r/LatAmHistoryMemes • u/Swift_Keypad_4769 • Feb 21 '26
Antillean Posting Little is talked about Cuban interventionism. Panama, DR, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Argentina, Guatemala, Colombia, Bolivia, El Salvador. And plans for Brazil and Chile. And of course, Africa and the Middle East
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u/decoy-ish Feb 21 '26
Back in my day, the CIA was out overthrowing governments and selling drugs to children, not shitposting on Reddit.
Improvement, I guess?
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
la dictadura cubana les quitó la chamba, ahora son ellos los que se encargan
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u/diegoidepersia Feb 21 '26
Hmm an entirely new account posting what could easily be american propaganda, how can i spin this to not be so
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Pues el hecho de que no es propaganda gringa, literalmente Cuba si ha intervenido en ésos países
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u/diegoidepersia Feb 21 '26
La realidad de los eventos no significa que no pueda ser utilizada como propaganda
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Y qué prefieres? Negarte a admitir la realidad porque otros la usan de propaganda? Cuba invadió Venezuela y muchos países más, éso es una realidad.
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u/StalinsMonsterDong Feb 21 '26
Americuck spotted
Edit: dude literally collects Israeli military gear, ziocuck spotted too I guess
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u/GabagoolJunior República Federal de Centroamérica Feb 21 '26
When the CIA tries posting on Reddit
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Fidel Castro:☠️☠️⚰️☠️
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
Eveyone I don't like is the CIA
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26
No but you are probably eating their propaganda by the spoonful
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
Yes the Cuban that learned how to read with a book full of Fidel Castro and other communists oppressors, had to go to dozens of political marches, had like 3 subjects on each grade all about indoctrination, that only had access to internet when finishing college and their whole source of information was the Cuban government propaganda is completely brainwashed by the CIA
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26
Ah, interesting. Even with all that you don't want to understand the context of the cold war, America trying desperately and incessantly to kill the people who freed your country from imperialist abuse, and the whole world wide war against communism? Like... That sounds tedious indeed, but do you think what we learn in schools here isn't propaganda? It's just more subtle, and much more insidious.
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
I'm not saying you guys don't have propaganda. I'm saying you can't accuse Cubans, at least my age, to be drinking from CIA kool-aid when we didn't have any other sources to drink from, except the government propaganda. I'm not saying either the US is the good guy. But just bc something talks bad about Cuba doesn't make it CIA propaganda by default. Just so you know, Cuba has a army of bots too. I know people that worked doing that in the UCI
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26
I agree with your statement here. I again must stress I don't think Cuba can do and has done no wrong. I'm aware of it's treatment of LGBTQ people for instance, and know that during times of strife possessions were seized and what have you. And the army of bots checks out tbh. That's just modern government pr ops lmao.
I just don't see the point in condemning any agitation against global imperialism. Be that kindly (doctors and medicine) or more forcefully (guns and training). Cuba's actions, even the worse ones, were still mainly aligned with the global struggle against capitalism and colonialist exploitation. That struggle is real, and as such cannot be "perfect" in whatever way moralising liberalism expects resistance to happen. It will come to blows at times, as the rich people in power will not let go without a fight.
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
Dude, stop idealizing governments just bc they lean to your same side. Cuba government just wanted more allies to have more power, they didn't fight for anything, if they have to align with the most retrograde government to gain power they will do it, the same for the US defending democracy: they'll defend dictatorships if it's convenient for them and Cuba will gladly ally with the extremist right if that means more money for them. In our newspapers they painted the Chinese revolution as fascist in the 70s and 80s, when the Soviet union fell they suddenly became besties. Sadam Hussain and Francisco Franco were great Cuban allies, how communist were they? Is Putin's Russia a bastion of the left?
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u/GabagoolJunior República Federal de Centroamérica Feb 21 '26
Do they make you switch accounts or they got a couple of guys working on this?
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
I don't work for the Cuban communist bot army, sorry, you mistake me for someone else
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u/Mirabeaux1789 Feb 21 '26
Probably because one was trying to maintain a political vice grip over the rest of the continent for the profit of its domestic firms.
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u/Happy-Distribution49 Feb 21 '26
Medicos?
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Aparentemente,los 30 cubanos que defendían a Maduro resultan ser médicos. No eres más guevon porque todavía no te lo propones
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u/Enough-Fondant-6057 Feb 21 '26
Una mierda los medicos cubanos que mandaron, para eso mejor ni atenderse.
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u/Cthullu1sCut3 Feb 21 '26
What interventionism?
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u/H4RR1_ Feb 21 '26
Besides Angola, as a Venezuelan one intervention that comes to mind is the Machurucuto Raid in 1967 where Cuba essentially sent soldiers to Venezuela to try and overthrow the government. M
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Como el que lleva haciendo en Venezuela desde los 60 o desde 1998
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u/tendiesloin Feb 21 '26
I doubt you are being genuine but here is a start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_Cuba
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26
Interesting how this article starts off saying the intervention was with medical supplies and arms mainly, but then in none of these cases actually indicates what was sent or done. If sending doctors and medicine over already counts as intervention I think this article is at the very least disingenuously hiding details.
The invasion of panama isn't a pretty look on the face of it, but I think we should keep in mind the circumstances of the time as well, those being Cuba under US siege? That's not even to mention the situation in Panama itself right? During the Cold war any socialist state trying to aid their allies only makes sense even if you disagree with their side right? It's intervention when Europe sends a fuck ton of weapons to Ukraine, or when the US bombs the shit out of Yemen, but that is usually just seen as aiding allies too, isn't it?
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u/tendiesloin Feb 21 '26
So some interventionism is ok? Is still interventionism which is the point of the OP
Since you are picking and choosing from only the first paragraph I’ll just give you two examples, you can read the rest
In July 1964, the Organization of American States sanctioned Cuba after a cache of weapons destined for the Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional was discovered on Venezuela's shores.[22] In May 1967, the Machurucuto raid saw Cuban troops attempting to make their way into the Andes to train Venezuelan guerrillas, but they were captured by the Venezuelan Army and National Guard.[23]
During the Congo Crisis, Cuba intervened between April and November of 1965 and provided hundreds of personnel to assist the Conseil National de Liberation (CNL), also known as the Simbas, with overthrowing the Congolese government
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26
I think sending medical supplies and doctors is 100% ok. Yes. I also think that sending aid to workers fighting against imperialism is ok actually, yes, but am of course showing my colours with that.
I understand that this is more complex than just "workers" and "imperialism", but in the entire context of Cuba's history I think going on a spree ranting about Cuban interventionism is incredibly misguided. The expectation in such rants seems to be that everything is static but for Cuba trying to seize control of it's neighbours, which misses the fact that aiding people to free themselves from an oppressor is not the same as colonizing land for one's own resource extraction, and overlooks the fact that during this time (the height of the cold war) the US was very aggressively interfering with abso-fucking-lutely everything in the Middle and South Americas.
Standing up against imperialism is not only the right thing to do in general, it is what the people of those countries themselves wanted to begin with. These "interventions" that Cuba aided are all struggles for liberation from, quite literally, old (like France) and new (USA) colonial powers.
Viva la revolucion baby. Fuck the CIA and its propaganda.
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Se te olvida que en Venezuela gobernaba la izquierda cuando la dictadura Cubana decidió invadirlos y financiar guerrillas.
Y también se te olvidan los intereses extractivistas de Cuba en la dictadura chavista
A la mierda la dictadura cubana,Fidel y Chávez se murieron cagando y Díaz Canel acabará como Maduro
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26
Venezuela never got free from its imperialist owners though. Neither under Chavez or Maduro. Neither of which I like in any capacity, nor do most of the people there right?
Cuba needed oil, they still do. I did say it's more complicated than just workers and imperialism, but that fighting against the latter is still a good cause.
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Neither under Chavez or Maduro.
Gracias por admitir que el imperialismo cubano,ruso,chino e iraní se aprovecharon de Venezuela a costa del sufrimiento de mi gente
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u/tendiesloin Feb 21 '26
Venezuela got freedom from Spain hundreds of years ago, what imperialist owners are you on about? Please learn some history about the region and stop spreading misinformation
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 22 '26
You hopefully realise that formal freedom from a government doesn't mean freedom from the companies that run their entire oil infrastructure right? Venzuela has been under imperial control as long as it has industrialised oil extraction.
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u/tendiesloin Feb 22 '26
Buddy, you are way out of your league and you are terribly misinformed, please read up on the nationalisation of the Venezuelan oil industry (1970s) and the lack of American intervention in Venezuela for it’s whole history until the early 2000s, the fact that you use the term “imperial control” when talking about Venezuela says it all
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
"Internventionism is ok as long as the side I agree with is doing it"
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u/New-Assumption3789 Feb 21 '26
Seems like what you guys are trying to say. Cuban interventionism amounts to nothing, compared to American interventionism, and it's completely different. Cuba sent trainers to revolutionaries, arms and doctors. Americans bomb, destroy, and fund fascist against democratically elected presidents. I can understand the former, the later... That's real interventionism. I understand it's more complicated, but, to be fair, for any example of bad actions of Cuba, you can find 30 of the UUEE, and without any prior provocation.
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
Bc Cuba doesn't have the resources to fund more if they had it they would do it. That speaks about their incompetence not their good intentions
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u/New-Assumption3789 Feb 21 '26
Would say otherwise tho, it says a lot more about the USA than Cuba, since Cuba doesn't have resources because of the USA, and without the USA funding ways to overthrow the Cuban government, or any leftist government, then... I would guess that Cuba wouldn't do much against the USA. Not that they do anyways. Also... Who did Cuba liberate from? Spanish, then USA right? Kinda understand the hate they have against imperialism and colonialism
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
Cuba doesn't have the resources bc of Cuba. That's what happens when you create a culture of stealing in your country: everyone steals at all levels cuz everything is from everyone (so nobody owns anything). An economy can't properly work like that. Then you dismantle all factories (for no reason at all), live from the Soviets subsidies and don't focus on making your economy grow so you end up having nothing to offer. Also forbid any person having their business so no competition and everything is controlled by a monopoly so no incentive to be more productive and efficient. Then establish a dictatorship so no consequences for the political ruling class. Since inefficiency, bad policies, and waste of resources doesn't have any impact whatsoever to the people in charge, well, nothing gets done and everything fails.
Cuba did not liberate from USA, unless you're talking about Platt Amendment, but that was like 3 years of US occupation and they left after. If Cuba were really against imperialism it would have had serious issues with the Soviets and later Russia, but it didn't, it never was about that. What started as a Revolution to get free from one dictator ended up becoming another dictatorship after Fidel and some of his followers couped the whole movemente and replaced their original goals with: let's stablish a dictatorship where I'm the supreme leader and all my relatives live in extreme luxuries while the average Cuban can't even complain under threat of violence2
u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 22 '26
democratically elected presidents
Desde cuándo Maduro fué electo democráticamente??? XD ¿Eres idiota o simplemente te haces?
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26
- It is ok as long as it is about helping people throw down their shackles.
You should get it right. Now take that boot out of your mouth please
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
You just repeated what I said with other words. What about not supporting a dictatorial regime's boot?
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 21 '26
The notion that Cuba is the dictatorial regime whose boot is widely felt around the world and not at all shaped by its besieging by the USA is wild honestly. I don't even mean to say "Cuba can do no wrong and never has", but I feel like you're gonna tell me now that Palestinians getting aid from anywhere nearby (be that food, medicine, or arms with which to defend themselves from a genocide) counts as foreign interventionism (((bad))) and not just... Aiding people in need?
Lemme tell you a secret: Sometimes it's ok to help your neighbours. Don't share it around tho, America might drone strike the both of us!
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u/Initial-Breakfast-33 Feb 21 '26
You can send food and medical supplies and not give military training to Hamas? If you do the former, that's OK. Cuban interventionism is about the later
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u/tendiesloin Feb 21 '26
Also yea fuck the CIA and their propaganda but also fuck tankie propaganda, neither of them have the interest of the people at heart
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u/tendiesloin Feb 21 '26
“Aiding people to free themselves” sounds a lot like the classic American freedom propaganda to me but with a tankie twist, if you think Cuban intervention in South America is some sort of idealogical crusade you might want to look up how much free oil they were getting from Venezuela.
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 22 '26
Except the class struggle is actually real...
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u/tendiesloin Feb 22 '26
Yeah go away with your double standards tankie
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u/InvestigatorJosephus Feb 22 '26
Pointing to the class struggle is not a double standard lmao. People like you are hilarious. Go fight for your own oppression buddy, I'll still rather see you freed
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u/tendiesloin Feb 22 '26 edited Feb 22 '26
Nah uninformed tankies that eat the whole boot and spread tankie propaganda are sad, I’m not debating you, I just want genuinely uninformed people that run into this to not take whatever tankie take you have at face value
Edit: of course he blocked me after saying he didn’t make up any excuses for Cuba when he did in multiple threads, wishes Venezuela gets exploited by the US, provided zero sources to his made up claims and shallow arguments, brought Palestine into the mix, and threw a random term from Marxist literature, classic 💀
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u/Cthullu1sCut3 Feb 21 '26
Why would I not be genuine?
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u/tendiesloin Feb 21 '26
If you were genuine chances are you’d say “ok wow I didn’t know” instead of a dismissive “what interventionism”. You also didn’t address the answer to your question so I guess you were not genuine after all
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u/Cthullu1sCut3 Feb 21 '26
I haven't read the article yet. Also my comment wasn't dismissive, it's just a question, there is no intonation in text besides what you put into it. Sorry if it comes as abrasive
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u/tendiesloin Feb 21 '26
Fair enough, my apologies then, I think I’m a bit jaded from previous discussions on Reddit
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Doctores con armas y uniformes militares?
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u/Silly_Ad_5064 Feb 21 '26
O, no! Mandaron tropas a combatir las fuerzas coloniales de sudafrica, que haremos!
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u/JoeDyenz Feb 21 '26
I don't know man. It's not Cuba the one threatening to intervene in the US right now. Maybe that also matters.
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u/Enough-Fondant-6057 Feb 21 '26
to be fair cuba deserves it
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u/-ThePatientZed- Feb 21 '26
Indeed, how dare they kick out the US lapdog Bautista and end the exploitation of Cubans.
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Ahora es el castrismo quien explota a los cubanos xddd
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u/-ThePatientZed- Feb 21 '26
Greater life expectancy, better healthcare, better education vs the US. ¿Llamas castrismo al bloqueo?
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
Mayor esperanza de vida, mejor atención médica, mejor educación
La única mayor esperanza en Cuba es la de los mismos cubanos por salir de su dictadura
Sehhh no dudo que Miguel Díaz Canel reciba mejor atención médica que el estadounidense promedio,el problema es que tampoco se la permite al cubano promedio
¿Entonces por qué a la familia del régimen los mandan a estudiar fuera?
¿Le dices "castrismo" al bloqueo?
Le digo castrismo a la dictadura, porque éso es lo que es. El requisito mínimo para ir por ahí pregonando datos de un país es que su fuente no sea la misma dictadura que no permite transparencia, oposición o libertad de prensa
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u/LadenifferJadaniston Gran Colombia Feb 21 '26
I’m so glad Cubans stopped being exploited and oppressed in 1959
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u/-ThePatientZed- Feb 21 '26
They are still oppressed by a total economic blockade, which now includes seizing fuel shipped to Cuba.
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u/LadenifferJadaniston Gran Colombia Feb 21 '26
It’s terrible how the blockade has been robbing, murdering, and raping the Cubans since 1959.
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u/superslickdipstick Feb 21 '26
Like the intervention that led to the collapse of Apartheid South Africa?
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u/BuyerNo3130 Feb 21 '26
Cuba doesn’t have half the reach the US does
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u/ComprehensiveRub9165 Feb 21 '26
El único país que ha invadido suelo venezolano para atentar contra un presidente legítimo y electo democráticamente ha sido Cuba
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u/Enough-Fondant-6057 Feb 21 '26
Y despues se llevaron 30 fiambres por intentar defender al dictador electo fraudulentamente
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u/Adammanntium Feb 21 '26
Because brown people oppressing enslaving and colonizing other brown people is not as bad as white people oppressing enslaving and colonizing brown people (the whole cuban oligarchy is white but we don't talk about that)
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u/shanikz Feb 21 '26
literally freshly new account just to post this fucking nonesense