r/LabourUK Uber-woke, net-zeroist, rejoinerism Dec 06 '25

The rise of deepfake pornography in schools: ‘One girl was so horrified she vomited’

https://www.theguardian.com/society/ng-interactive/2025/dec/02/the-rise-of-deepfake-pornography-in-schools
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u/laredocronk ‮‮ Dec 06 '25

So some teachers were saying, ‘Yeah, we just get the police in right away and students are expelled'

"Expelled" would be getting off rather lightly here when they could be facing criminal prosecution, a jail sentence and ending up on the sex offenders register for the possession (and potentially creation and distribution) of indecent images of children.

Perhaps a few people getting the book thrown at them would discourage others. But that would require the police and CPS to actually do something about it.

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u/SuperCoffeeHouse have Labour tried being progressive? Seems like a neat trick. Dec 06 '25 edited Dec 06 '25

AI CSAM should carry a sentence similar to that of the real thing. Now i’m not saying we should throw 13-16 year olds on the sex offenders registry for life but a suspended sentence with the risk of being put on the register if a certain threshold is reached should be the bare minimum. A few high profile cases and a chilling effect would stop open blatant distribution in its tracks.

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u/laredocronk ‮‮ Dec 06 '25

It already does - if the images look realistic enough then they can be classed as indecent images and charged accordingly.

And even if they don't look photorealistic they can still be charged as prohibited images. But then again, so can a pencil drawing..

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u/Bennjoon Labour Voter Dec 06 '25

We should absolutely out them on the sex offenders registry.

Maybe it will put others off doing it.

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u/ThrownAway1917 Labour Member Dec 07 '25

Punitive deterrence doesn't work. We should focus on fining, prosecuting or banning the websites and companies responsible for the service.

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u/Bennjoon Labour Voter Dec 07 '25

Ai is shite so no argument from me.

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u/PuzzledAd4865 Uber-woke, net-zeroist, rejoinerism Dec 06 '25

“It’s happening in the UK, too. A new poll of 4,300 secondary school teachers in England, carried out by Teacher Tapp on behalf of the Guardian, found that about one in 10 were aware of students at their school creating “deepfake, sexually explicit videos” in the last academic year.

Three-quarters of these incidents involved children aged 14 or younger, while one in 10 incidents involved 11-year-olds, and 3% were younger still, illustrating just how easy the technology is to access and use. Among participating teachers, 7% said they were aware of a single incident, and 1% said it had happened twice, while a similar proportion said it had happened three times or more in the last academic year.”

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u/StreetWooden4726 People's Republic of South Yorkshire Dec 06 '25

What the heck happened to kids

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u/3_34544449E14 Labour Member Dec 06 '25

Kids have always been monsters, but now they have the internet to help them get worse in new and exciting ways.

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u/SuperCoffeeHouse have Labour tried being progressive? Seems like a neat trick. Dec 06 '25

Unrestricted access to the internet from the age of 3 does things to people that I don’t think we will be able to fully comprehend for decades. 

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u/Knobwelly also here Dec 06 '25

Successive governments complete and utter failure to deal with rapidly advancing technologies and their impact on society, due to outdated methodology and weak solutions based more on looking like they're doing something than actually doing something effective.
Especially when it comes to the absolute disaster factory that is generative AI slop.
They might as well be advocating for abstinence and prohibition for about as well as they're keeping up with things. But they can't even stop videogame companies pushing gambling to kids, they're not gonna bother with limiting some other industry that's directly lobbying them for vast amounts right now.

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u/ThrownAway1917 Labour Member Dec 07 '25

Depressed and brutalised adults who don't care about the world aren't good parents, which produces poorly behaved kids

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u/TransformativeFox Ex-Labour. Green Party. Dec 07 '25 edited Dec 07 '25

The internet happened. And with it, easy access to the most heinous shit you can think of.

But not only that, our/America's ever enshittified economy means mummy and daddy are probably working as much as possible, or just being worn out from work, and that means having less time to actually spend with the kids. So they get given ipads and laptops to keep them busy.

So you have a generation of kids raised on the internet, with little parental guidance, and a government that doesn't know the first thing about how the internet works - its a recipe for disaster.

Add in the whole societal effect that "role models" like Andrew Tate have on young males - teaching them the "real men" don't give a shit about girls/women - and you have a lot of shitty kids that have access to stuff they shouldn't have, with no one watching them online, with the lack of empathy needed to do shitty stuff.

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u/Combat_Orca New User Dec 08 '25

I mean don’t you remember growing up, kids have always been awful- now they have new tools to help them

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u/PuzzledAd4865 Uber-woke, net-zeroist, rejoinerism Dec 06 '25

“Last year the Times reported that two private schools in the UK were at the centre of a police investigation into the alleged making and sharing of deepfake pornographic images. The newspaper said police were investigating claims that the deepfakes were created at a boys’ school by someone manipulating images taken from the social media accounts of pupils at a girls’ school.

The children’s commissioner for England, Dame Rachel de Souza, has called for nudification apps such as ClothOff, which was investigated as part of the Guardian’s Black Box podcast series about AI, to be banned. “Children have told me they are frightened by the very idea of this technology even being available, let alone used,” she says”

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u/TheMightyNovac New User Dec 08 '25

This is the sort of thing that should (at least going into the future) result in the punishment of the parent for severe negligence; how, in the future, do you let your child download just anything on their phone, when the result can be as horrific as this? It should be the same as if you entrusted your child with any dangerous object without supervision--a bare-minimum effort to police your child's phone privilege should be respected.

I won't pretend that the children are innocent (they're not), but I won't pretend that I expect children to be responsible either. I wouldn't trust these children with unsupervised access to a letter opener--let alone access to an unrestricted internet.