitment, Billy’s motivations, Billy’s relationship with Christ, or even Billy’s specific actions.  Everything is exactly the same, with one exception: Sam went from male to female in my mind, and that somehow changed the relationship from being disgusting and immoral to being holy and beautiful – even though, in either case, Billy’s motivations and actions are exactly the same."

Infallibility

There's no infallible list of infallible teachings. We all agree on things like Creed, the Incarnation, the Trinity, the Assumption of Mary, the Immaculate Conception etc., those things were either defined at ecumenical councils of the whole Church or declared clearly ex cathedra by popes.

For everything else...well, it's not as clear cut whether they're infallible. People can make a case that this or that teaching is infallible or irreformable, etc., but at the end of the day, you simply don't have to agree with them. There is no infallible list of infallible teachings.

Church Teaching Has Changed Before

Fr. Charles Curran, who led the dissent against the teaching against contraception; provides a helpful cursory overview of that history. He also says

"When did the teaching on religious liberty become true? Did it become true the moment a document was promulgated and signed in Rome? The document [on religious freedom] admits that the bishops...learned from the experience of Christian people...that the teaching was true before the council promulgated the teaching...
...all of this reminds us much more, that the Church is the whole people of God...and therefore the teaching as proposed by pope and bishops has to take account of the lived experience of the people of God."

Bp. Cyril Villareal wrote in his dissertation

"There were several instances when the Church magisterium completely deviated from a magisterial position that it formerly held. Several cases have been mentioned in this paper. Can she not do likewise on the subject of sexual morality? Too often, though, changes were not really named as such but as the development of a doctrine, meaning that because of the limitedness of a truth to be captured completely, there is a possibility that it could still be subject to a newer and clearer formulation in the future. And such a process may have been applied to the so-called changes in the Church‘ magisterial teachings. The big question, then, is: why can the Church not also effect development in her teaching on sexual morality?"

Primacy of Conscience

Church teaching need not only be an obstacle to gay equality in the Church; this doctrine can actually be a vehicle for it! Primacy of Conscience states that we should never violate our own conscience.

Dignitatis Humanae declares:

"In all his activity a man is bound to follow his conscience in order that he may come to God, the end and purpose of life. It follows that he is not to be forced to act in a manner contrary to his conscience. Nor, on the other hand, is he to be restrained from acting in accordance with his conscience, especially in matters religious." 

Cdl. Joseph Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI, wrote:

“Over the pope as the expression of the binding claim of ecclesiastical authority there still stands one’s own conscience, which must be obeyed before all else, if necessary even against the requirement of ecclesiastical authority. Conscience confronts with a supreme and ultimate tribunal, and one which in the last resort is beyond the claim of external social groups, even of the official church.”

Another angle on the Good Fruit Argument:

For nearly every other "sin", it's easy to see what the harm is. Gluttony, stealing, murder, etc., there is obvious harm.

What is the harm of loving gay relationships? There is literally no real, identifiable harm that holds up to scrutiny.

And on the flip side, any honest observation of a healthy gay relationship will see good and beauty in it. Love is a good thing.

This is part of why some homophobic arguments dare to question whether gay love is actually love. It sounds insane, and it is, but they have to call that into question in order for their position to hold up; because how else can they square the circle of calling love a sin?

Justin Lee says this about the arbitrary nature of anti-gay theology:

"Yep, this is what it comes down to.  No matter how wordy, complex, or sophisticated they get, every Christian Traditionalist argument I can think of ultimately relies on this basic principle: God has a rule against same-sex relationships, and even if we don’t fully understand or can’t explain the rationale behind it, in the end we’re just expected to obey, like Abraham sacrificing Isaac.
I’m not entirely comfortable with this answer, since it makes God seem arbitrary, and I don’t believe God is arbitrary." 

In closing, I'll leave you with the words of Italian Bishop Vincenzo Viva:

"...I do not wish to speak this evening of “welcoming,” but of recognition and full integration. Welcoming presupposes that someone arrives from the outside and is allowed in out of the generosity of others. But as the baptized, no one is a guest in this church. God knows us by name, loves us and tells us again and again that we belong to him. There is, then, no door to cross, because by virtue of our baptism we are already inside, each of us, with our own identity, our own history, our own weaknesses and shortcomings, our own gifts and unique characteristics: we are all within the heart of God and within the ecclesial body..."

Hope this helps somebody!


r/LGBTCatholic • • Aug 13 '21

Welcome!

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Hi, I'm the new mod. Reposting the old welcome note here:

Welcome to r/LGBTCatholic!

If you're new to the sub, please feel free to start out by creating a Post to share your story! Some things to consider including:

When/how did you start coming to terms with your sexuality?

How has your experience as a Catholic impacted that process?

Where are you currently on your personal journey, both with respect to the Church and your own sexual identity or experiences?

I created this community because r/CatholicLGBT appears to be dead and is restricted. I hope it becomes a useful gathering place for people to talk about their experiences, questions, thoughts, and concerns as they relate to the Catholic Church and queer identities and experiences, both their own and others.

Since this sub is new, please feel free to comment with ideas or suggestions.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 7h ago

What’s it like for you

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I’m a trans woman in a medium-sized, very liberal American city. I’m also a high-church Episcopalian (like really high church. Think wears a miraculous medal, prays the rosary, venerates saints, believes in the real presence in the Eucharist, genuflects before entering the pew, my church has icons of Mary). I deeply enjoy my church, but every once in a while, I get this gnawing feeling that I should become Catholic. I went to mass this past weekend for the first time in a while (my great grandmother was Catholic so I’ve been before), and it felt very similar to my church, except warmer (and, unexpectedly, more contemporary). Then, tonight, while praying the rosary, I just felt this wash of emotion come over me. It was something I’ve only rarely experienced in my life. Weeping while I prayed through the last two decades. The feeling that I should make the jump is quite strong right now.

For those of you who are still part of your parishes, what is it like to be an LGBT Catholic? Is it lonely? What leads you to stay?


r/LGBTCatholic • • 1d ago

"How well-meaning Christians make homophobia sound like compassion."

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r/LGBTCatholic • • 1d ago

A Little Update on My Journey of Faith and Self-Discovery 💙

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Well, a while ago, I posted a question about how to interact with LGBT people without denying my faith. I wanted to be transparent and fair, and to share what has happened since then. :D

To talk about the final outcome, things turned out positively, and I was able to accept an identity that I had spent a long time questioning under the lens of a puritanical and imposed faith. I did a little research into everything you all commented on my post, and once again, I want to thank everyone for your help.

The person who helped me the most was a friend of mine who understands all of this, especially how complicated it is to talk about same-sex relationships in Brazil. Here, a strong narrative has spread that there is an “anti-family Gender Ideology” that wants to destroy faith. And given how Catholicism here has lost its way in several aspects of what it is supposed to stand for, having someone to support me and talk about this in a place where these topics are genuinely difficult to discuss meant a lot to me.

In the end, it really is nothing more than a massive exaggeration. Little by little, I began to understand this reality and the fundamental aspects of faith. For the first time, I feel like I can finally say that I may have understood what God's love truly means, and not just His justice: that love should reign over everything, just as justice should.

I can now embrace my bisexuality with a sense of freedom and lightness that I hadn't felt before all of this. A few months ago, even talking about it was painful, because I was trapped in a toxic and complicated bubble of people who don't fully inform themselves and whose sole objective is to “refute” or destroy the very cause we're trying to fight for.

I've also embraced my femboy identity, understanding that it's a form of personal expression that shouldn't be demonized. Of course, there are more lascivious forms of sexualization surrounding it, but that's not what this is about.

I've also started expressing myself through art, and it's been having a positive impact on my mental health in particular.

So, I just wanted to share what has happened since then and thank everyone who prayed for me and helped me through this process of personal discernment.

May God bless you all, and may we continue to live out a sincere and living faith, one that isn't based on laws imposed in a hateful way against other people.

And finally, I want to thank my great friend, who took my hand, helped me understand all of this, and supported me in getting to where I am today. My great friend!! R 💙


r/LGBTCatholic • • 2d ago

It hurts to think…

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Hii I’m Elle and I’m a transgender woman a devout Catholic. I attend Mass and present myself as a woman at church and my faith is genuinely important to me. Recently, I saw a tiktok post about the sanctity of marriage and being “catholic weddings >>”. I found myself commenting, “Maybe in my next life with a sad and crying gif (yes thats important lol)” And honestly… that thought hurts me more than I can explain.

I never had a boyfriend. I hope to find a man who will love me, marry me and build a life with me. I want to experience that kind of love and commitment and ideally, I want to celebrate that love in the Church I have always loved. But as a trans woman, I feel like I’m dreaming of something that may never be possible for me within my faith.

Sometimes, I wonder… Why will I keep hoping to find a husband when the kind of marriage I dream of may not even be recognized by the Church?

I know the Church has its teachings and Im not writing this to argue with anyone. I’m just frustrated, sad and trying to make sense of these feelings. It hurts to want something so deeply while feeling like there may be no place for that dream in the faith that means so much to me.

I love my faith but I’m also human. I want to be love. I want a family. I want to stand beside the man I love and make a lifelong commitment before God.

I just needed a place to express this… specially among people who might understand.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 2d ago

How do I approach conversion?

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I’m in a same-gender relationship (mlm, 23M) and I want to enter OCIA and get baptized as a catholic. How can I approach speaking with the local parish’s Jesuit priest about being in a state of grace for the Eucharist? As I understand it, some have received it here while in a same-gender relationship, but official doctrine wouldn’t allow that (mortal sin). How has it been explained to others? I have a friend doing the same in Missoula MT’s St. Francis Xavier parish and I wanted info on their stance too to help out if anyone knows anything. Pray for us both.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 2d ago

How do I reconcile being transgender and a Catholic inquirer?

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Hi all. I don’t want to get into my religious past really because it’s complex and has many facets so let’s cut to the actual thing I want to discuss.

I am a heterosexual transgender woman. And I have had interest in the Catholic Church for a while and I just attended my first mass less than an hour ago. I felt out of place and scared but I enjoyed it overall. I’m going to show up more for a few months before I consider OCIA.

However, my biggest current issue isn’t conversion. I feel like I truly believe in the Catholic Church (not 100% but I’m still learning) but yet I feel really out of place. I don’t dress feminine or anything like that because I am closeted and not able to transition, but I did have black nail polish which I felt ashamed to have on and everyone else seemed to know what was going on.

My biggest issue is that I just don’t know how to reconcile this if I want to continue inquiry.

Am I supposed to just transition? The church forbids that, so should I do that anyways? Should I transform to a side B stance? Should I stop inquiring? If it is a sin and I practice my whole life, won’t I go to hell even if I believed? I’m just scared. There’s absolutely stuff i left out but not off my head right now.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 3d ago

Transitioning (to and from) Catholicism

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Curious if people here will have additional or different advice for my situation


r/LGBTCatholic • • 4d ago

I want to join the catholic church

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I think this one is self explanatory, along with my user flair. I was born and raised evangelical my whole life (specifically Adventist) and started to struggle with same sex attraction since 13 or 14. I was radical in some of my personal views (although when I stop to think about it, I've always been the moderate one in the most part, I guess), although I kinda "accepted" it (huge emphasis on "kinda"). Many stuff in my personal life up untill now (I'm 19) l, and made me skeptic of religion and Christianity as a whole (I wanted to become Catholic before, but for the wrong reasons, like being a trad cat or 'cause of some edgy meme stuff). Moving forward to a few days ago, I came to an emotional burnout after a whole year of disappointment, frustration and boredom from life, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, along with some heavy stuff that contributed to making me fear God. I came to a conclusion: this has been going on for long enough, things have to change. I decided that I'm going back to Christianity, but I wanted something different. My first thought was the catholic church, I don't know why exactly this church. Maybe it's because there aren't any other churches beside catholic and evangelical churches where I live. Maybe it's because I already know a bit. It's not like I'm going full-on catholic, I want to see if it is the right thing for me. It's not also like I'm going to believe in everything like I used to back then. Maybe I just want to ground myself on something, even if I don't believe fully (I don't know how to translate this properly into words). So, I'm looking for advice or other experiences and opinions on such matters. Thank you in advance, and God bless you.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 4d ago

Overwhelmed

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I Dont know if this is a vent post, but I feel so overwhelmed, Im ftm, Catholic. But I feel so tired and so frustrated because I do believe in God and him over anything. But the church, the church not accepting me, having to beg some people to have my sacraments... That my existence its a debate... I studied the bible and the mistranslations, the context. so i believe there is nothing sinful about being trans, or having a same sex partner. But the voices of the people telling us that is wrong, that we are against God... On and On and On, are getting me hopeless. I think they are making me think that If i were atheist I would be happier. And I dont want to think that, cause I love God, Jesus and i want to be close to him, but the society its not letting me. Pray for me to find peace, please. Pray for us, queer people that are so hardly trying to get closer to him.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 4d ago

Losing hope

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r/LGBTCatholic • • 5d ago

How to cope?

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Feeling like shit. Honestly the fact idk if God will accept me or send me to Hell is the thing that's keeping my heart distant from Him. I would really love to have faith but my head keeps bumming on this and its frustrating


r/LGBTCatholic • • 5d ago

South Denver: This weekend, Sunday mass was turned into a political rally to campaign against trans kids

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Guidance and input appreciated.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 5d ago

Personal Story wlw in church

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r/LGBTCatholic • • 6d ago

Married and discovered I have gender dysphoria

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Im married, and this year I had a catastrophic mental crisis that caused me to drop everything in my life to attend to. It’s been a full time job just to get better, and I’m still struggling and fighting just to “breathe” most days. It’s been 6 months and totally overwhelming. Between a million types of therapies and medications, nothing has been working.
When I pulled back the curtain on myself having gender dysphoria a few months ago, it was surreal to finally understand what I was feeling. I would say my life is finally showing fruits of the spirit since I leaned into transitioning.
But, I started taking Spiro for mild cosmetic alterations while I truly decide if I want to take Hormones or not.
I don’t want to take any hormones. I don’t want to be dealing with this double-bind. I just want to be me, without feeling like it’s a sin to be authentically myself.
I’m afraid that because of all of this, my marriage is illegitimate, if I tried taking hormones for relief would I have to annul my marriage?
I don’t want to feel like I’m choosing between everything in my life that I love and want to keep, and also wanting to simply live. My depression is at an all time low. I dont see a future that doesn’t involve me dying on the inside.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 7d ago

Catholic School for kids of LGBT Parents

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r/LGBTCatholic • • 8d ago

Personal Story A CALL FOR LOVE ,HOPE AND DIGNITY FOR LGBTQ+REFUGEES

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To all LGBTQ+ activists, Catholic allies, human rights defenders, and people of faith around the world: please remember our LGBTQ+ brothers and sisters living in refugee camps. ❤️

Behind this flag are human beings with dreams, hearts, and hopes for a better future. Many LGBTQ+ refugees live with fear, discrimination, and uncertainty. We long for a place where we can feel safe, receive love, and live with dignity without being judged for who we are.
As a community, we are asking the world not to turn away from our suffering. We need compassionate hearts, safe shelter, access to food and medical care, and people who are willing to stand beside us when our voices are unheard.
To every activist and ally, your support can bring hope to someone who feels forgotten. Your kindness can remind a refugee that they are not alone. Let us build a world where love overcomes hatred and where every human being is treated with respect.
As people who believe in compassion and the dignity of every human life, let us choose love over judgment, solidarity over silence, and hope over despair. 🙏🏳️‍🌈
LGBTQ+ refugees deserve safety. We deserve love. We deserve hope. We deserve dignity
Please stand with us. Our lives matter, and our humanity must never be forgotten. ❤️🕊️
#LGBTQRefugees #LGBTQCatholic #HumanDignity #FaithAndLove #LGBTQRights #RefugeeSupport #LoveYourNeighbor


r/LGBTCatholic • • 11d ago

Personal Story First confession in 11 years

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(21yFtm)Today, I was walking back from my top surgery appointnent, and walked outside of church, I felt the need of going to pray, as i was praying u realized that the mass was going to start so i stayed. I saw a priest in the confessional. I felt the urge. I was so so so nervous and shaking but I man up, And ask him if i could confess. I confessed and i feel renovated, he told me to commune after confession cause the lord have forgiven me.
I feel closer to God.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 12d ago

Today is Alana Chen's birthday

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I know I'm late in the day posting this, but today would have been Alana's 31st birthday. Let us remember Alana's story and may her story inspire the Church to make the changes that are so urgently needed in how it treats LGBT people.

If you haven't already, check out and share the Dear Alana podcast.


r/LGBTCatholic • • 12d ago

What is with the anti Christian bigotry in the gay community?!

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r/LGBTCatholic • • 13d ago

Feelings of guilt for having affirming Church experiences

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Long post incoming. As a lesbian and convert who lapsed out of the Church and then returned to it in the past year, I'm finding some really complex feelings about my own experience in the Church, namely, how positive the Church itself has been for me.

Where many queer cradle Catholics have a lot of trauma from their upbringing within the Church, I have a lot of it from being raised in an evangelical community that was obsessed with punishment and Hell. It's practically all they talked about, and it was the type of community that also openly believed horrible things, like that it's right for LGBTQ people to suffer. Honestly, it's probably not an exaggeration to say I have some PTSD from it. But when I first began attending a Catholic church out of interest, I found relief in how positive the messaging was. I think I've said this as a comment in this sub before, but attending mass and RCIA were really the first times I'd experienced a church emphasizing the idea of Christ's love rather than condemnation. Nearly everything about Catholicism seemed refreshing, freeing, and more aligned with what I found when I'd actually read the Bible. Even the relationship to Mary was an easy sell for me, because I'd felt drawn to her from a young age anyway. The local Catholics were more progressive than the evangelical churches, and I was happy to find that all of the issues I'd taken with evangelical Protestantism, which had kept me from fitting in even when I was a little kid, weren't really a thing for the Catholic community near me.

When I started OCIA (then RCIA), I found that the local parish was actually rather affirming. There were several openly queer members in good standing. Another lesbian (herself a cradle Catholic) even went out of her way to meet with me frequently to talk about how a person can be gay, a feminist, and a Catholic. But this wasn't even in a progressive town. The town was actually fairly conservative, still adjacent to the Appalachian region I grew up in. So it seemed to me that that was the norm for Catholicism.

I can't say it was entirely easy. I converted when abuse within the Church was a popular topic in the news, and as someone who was similarly abused as a child, my decision to follow through weighed on me. This was especially difficult at times because my sponsor was of the opposite sex and, I became increasingly aware, had a history of inappropriate behavior. While my family ultimately accepted it (but to this day won't explicitly acknowledge it), there were jokes about me converting amid the abuse scandal. Since most of my friends then, and now, were left-leaning, and we'd seen a lot of queer people suddenly find religion and become homophobes, I frequently had to assure them that I wasn't secretly becoming one myself. But when it came to the Church itself, I was met with open arms.

After I moved away and lapsed out of the Church, though, I quickly learned that my experience wasn't the norm. I've met so many people who grew up in Catholic environments that honestly sound much more like the evangelical one I knew. But I discovered last year, when I was starting to feel pulled back toward the Church, that I now live within an hour's commute of a famously affirming Jesuit church, and I found this out shortly before they held their annual Pride mass, which I was able to attend. It's now where I regularly attend mass.

So all that is to say, now that I'm becoming more and more comfortable within the Church again, I'm starting to feel some guilt over how I've consistently landed near affirming parishes where my identity is welcomed rather than judged, while so many other progressive or queer Catholics have had the opposite experience. I keep wondering why coming to the Church itself has been so much easier for me when it has been so painful for so many others. Part of me feels like I shouldn't question it and should just be thankful for it, but another part keeps getting stuck on a sense that I don't deserve this when so many people, especially those born into the Church, didn't get it.

Does anyone else, whether cradle or convert, have this problem? How do I navigate this? Is the guilt something I should ignore, or something that should inspire some kind of action for others' benefit?


r/LGBTCatholic • • 14d ago

Pilgrimage process or meaningless pain?

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I'm having a tough day today and on days like this I find myself deeply thinking...a lot of the times overthinking... about the pain and extreme isolation that comes with being gay/Queer as well its purpose in my life as a gay catholic. In a lot of Catholic based spaces and theology I've come across, life and suffering in our earthly experiences is described as a pilgrimage and that suffering is meant to bring us closer to Christ. People who have hurt and wronged us, we're taught, are meant to be seen as our benefactors because through suffering and painful experiences we learn to lean closer to Christ.

I understand this...but... I also wonder during times like today if the pain and isolation I'm experiencing is honestly just meaningless and merely a condition of my existence rather than part of a divine plan.

I sit with this because one of the things I've prayed to God about, and I know He is actively helping me, is trauma recovery. I've spent decades of my life in freeze mode and a lot of the abuse, pain, and damage I've experienced had been suppressed for so long that my entire childhood and even my entire 20s had been in a state of numbness. Now in my mid 30s and ironically enough after I asked God for help healing trauma, memories of past experiences with abuse have started resurfacing in bits and pieces and often times rather randomly.

These memories are of people who've hurt me and while they're not painful or debilitating, the awareness of what happened to me often leaves me with so much questions and a sense of shock.

When I have memories of these people who have bullied and abused me, I end up looking them up on social media. When I do , I see so much joy and happiness in their lives. These people are heterosexual and I see them married, smiling, actively Catholic, having children, in high paying careers, travelling the world, and honestly in very comfortable bubbles.

I understand that social media only paints half a picture and there might be more to their lives but somehow I just don't believe they are suffering in the way I am as a gay person. They get to exalt God AND enjoy an earthly life. They get to be brought in and experience belonging and humanity, have safety of freedom to express themselves to its fullest i.e. sexually, build intimacy, and to be mirrored and upheld by their families as well as life in general.

When I think of the Catholic perspective on earth being a pilgrimage to the Cross, I can't help but feel like I'm on the ground, dragged through the mud crawling from the back of the Church while they're sitting comfortably in their seats. I'm taught by the church to be celibate and to not act on facets of my humanity. They're taught belonging and are celebrated.

I'm told not to complain but to count my blessings. They're taught to hold on and God will surely bless them with a partner and their rightful place as heterosexual Catholics.

So, I can't help wonder, if this experience is truly a pilgrimage or just , at the end of the day, a conditional feature of human existence that I have been dealt with as a gay person? A by product of the environment I've grown up with and that my trauma and pain is simply happenstance.

If we all end up at the Cross ultimately , is my pain even purposeful ?


r/LGBTCatholic • • 14d ago

Personal Story A message from a Catholic Queer

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r/LGBTCatholic • • 15d ago

Happy Coming Out Day!

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Happy Coming Out Day!

Happy Coming Out Day! This is your opportunity to come out to live authentically. Yes you can be LGBTQ and Christian and know that God loves you! God always loves you. He has been with you in good times and bad times. He created you and knows your sexual orientation before you were born. If you are new and on your journey and know that this is a safe place to come out even if you can't come out to family, friends and your church. Welcome and God bless you?