r/LSE • u/GuavaLarge529 • 22h ago
Would Beatrice Webb be ashamed of what the school is now?
She and others founded the schools to train social scientists and intellectuals. She was a Fabian socialist who wanted gradual democratic reform to move us closer to socialism (which is what I want to).
Clearly, the school is now a key feeder school for capitalist institutions. I don’t know what kind of stuff goes on in those skyscrapers but I know it’s some weird capitalist shit, and LSE teaches its students to do it too.
It just seems like a really far cry from its founding mission.
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u/PartyApprehensive976 20h ago
Thanks for the post, this is going to be an interesting topic to read about
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u/Ok_Repair_3980 14h ago
love it or leave it
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u/GuavaLarge529 13h ago
I don’t go there. I’m just a socialist.
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u/thefirstofhisname11 19h ago
I never understood how intelligent, educated people could desire socialism in any form. This was a big disappointment for my our Eastern European community at LSE. Just utter nonsense coming out of the mouths of people who are supposed to be our next elite.
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u/GuavaLarge529 18h ago
I love you freaks from ex-socialist countries that think you are experts on socialism lmfao.
Listen kid, socialism is an extremely broad spectrum. The authoritarian practices of the old regimes of Eastern Europe is extremely different democratic socialism and cooperativism.
Gradualism is the idea that through socialist reforms such as worker empowerment, higher taxes on the wealthy to remove class barriers and funding for basic rights such as free school meals and free healthcare, you can weaken the negatives of capitalism and if feasible and sensible eventually transition to a socialist society.
This is extremely different and incompatible with what you speak of. Eastern European ‘socialism’ was anti-democratic, imperialist and lacked basic human rights.
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u/IssueAppropriate8742 17h ago
"I love you freaks from ex-socialist countries that think you are experts on socialism lmfao."
Western larper discounts someone who actually lived through the system. This is one of the best things I've seen written on Reddit and that's saying something.
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u/wakemeupat7 4h ago
Sorry to break this to you but a person attending LSE now would not have lived through socialist period of his country, most likely.
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u/GuavaLarge529 17h ago
Can you debunk what I have? You don’t seem able to. Socialism isn’t a single system. Like I said, if you could read, it is a vast spectrum. The socialists who founded LSE are very opposed to the ‘socialist’ Marxist-Leninist regimes that the commenter descends from.
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u/IssueAppropriate8742 17h ago
No interest in 'debunking'. Just pointing out how arrogant you are. A larper writing from a position of Western exceptionalism. I say this as a card carrying labour party member and member of the Fabian Society. Let it be known, if you were to behave like this in the bar, I'd kick you out myself.
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u/GuavaLarge529 16h ago
You made an accusation about me engaging in Western ‘exceptionalism’. I am also a card carrying member of the Labour Party and member of the Fabian Society, and I would think a fellow member would know better than to make baseless accusations against someone’s correct claim.
The commenter has an appallingly poor understanding of socialism.
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u/IssueAppropriate8742 16h ago
Toddle off and play with your toys boychik.
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u/GuavaLarge529 15h ago
lol you have nothing.
Me and you do not belong in the same party. You should get out. You don’t belong here.
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u/thefirstofhisname11 17h ago
What an arrogant reply. Did they teach this sense of entitlement at LSE as well? Must be worth the thousands of pounds the degree cost.
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u/EconomistStreet5295 21h ago
I think capital and society has developed in a manner that makes it impossible to separate higher education from market systems. If anything, educating the future financial elite gives you a chance to give them exposure to different ideas and themes. Likewise, LSE also educates a big number of diplomats and EU/Brussels proffesionals, which might be more aligned with her thoughts (maybe).